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Dish Needs to Get Moving on 3D


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Poll: What is your current interest in 3D? (155 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your current interest in 3D?

  1. I own a 3DTV and am anxious for more 3D content (38 votes [24.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.36%

  2. I don't yet own a 3DTV but am planning to buy within the next 6 months (5 votes [3.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.21%

  3. I own a 3DTV but am not really interested in 3D content (18 votes [11.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.54%

  4. I don't own a 3DTV and am not planning on investing in 3D in the near future (95 votes [60.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.90%

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 04:45 PM

3D TV is a fad IMHO.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 10:45 AM

Will 3D even be around 5 years from now? Or will it have disappeared again like it has in the past?


It probably go into hyber nation again.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 11:17 PM

It probably go into hyber nation again.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 01:04 PM

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 04:56 PM

Personally, I could care less for 3DTV... I have zero desire to ever have it in my home. It makes me dizzy, you have to wear stupid glasses, you have to be in the perfect spot in front of the TV, your head has to be at the perfect angle, and it's expensive. That is too much work to watch TV.

I've been shopping for a TV, and I can tell you why the numbers of 3D sets sold are way up... that is because most manufacturers aren't making non 3D TV's anymore. They are forcing it on us. If I had an option, I would pick the equivalent 2D TV every time. Unfortunately, the only 2D TVs available are older generation panels, so if you want other advancements (blacker blacks, higher resolution during motion, contrast, etc.) you are forced to go 3D.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 05:10 PM

Personally, I could care less for 3DTV...

Don't you mean that you 'couldn't care less...' about 3D?

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 05:52 PM

Don't you mean that you 'couldn't care less...' about 3D?


That is, of course, the origin of the current phrasing. However, both work for me: "I could care less, (but to do so would be more trouble than I wish to expend, so I will care just the amount I do now, thank you very much!", the latter being the unstated portion of the plaint.)
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Posted 02 June 2011 - 10:53 PM

Don't you mean that you 'couldn't care less...' about 3D?


That one always bothers me too... but I gave up banging my head against the wall since almost no one says it the right way anymore :(

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 10:49 AM

Personally, I could care less for 3DTV... I have zero desire to ever have it in my home. It makes me dizzy, you have to wear stupid glasses, you have to be in the perfect spot in front of the TV, your head has to be at the perfect angle, and it's expensive. That is too much work to watch TV.

I've been shopping for a TV, and I can tell you why the numbers of 3D sets sold are way up... that is because most manufacturers aren't making non 3D TV's anymore. They are forcing it on us. If I had an option, I would pick the equivalent 2D TV every time. Unfortunately, the only 2D TVs available are older generation panels, so if you want other advancements (blacker blacks, higher resolution during motion, contrast, etc.) you are forced to go 3D.


My new Vizio 55" M550SV is not 3D,but it is 240Hz.:)

What fascinates me about 3D is the warnings the manufacturers are coming out with concerning 3D? looks like someone trying to cover all the bases against ligitation?.:rolleyes:

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:26 AM

Personally, I could care less for 3DTV... I have zero desire to ever have it in my home. It makes me dizzy, you have to wear stupid glasses, you have to be in the perfect spot in front of the TV, your head has to be at the perfect angle, and it's expensive. That is too much work to watch TV.

I've been shopping for a TV, and I can tell you why the numbers of 3D sets sold are way up... that is because most manufacturers aren't making non 3D TV's anymore. They are forcing it on us. If I had an option, I would pick the equivalent 2D TV every time. Unfortunately, the only 2D TVs available are older generation panels, so if you want other advancements (blacker blacks, higher resolution during motion, contrast, etc.) you are forced to go 3D.


I have one bad eye so when I buy a new TV down the road I'll have pay more for a feature I can't use.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 05:27 PM

My 82" 3DTV needs 3D channels!!!!
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:35 PM

I have one bad eye so when I buy a new TV down the road I'll have pay more for a feature I can't use.


I am sorry to hear that, but take heart in that it's cheaper to build one 65" HDTV with 3D capability than one each of with, and without. Or at least, not much more expensive. I think that premise holds true on a fair number of electronic items.
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:59 PM

My 82" 3DTV needs 3D channels!!!!


omg 82 inches! that would hurt my eyes

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 12:31 PM

I am sorry to hear that, but take heart in that it's cheaper to build one 65" HDTV with 3D capability than one each of with, and without. Or at least, not much more expensive. I think that premise holds true on a fair number of electronic items.


I live in a small house my parents left me, a 65" TV is way too big. Perhaps a 42" set would work. I've got a 37" SHARP AQUS in my living room now. Hopefully it last 5 to 6 years.

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 01:20 PM

I have a 3D TV because it had the best HD quality. I didn't even pay extra for the glasses so I don't care if Dish adds 3D programming. Maybe if I tried it, I would like it, but right now it isn't a priority for me.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 01:03 PM

According to an In-Stat report released yesterday, sales of 3D televisions are up 500% from last year.


The only reason this stat works out, is because people are simply buying a new HD TV, and it just so happens to come with 3D functionality. It's sort of like saying: "Sales of TV's with DLNA went up 500% from last year", because many new TV's simply come with that feature on board.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 01:15 PM

Sears is running a special right now giving away 3D DVD players and glasses with some 3D TVs. I would read that as sales ain't so good and they have to sweeten the pot with freebies.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 02:03 PM

Sears is running a special right now giving away 3D DVD players and glasses with some 3D TVs. I would read that as sales ain't so good and they have to sweeten the pot with freebies.


