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The HDMI Cable You Use


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Poll: Tell us about the HDMI cable you use with your DTV HD-DVR Receiver (454 member(s) have cast votes)

Tell us about the HDMI cable you use with your DTV HD-DVR Receiver

  1. I use a low cost HDMI cable (237 votes [52.20%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 52.20%

  2. I use a moderate cost HDMI cable (32 votes [7.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.05%

  3. I use an expensive HDMI cable (7 votes [1.54%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.54%

  4. My HDMI cable provides high quality output as compared to others I have used or seen. (91 votes [20.04%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.04%

  5. My HDMI cable provides good/adequate output as compared to others I have used or seen. (22 votes [4.85%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.85%

  6. My HDMI cable provides so so output as compared to others I have used or seen. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. What brand HDMI cable do you use? (answer in comments) (32 votes [7.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.05%

  8. Do you recommend the HDMI cable you use or some other brand? (answer in comments) (33 votes [7.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.27%

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#51 OFFLINE   ndole

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 02:45 PM

As far as shortish distances are concerned, ones and zeros are ones and zeros. I use the cheap ones. Very cheap :D
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#52 OFFLINE   spartanstew

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 05:03 PM

If I happen to need one soon, I order from Monoprice.

However, there's always deals around from various sites (i.e. 6 for $10), so I usually have some on hand.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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#53 OFFLINE   TomCat

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:36 PM

Stay away from the "better" cables. Unlike analog signals, which can be affected by the cable material's conductivity, HDMI cables transmit a binary signal. That means it's either on or it's not.

That is very true. It also means that the picture quality will be identical. If you can get the cheap cable to work, it does exactly the same job as the expensive cable.

Since the signal path is digital usually from the production house all the way past the HDMI receiver chip in your display, nothing bad (or good) can happen to the PQ (assuming no reception issues) at any point within that delivery system, which includes the HDMI cable at the customer end. That means we all get the exact same PQ all the way inside our displays. PQ can't change without a mathematical operation being performed on the binary coefficients that represent the video, which would be something that can't happen due to a hostile environment, only on purpose by equipment designed to do that (which virtually does not exist in the consumer delivery chain).

That means that there are only three places where PQ can be altered; the production arena itself, the secondary compression from the vendor, and the analog or light-engine part of the consumer's display.
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Posted 31 May 2011 - 08:31 PM

Went to Monoprice but didn't get the very cheapest ones. Since I needed 10' and 12' I spent an extra buck or two on the next larger wire (AWG) size. With twists and turns inside the cabinetry wanted to minimize the possiblity of any deterioration of the internal wires.

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 11:35 PM

Monoprice. Inexpensive is the way to go. Stay FAR away from Monster.


add one more vote... It's wire! The signal is digital! ... no black magic there... :P As long as the connectors are decent, and Monoprices are, the cable is decent. Monoprice HDMI page

For long custom runs, I've used AVCable. Good quality, materials & assembly. The price is more than Monoprice, but way less than Monster. ;)
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#56 OFFLINE   wilbur_the_goose

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 05:13 AM

but doesn't Monster use argon-coated stannus wire that provides superior performance in the digital space? Tell me it isn't so! :)

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 05:26 AM

Since I most probably will be buying one or more new HDMI cables thought it might be a good idea to poll you folks regarding the price range category, supposed quality and brand.

Please participate in this poll and followup comment segment.

Thanks!


I used the cables that came in the box. They work great.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 08:05 AM

but doesn't Monster use argon-coated stannus wire that provides superior performance in the digital space? Tell me it isn't so! :)


From Wikipedia:

"Argon is used to displace oxygen- and moisture-containing air in packaging material to extend the shelf-lives of the contents. Aerial oxidation, hydrolysis, and other chemical reactions which degrade the products are retarded or prevented entirely. Bottles of high-purity chemicals and certain pharmaceutical products are available in sealed bottles or ampoules packed in argon. In wine making, argon is used to top-off barrels to avoid the aerial oxidation of ethanol to acetic acid during the aging process."

So, if your equipment is in a very humid environment, or under water, it might make sense to pay the extra $100 per foot.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 08:41 AM

For my DirecTV NON DVR HD box...I use the HDMI cable that came in the box..and have not used anything other than that. So I do not know what brand it is no markings on it. It is a 6 foot cable

My Xbox 360 I use the Microsoft HDMI cable
http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B000UODATY

My PS3 I use a Radio Shack 10Foot HDMI
http://www.radioshac...ELAID=747645294

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My Sony Blu Ray player BDP-S580 I use same Radio Shack house brand 10 footer.

My Time Warner Cable Box (yes I have both D* and TWC) the hdmi provided by TWC is a brand called ppc --> again an HDMI i didnt buy one for it.
http://www.manifest-...-HDMI-Cable.jpg
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Ive heard all the ramblings on how Best Buy whores you to try and get their HDMI cables (monster in specific) in anything you buy, in one case they scolded me for not buying one I responded to him how Im like I'm ahead of the game so settle down there jr....

I remember once going into the store to buy a RGB cable for my mom...(she is still on a glass TV tube) since her tv actually has red/green/blu connectors and picture looks better than putting the TV to ch3. and the BBuy rep said we dont carry those they're obsolete and tried to get me to $$$get an HD screen..I'm like hmm whats that over there...found red/green/blue connectors along with older school yellow red & white...Bought that too cause I needed audio cables to go with my RGB...the sales guy looked at me like I shouldnt be buying those things im like what planet are you on..I said you should be trying to make money off me any way you can, dont deter me from buying something clearly within eyeball range...you can suggest a new product but dont outright lie when i see it hanging on the rack RIGHT there..

same thing happend once I went looking for a PC fan a 10 dollar item and rep tried to push me a whole new PC.. idiot!


