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The Battle is on! My landlord now demands I remove my dish


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#41 OFFLINE   joe diamond

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 07:36 PM

I should know something soon, because I spoke with the property manager this morning after copying her in on the Email to her regional manager.


Just to be safe,

I would complain to the regional manager:

Sir,

The bitch dog you left to run your property will not stop following your orders. She constantly probes to see if I have begun to take down my dish. I insist you get her to back off until this matter is completely litigated.

Signed,

Vader


Then complain to the resident manager:

Look, I thought we could be friends but unless you stand up to that ******* of a regional manager we will never have a happy home here.

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Vader

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#42 OFFLINE   Lord Vader

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 08:24 PM

Remember one of those new residents to whom I alluded earlier who was told he couldn't put up a dish, fought back, then did put one up? Well, my property manager told me yesterday that they made him take his down and that I was the "only one with a dish remaining."

Gee, I guess in a 22-building, 440-unit complex, I feel somewhat unique, privileged even. I apparently stand alone. Nevertheless, it'll be a hot day on Hoth before I take my dish down!

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 28 April 2011 - 08:34 PM

Remember one of those new residents to whom I alluded earlier who was told he couldn't put up a dish, fought back, then did put one up? Well, my property manager told me yesterday that they made him take his down and that I was the "only one with a dish remaining."

Gee, I guess in a 22-building, 440-unit complex, I feel somewhat unique, privileged even. I apparently stand alone. Nevertheless, it'll be a hot day on Hoth before I take my dish down!


Keep it up, maybe you'll get the other residents back to their choice rather than the managers'.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 08:38 PM

I've been polite enough with these people.

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FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 08:48 PM

If you don't have any right now, I'd take some photos of your dish as it is currently installed. Both from your patio/deck and from a street view. Just in case they remove your dish while you're not at home.

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 09:08 PM

...Nevertheless, it'll be a hot day on Hoth before I take my dish down!


Quote of the day right there hahaha
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 09:34 PM

I've lived in my particular complex for 12.5 years. My current Slimline dish is on my balcony (2nd floor), not protruding over the edge and on the inside post of my balcony railing--nice and secure.

Every condo and home association is different in how far they go in permissible locations for satellite dishes, so I'm curious if you had to get permission to attach the dish to the inside post of your balcony? I know many folks have been told they could only keep the dish if they don't drill through condo property - in other words, the only way is a pole in a bucket of concrete sitting in the middle of their private use patio or balcony. Could they get you on grounds that you "damaged" their balcony post?

I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm or spirit, but just though it might be something to prepare for ...

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 10:11 PM

No, they've never mentioned its location. They've always talked about it from an all or nothing point of view.

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 28 April 2011 - 11:41 PM

A few years ago they asked me to remove it. I submitted to them the FCC's OTARD rules and they backed off (begrudgingly). Today, when visiting my leasing office for something else, I was informed that their regional manager has ordered me to remove my dish immediately. She claims that they have that right because they have a central dish that serves the whole complex. They do, but it's DISH Network (who signed an exclusivity deal with the complex), and it was enacted in 2005, 7 years after I moved and installed my dish.

Let me guess.... NFL Sunday Ticket, right?
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Posted 28 April 2011 - 11:51 PM

What about NFL ST?

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 11:00 AM

I wish you luck Vader, but have a much more general question for everyone. When did HoAs start coming into vogue? It seems everywhere has them these days, I know that me and the Mrs. were 100% agreed that we would never move to a neighborhood that had one and it made our house looking take a lot longer as they are so prevalent now.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 11:28 AM

Homeowner Associations (which doesn't apply in my case but does in my brother's in suburban Houston) are not unlike school boards of education or other elected, unpaid entities. I've always said, "You give them an unpaid, elected position of power, and these people think they're Hitlers."

Some people just love wielding power and telling others how to run their lives.

