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HR20/21/22/23/24, H21/23/24/25 & R22 (National Release) - Issues/Discussion


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#51 OFFLINE   Smuuth

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 12:00 PM

This may have been (and likely was) unrelated to the download.

I concur, since the issue (before it resolved itself) showed on receivers which had not received the NR download as well as those that had.
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#52 OFFLINE   cypherx

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 06:41 AM

Wow I'm surprised this is making NR after all the debate on the banner and yellow button. Plus on SonicTap channels, if you have new mail, the banner is stuck on the screen instead of artist/title information.

Anyway, Doug if this is NR, why does the firmware monitor still show 459, 457, 450 and 440 for a lot of the different models?

I guess you can't force this download yet?

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:27 AM

I am getting auto drops and shuddering when playing back some recordings. Also at times I get very slow response on th guide. Dont know if there is housekeeping going on or if i should try to reboot. I got the NR ON 5/11.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:34 AM

Anyway, Doug if this is NR, why does the firmware monitor still show 459, 457, 450 and 440 for a lot of the different models?


Because it's a staggered rollout.
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#55 OFFLINE   Jeremy W

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 09:56 AM

Wow I'm surprised this is making NR after all the debate on the banner and yellow button.

I'm surprised you think DirecTV cares about our debate.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 10:13 AM

My ESPN2 is also grayed-out, but I haven't gotten the update -- so must be a separate issue. I can still tune it in just fine, so no biggie.


I've had that happen in the past-What I did was go into Sat Setup and that will reload the Ird when you enter that screen- and bring the guide color back.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 10:20 AM

The issue with channel 209 ESPN2 being greyed out seems to have fixed itself on all of my receivers. You might want to check yours now.


Fixed on mine as well. :)
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#58 OFFLINE   ATARI

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 12:16 PM

All is well with ESPN2 again. I didn't change anything on my end either.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 12:23 PM

Just forced an update. Downloaded and installed fine. Says 0x459, Tue 4/5, 2:23a. The date is the same as the last release but the release # is different. Wish I could remember it, but it had a letter in it.

Question is did it update ?
What is the correct # for the new release ?
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 12:31 PM

CC is still easily accessible via the yellow button. It will require some relearning which is likely to annoy many of you, but it's not a huge issue, IMHO.



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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:33 PM

goodbye to the yellow button and the simple, concise channel banner...

hello persistent, dysfunctional, banner clutter... :confused:
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 11:14 PM

Just forced an update. Downloaded and installed fine. Says 0x459, Tue 4/5, 2:23a. The date is the same as the last release but the release # is different. Wish I could remember it, but it had a letter in it.

Question is did it update ?
What is the correct # for the new release ?

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 11:50 PM

I'm getting audio studdering every time i change a channel. Only thing that clears it up is to pause the picture.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 10:34 PM

My star rating came back but now it is gone again.

Just mentioning it.

It will probably be there eventually.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:52 PM

You mean the tiny picture when Channel Guide or List is in use? I use it frequently, and only wish it were 50% bigger. But it's fine for talk shows, much news, standup, etc., so one can peruse the above and still be watching.

To prevent tipping off scores, pause it, silence it and just don't look at it, or change the channel to a neutral one that won't tip off scores.

Well, sure. There are times even I use it in that manner, and I also use all of your suggested workarounds. But I should not have to and they are a limited partial solution at best. If you do not choose a blank channel (and even that goes away every time you use both tuners) as soon as you delete the show you are watching, you get 5 seconds of un-mutable un-pausable video and audio from a source you never invited into your living room. Only after the delay can you pause and mute. Where is the sense in that?

You can defend the use of it as much as you like and I will never challenge that. But you may have missed my point, which is that many of us find it exceptionally annoying and feel that it should be our decision (IOW, a user pref) whether it is displayed or not rather than something we need to suffer at the arrogance of the designers.

That it should not be a user pref is impossible to defend. And just as soon as they make it a user pref, then I will stand with you to defend its continued availability to you.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:57 PM

One of my receivers seems to always lag behind the others in getting software updates. I have a couple HR20-700s and an HR21-100, and it was almost two full months before the -100 got the equivalent software that the -700 receivers got.

HR20-700 _ 0x458 _ 02/15/2011
HR21-100 _ 0x459 _ 04/07/2011

Any idea why this would be? Does it mean that this new release with the info banner updates will be really delayed on that one receiver again?

It's a rolling release; receivers are upgraded in batches over time rather than all at once to prevent a spike in calls or technical issues. Your receivers are apparently in different batches, the parameters of which probably do not change much.

But, 2 months seems like either a ridiculous amount of time, or an exaggeration.
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Posted 15 May 2011 - 04:22 PM

It's a rolling release; receivers are upgraded in batches over time rather than all at once to prevent a spike in calls or technical issues. Your receivers are apparently in different batches, the parameters of which probably do not change much.

But, 2 months seems like either a ridiculous amount of time, or an exaggeration.

It was more then 6 weeks for my HR21-100 between release and upgrade.

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 05:38 PM

Without reading through this I am gonna just post anyways. My HR20-100 now for some reason when going to "to do list" will show 2-3 shows that have already recorded and passed but will not allow me to delete them. I have to reboot to get them to disappear. Anyone else seen this?

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 07:00 PM

You can defend the use of it as much as you like and I will never challenge that. But you may have missed my point, which is that many of us find it exceptionally annoying and feel that it should be our decision (IOW, a user pref) whether it is displayed or not rather than something we need to suffer at the arrogance of the designers.

That it should not be a user pref is impossible to defend. And just as soon as they make it a user pref, then I will stand with you to defend its continued availability to you.

We deserve it. They cash our checks every month.


My suggesting some workarounds wasn't meant to indicate it couldn't be improved on, and yes, it should be our choice. But I'll also disagree that it's arrogance. We just don't know all the parameters and trade-offs for any given solution.
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Posted 15 May 2011 - 10:26 PM

Without reading through this I am gonna just post anyways. My HR20-100 now for some reason when going to "to do list" will show 2-3 shows that have already recorded and passed but will not allow me to delete them. I have to reboot to get them to disappear. Anyone else seen this?

I'm not seeing this, but I don't understand what the big deal is. :confused:

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 11:12 PM

It's a rolling release; receivers are upgraded in batches over time rather than all at once to prevent a spike in calls or technical issues. Your receivers are apparently in different batches, the parameters of which probably do not change much.

But, 2 months seems like either a ridiculous amount of time, or an exaggeration.

No exaggeration, the data I posted came directly from the System Info screen.

Another poster in this thread also revealed he/she had as lengthy a wait for their HR21-100 and Doug also posted that it's rare, but can happen.

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 11:13 PM

I'm not seeing this, but I don't understand what the big deal is. :confused:

Well, it sounds like a minor bug in that the To Do list for the other poster is now the To Do and Done list... :lol:

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 12:08 AM

One thing that bugs me is that as in the CEs, now there is no way to remove bookmarks. You can set as many as you wish, but cannot remove them.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 07:24 AM

One thing that bugs me is that as in the CEs, now there is no way to remove bookmarks. You can set as many as you wish, but cannot remove them.

It seems a strange oversight not to support removal of bookmarks, so I would guess that the next release would re-enable this. Maybe even in some enhanced way?

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 07:31 PM

I am getting auto drops and shuddering when playing back some recordings. Also at times I get very slow response on th guide. Dont know if there is housekeeping going on or if i should try to reboot. I got the NR ON 5/11.


Same here. Two HR21s that both started random ~2 second audio/video pauses after the NR.




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