I wouldn't because just about every retailer has been doing this since 3D sets hit the market. Nothing new.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 02:16 PM

If people want 3D it's like anything else, hope you get it. But for those of us who have felt it just is not going to be relevant, here is but two of a number of recent articles that suggests it might fade.

http://www.businessi.../3d-bust-2011-5

http://www.deadline....-ticket-prices/

If it were just because of higher ticket prices that would be one thing. But as some articles are pointing out, and has been my point, 3D does not add overall to a movie as much as to just some scenes, where as HD was an easy predictable hit because it lends greatly to the overall experience on TV.
Add to all this, I don't see any real plans for 3D TV shows, save for a special here and there. As with anything, with a new development not now known, it could take off and be a hit, but right now you may be looking at the peak.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 09:44 AM

"It's unnatural!" "It will destroy the movie industry!" "One cannot appreciate the storyline like this."

These were some of the sentiments voiced by individuals who protested the arrival of sound in motion pictures. Somethings, like "talkies" come down the pike that are quite difficult to envision/apprciate.

I feel the same way, proesently, about 3D. I personally find it a bit of a distraction, and I simply am not interested in actively pursuing it. But ultimately it may find its way into the mainstream, and if that happens it will likely become a good thing.

Before that happens however, it has to be less gimmick-y. The glasses have to go!! Most folks want to come home from a hard day at work, and plunk down in front of their display with no special conditions attached. When 3D simply appears by turning on one's screen it will help that format.

Of course, at this time, there are still quality issues, regarding the compromises of detail, brightness, ghosting etc., that 3D imposes onto the image of a given display. But all of that can get cleaned up once actual 3D standards are agreed upon, and the manufacturers adhere to those precepts.

As with everything else, the marketplace will determine how successful 3D will be. But that success moment is a long way off. There are folks who come to this forum who don't have HD as yet. I have friends and family who don't have HD yet. My brother-in-law is a doctor, with quite the disposable income, and he only got HD within the last year. Same with my brother.

I don't blame any company who is apparently slow at embracing 3D. Dish is wise to step lightly towards adopting this format yet.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 01:00 PM

"It's unnatural!" "It will destroy the movie industry!" "One cannot appreciate the storyline like this."

These were some of the sentiments voiced by individuals who protested the arrival of sound in motion pictures. Somethings, like "talkies" come down the pike that are quite difficult to envision/apprciate.

I feel the same way, proesently, about 3D. I personally find it a bit of a distraction, and I simply am not interested in actively pursuing it. But ultimately it may find its way into the mainstream, and if that happens it will likely become a good thing.

Before that happens however, it has to be less gimmick-y. The glasses have to go!! Most folks want to come home from a hard day at work, and plunk down in front of their display with no special conditions attached. When 3D simply appears by turning on one's screen it will help that format.

Of course, at this time, there are still quality issues, regarding the compromises of detail, brightness, ghosting etc., that 3D imposes onto the image of a given display. But all of that can get cleaned up once actual 3D standards are agreed upon, and the manufacturers adhere to those precepts.

As with everything else, the marketplace will determine how successful 3D will be. But that success moment is a long way off. There are folks who come to this forum who don't have HD as yet. I have friends and family who don't have HD yet. My brother-in-law is a doctor, with quite the disposable income, and he only got HD within the last year. Same with my brother.

I don't blame any company who is apparently slow at embracing 3D. Dish is wise to step lightly towards adopting this format yet.

Excellent post.

On a personal note, I've said in other threads that my 2003 Pany 720p Plasma that was supposedly good for three years if I was lucky, seems to be going strong. I'm hoping that by the time it dies, assuming I haven't (died) I'll be able to get a 3D unit that offers a glasses-less, sit-anywhere-in-the-room, crystal clear 3D picture - not a 3D "experience" but as HD is no longer an HD "experience", simply part of what I expect to see from a TV picture.

Dish need not rush to 3D to make me happy.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:14 PM

What's the BFD by Dish about adding a few 3D channels? I think they can't get them and are not telling the truth.

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:21 PM

Excellent post.

On a personal note, I've said in other threads that my 2003 Pany 720p Plasma that was supposedly good for three years if I was lucky, seems to be going strong. I'm hoping that by the time it dies, assuming I haven't (died) I'll be able to get a 3D unit that offers a glasses-less, sit-anywhere-in-the-room, crystal clear 3D picture - not a 3D "experience" but as HD is no longer an HD "experience", simply part of what I expect to see from a TV picture.

Dish need not rush to 3D to make me happy.


Yeah because 3D TVs are so expensive. :D Some people on this forum buy a new one every year. Would it hurt you if there were some 3D?

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:36 PM

If people want 3D it's like anything else, hope you get it. But for those of us who have felt it just is not going to be relevant, here is but two of a number of recent articles that suggests it might fade.

http://www.businessi.../3d-bust-2011-5

http://www.deadline....-ticket-prices/

If it were just because of higher ticket prices that would be one thing. But as some articles are pointing out, and has been my point, 3D does not add overall to a movie as much as to just some scenes, where as HD was an easy predictable hit because it lends greatly to the overall experience on TV.
Add to all this, I don't see any real plans for 3D TV shows, save for a special here and there. As with anything, with a new development not now known, it could take off and be a hit, but right now you may be looking at the peak.


It does add to the experience, it makes it more lifelike. Next time you go to a play, think about if it was in 2D.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 12:02 AM

Yeah because 3D TVs are so expensive. :D Some people on this forum buy a new one every year. Would it hurt you if there were some 3D?

I like to get my money's worth. Already have 8 years on my Pany Plasma.

We also buy a new care every 10 years whether we need to or not.

What can I say?;)

If Dish gets 3D, that's great! I'm still waiting for my local PBS HD channel to be delivered by Dish.

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