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 29 April 2011 - 11:30 AM

Most builders institute them in an effort to keep the property values of the developments high while they are finishing building out the development. Since most developments are built in stages now, the last thing the developer wants is to begin Stage 2 after Stage 1 is almost fully populated, but no one wants anything in Stage 2 since the neighborhood in Stage 1 looks awful.

While some HOA's certainly do go over the top in their restrictions, there are many out there that do a fine job of keeping the community clean looking, while allowing residents to have some sort of individuality.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 11:59 AM

we do that everyday. Its so you dont drill anymore holes in peoples roof.



Oh the Dish network idot, put his dish on the roof and bolted it there next to the chimney (so you can't see the dish from the ground), but used my bottom bracket.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 12:01 PM

Homeowner Associations (which doesn't apply in my case but does in my brother's in suburban Houston) are not unlike school boards of education or other elected, unpaid entities. I've always said, "You give them an unpaid, elected position of power, and these people think they're Hitlers.".....

I am one! I'm on the three member board that rules our condo complex. The articles, covenants and rules give me amazing power! They also require that I "maintain the value" of the real estate and buildings. Nobody wants to do it!

Couple months ago I encouraged a new owner to put up their Dish, even though I suggested the switch to DirecTV! Everybody has cable but the two of us.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 01:16 PM

I wish you luck Vader, but have a much more general question for everyone. When did HoAs start coming into vogue? It seems everywhere has them these days, I know that me and the Mrs. were 100% agreed that we would never move to a neighborhood that had one and it made our house looking take a lot longer as they are so prevalent now.


I ran into them around the Baltimore, MD - Washington D.C. in the early seventies. I got the feeling they were originally used to convert small sized MDU buildings with many low pay tenants into MDUs with larger, up scale owned units. The small units were combined, the grounds were buffed up and the units were sold. The HOA was responsible for building maintenance but the units could be bought and sold like real estate.

New construction followed when the supply of apartments was sold down.

Probably different from state to state.

The word condominium is a Latin term. The Romans had homes that shared a common wall.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 01:26 PM

I wish you luck Vader, but have a much more general question for everyone. When did HoAs start coming into vogue? It seems everywhere has them these days, I know that me and the Mrs. were 100% agreed that we would never move to a neighborhood that had one and it made our house looking take a lot longer as they are so prevalent now.


Most builders institute them in an effort to keep the property values of the developments high while they are finishing building out the development. Since most developments are built in stages now, the last thing the developer wants is to begin Stage 2 after Stage 1 is almost fully populated, but no one wants anything in Stage 2 since the neighborhood in Stage 1 looks awful.

While some HOA's certainly do go over the top in their restrictions, there are many out there that do a fine job of keeping the community clean looking, while allowing residents to have some sort of individuality.

- Merg


Exactly. It's why I made sure we built our current house in an area that had a HOA and I doubt I'll ever live somewhere without one again - unless I end up living in the country with some land.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 04:31 PM

Interesting comments, I guess me and Vader must be in the minority with disliking HoAs.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 04:40 PM

Interesting comments, I guess me and Vader must be in the minority with disliking HoAs.


I am with you, but we are in the minority. It really surprises me how many people will give up their freedom to use their property as they see fit in order to obtain a perceived benefit of increasing property values.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 05:30 PM

I am with you, but we are in the minority. It really surprises me how many people will give up their freedom to use their property as they see fit in order to obtain a perceived benefit of increasing property values.


I have owned a house in neighborhoods with and without an HOA (currently with). I can certainly make a valid argument both for and against. While my current HOA is definitely a little tough to deal with, if you don't do anything stupid, they leave you alone. I break the rules all the time (including installing my dish without submitting a drawing of its proposed location and getting permission), but I don't do anything which my neighbors would object to, so nobody ever says anything.

My HOA fees also include things that I wouldn't otherwise have, like a pool, a clubhouse, walking trails, etc.

Like I said, I can argue both sides, and do so fairly effectively.




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