I find I have absolutely no issue with picture quality on my 2 HD sets (both are Samsung 32 Inch and a 46 inch LCD non LED and non 3D) I am happy with all my cables...so Ive never gone shopping cause i believed one brand of HDMI was better than the other..

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 08:54 AM

Monoprice or Amazon HDMI cables work great.
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Posted 01 June 2011 - 11:21 AM

Yes, I was one of those fools that bought a $100 Monster cable a long time ago! Now, I just use what comes in the box, or amazon or monoprice.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 11:43 AM

I needed an HDMI right away once and bought a Sony HDMI cable from WalMart - works great.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 12:15 PM

Monoprice. Or whatever's in the box if one is supplied.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 12:27 PM

I use Monoprice HDMI cables. They are well built and cheap and they work great!

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 08:55 PM

I got my HDMI cables from firefold.com. They work great. A couple years back I cleaned up the clutter in my TV cabinet and got all new cables at just the right length. Firefold offers cables in several lengths.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 09:15 PM

I use a few $59 & $79 Monster HDMI cables.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 06:12 AM

I get mine from Amazon since I have Amazon Prime, no shipping costs. I see no difference in any of them on my twelve HRs.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 07:27 AM

Monoprice. Inexpensive is the way to go. Stay FAR away from Monster.


There isn't much diference, so the cheaper the better

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 07:04 PM

I have a $250 Monster HDMI and then my monoprice.com HDMI cable W/ net jacket and I can not tell any difference in PQ. I got the monster when I bought my TV because i was uneducated about HDMI. I will not ever pay for a monster cable again. I ran a 50' HDMI to DVI in my friends theater and there is zero issues and outstanding PQ from his projector and that cable was 40 bucks! I think you may see the trend of this thread. Monoprice is a great cable for most everyone needs. Oh and yes all my stuff has monoprice.com cables now. :)

oh and they have a bunch of other cool stuff there too!

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:48 AM

I created my own MRV long before it was available by using short Monoprice HDMI cables from each of my DVRs to a Monoprice Switch, then to a Monoprice Splitter, and long Monoprice HDMI cables to each of the 3 HDTVs in the house. The longest cable is 55 feet which is made up of a Monoprice 30 foot connected to a Monoprice 25 foot cable. Never had any problem with signal quality on any TV and I can watch any recorded show from any DVR on any TV without having to pay for MRV.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 12:24 PM

Support for brands, namely Monoprice, other than Monster has truly enlightened me. I remain curious about Monster's strategy when it comes to their HDMI competition. To this end I have send Monster support the following.

"I've been a loyal Monster customer for over 15 years. Whether it is power protection, composite, component, audio, amd HDMI I've got them all. Now that it is time to purchase a couple of new HDMI's my research, including surveying 187 other audio video enthusiast, has shocked me. I am sorry to say that by far Monster is not the HDMI of choice. Monoprice is the overwhelming choice.

It is because of my long term loyalty that I must ask why should I stay with Monster HDMI's?
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Note that I do realize asking Monster to respond to such a query is most probably sheer folly. Knowing Monster's marketing history if a reply is received it will be filled with 'whiz bang' jargon.

My only defense for spending so much on Monster HDMI's is that their quality of pre-HDMI's cables hooked me on the brand.:nono:

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 12:31 PM

Support for brands, namely Monoprice, other than Monster has truly enlightened me. As a retired Logistician I remain curious about Monster's strategy when it comes to their HDMI competition. To this end I have send Monster support the following.

"I've been a loyal Monster customer for over 15 years. Whether it is power protection, composite, component, audio, amd HDMI I've got them all. Now that it is time to purchase a couple of new HDMI's my research, including surveying 187 other audio video enthusiast, has shocked me. I am sorry to say that by far Monster is not the HDMI of choice. Monoprice is the overwhelming choice.

It is because of my long term loyalty that I must ask why should I stay with Monster HDMI's?
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Note that I do realize asking Monster to respond to such a query is most probably sheer folly. Knowing Monster's marketing history if a reply is received it will be filled with 'whiz bang' jargon.

My only defense for spending so much on Monster HDMI's is that their quality of pre-HDMI's cables hooked me on the brand.:nono:


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Posted 03 June 2011 - 12:44 PM

If you get a response, it likely would be some technical mumbo jumbo. In the past, theyve been known to have displays at Best Buy, "can you spot the Monster difference?" It was very obviously better, but what they didn't tell you was that the Monster side was HDMI, the non Monster side was RCA or svideo. Or if both displays were hdmi, the tv settings weren't the same.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 01:00 PM

If you get a response, it likely would be some technical mumbo jumbo. In the past, theyve been known to have displays at Best Buy, "can you spot the Monster difference?" It was very obviously better, but what they didn't tell you was that the Monster side was HDMI, the non Monster side was RCA or svideo. Or if both displays were hdmi, the tv settings weren't the same.


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Posted 03 June 2011 - 01:14 PM

Because they have about a 400% markup on their prices. Go with monoprice.com. They have better cables for a lower price.


I tihnk you missed a copy zeros on that percentage :lol:




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