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The Battle is on! My landlord now demands I remove my dish


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#81 OFFLINE   Lord Vader

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:10 AM

Just a minor update...

This morning my property manager told me she has heard "nothing" from her regional manager except that "the matter was most likely turned over to our attorneys for their review."

Possible translation: "We're trying to find a way to make you take your dish down."

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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#82 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:42 AM

Just a minor update...

This morning my property manager told me she has heard "nothing" from her regional manager except that "the matter was most likely turned over to our attorneys for their review."

Possible translation: "We're trying to find a way to make you take your dish down."


Must be a large kickback from Dish. Doesn't take too many attorney hours to severely eat into a kickback... :)

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:44 AM

Thanks for the info. So it's possible to require a permit in some cases, but this isn't one of those.

Safety issues (e.g. installing a dish on a fire escape or to close to a power line) or historical (and that requires a building/area listed in the National Historical Registry (portions of downtown Charleston SC comes to mind)).

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:58 AM

Must be a large kickback from Dish. Doesn't take too many attorney hours to severely eat into a kickback... :)


That's exactly why the OTARD rules were put into place.
Many folks myself included petitioned the FCC years ago with examples of developers providing commissions to landlords, condo and HOA's requiring subscriptions and exclusive use. That reason was cited in the original rule making.

I was a Board member at the time so had the proof of the developer agreement when the place was built.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 10:59 AM

Safety issues (e.g. installing a dish on a fire escape or to close to a power line) or historical (and that requires a building/area listed in the National Historical Registry (portions of downtown Charleston SC comes to mind)).


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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:22 PM

Don't forget, the FCC a year and a half ago or so basically said all exclusive deals for pay tv are now void in complexs like this. They can't make you choose any one provider! I don't know if that applied to apartments, or just condos. Which are you in? Is it a condo you lease? If so, that's another thing that needs to be mentioned. Their exclusive deal is also probably illegal now. I don't have the time to look it up, but one day I need to and I need to keep a link to it. I know it exists. I think it does cover rentals and apartments too, but again, not positive...

This all just wreaks. And After you win this case, and get the remodel done and your back in your place with your new lease, I'd let everyone else in the complex know about this too, and maybe the idiots in charge will put up a central Directv dish two and get over it. There is just no way their is enough of a kickback for all this hassle.. And if there is, how is dish even in business!?!?!?!?!

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:22 PM

Marquette Management is a pretty large company with properties in several states. They're headquartered near here, too, BTW.

I went to Marquette Management's web site.

At Marquette, we have only two rules when it comes to residents:
Rule No. 1: Pay all your rent on time.
Rule No. 2: Be a good neighbor.
We do not deviate from these two rules.

Maybe you should remind your manager you're doing both. :)

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:39 PM

A good (Landlord) attorney will simply tell the Landlord that they're fighting a losing cause. The only thing they can really do is nitpick the installation. If there is damage (even incredibly minor damage) they could make some sort of claim against you .. However, it seems there comes a point when it's all hot air and a waste of time.

Maybe the new manager wants the apartment you are in for someone else.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 04:52 PM

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Maybe the new manager wants the apartment you are in for someone else.


If that true, then LV life there will be badly poisoned, I'm afraid ... :(.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 07:06 PM

A little late to this partay, BUT....

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:56 PM

A wild thought came to me: Can DIRECTV help with this? I was just wondering if anyone ever called to ask DIRECTV for assistance when it comes to Condo/HOA/restrictive clauses regarding receipt of DIRECTV programming. You would think it would be a no-brainer for DIRECTV to have the legal references, OTARD regulations, FCC contact information, etc., immediately available to pass on to their customer, because it's in DIRCTV's best interest for their customer to win the battle...

(Not saying DIRECTV should represent the customer or otherwise fight on the customer's behalf against the local authority that is putting up roadblocks, just that they should have a department or special hotline available to handle situations like this to advise the customer what the customer's options are.)

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 11:31 PM

That is a good question, and one that I have pondered before. I had contacted DirecTV's corporate office in a general inquiry on this, but now I think I might do so again to see if they'd like to join the fight to show Marquette Management that having an exclusive agreement where residents are not allowed to choose DirecTV is a violation of FCC regulations, which is tantamount to being a violation of federal law.

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 01 May 2011 - 05:19 AM

I hope D*'s legal team jumps on this right after they bring Comcast Philly down to their knees.

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 07:08 AM

A wild thought came to me: Can DIRECTV help with this? I was just wondering if anyone ever called to ask DIRECTV for assistance when it comes to Condo/HOA/restrictive clauses regarding receipt of DIRECTV programming. You would think it would be a no-brainer for DIRECTV to have the legal references, OTARD regulations, FCC contact information, etc., immediately available to pass on to their customer, because it's in DIRCTV's best interest for their customer to win the battle...

(Not saying DIRECTV should represent the customer or otherwise fight on the customer's behalf against the local authority that is putting up roadblocks, just that they should have a department or special hotline available to handle situations like this to advise the customer what the customer's options are.)


Thats what the link in post #9 is for. SBCAs legal team, whom DirecTv is a member.
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 09:32 AM

When I contacted the SBCA, they basically just said, "Send a letter to the FCC."

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 01 May 2011 - 02:47 PM

I believe you have to first contact the FCC, and let them respond, before SBCA will get involved. But usually once the FCC responds to your apartment management, the whole issue will evaporate.

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 08:46 PM

I'm not going to jump the gun quite yet. If management backs down, there's no need for me to pursue this with the FCC. If management decides to stick to their guns, well, then they're in for a war, one I assure they will regret.

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 01 May 2011 - 10:13 PM

I'm not going to jump the gun quite yet. If management backs down, there's no need for me to pursue this with the FCC. If management decides to stick to their guns, well, then they're in for a war, one I assure they will regret.


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Posted 01 May 2011 - 10:13 PM

Here is the FCC rule banning exclusive agreements. May the force be with you.

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 05:34 AM

Here is the FCC rule banning exclusive agreements. May the force be with you.

Maybe Lord Vader can post this PDF file on community bulletin boards at his complex. :D




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