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The HDMI Cable You Use


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Poll: Tell us about the HDMI cable you use with your DTV HD-DVR Receiver (454 member(s) have cast votes)

Tell us about the HDMI cable you use with your DTV HD-DVR Receiver

  1. I use a low cost HDMI cable (237 votes [52.20%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 52.20%

  2. I use a moderate cost HDMI cable (32 votes [7.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.05%

  3. I use an expensive HDMI cable (7 votes [1.54%] - View)

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  4. My HDMI cable provides high quality output as compared to others I have used or seen. (91 votes [20.04%] - View)

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  5. My HDMI cable provides good/adequate output as compared to others I have used or seen. (22 votes [4.85%] - View)

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  6. My HDMI cable provides so so output as compared to others I have used or seen. (0 votes [0.00%])

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  7. What brand HDMI cable do you use? (answer in comments) (32 votes [7.05%] - View)

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  8. Do you recommend the HDMI cable you use or some other brand? (answer in comments) (33 votes [7.27%] - View)

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#101 OFFLINE   Game Fan

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 02:29 PM

I've only bought HDMI cables from Monoprice. Never had an issue, either. They make good quality stuff and sell it for reasonable prices.

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#102 OFFLINE   m4p

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 06:40 PM

Mine are from Monoprice as well. Never had any issues. I just can't see paying a lot of money for something that has a name brand that is basically the same cable.

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#103 OFFLINE   hilmar2k

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 07:58 PM

It's practically impossible for there to be single-pixel errors in an HDMI signal. If the signal gets screwed up at all, it simply won't display.


Not true.

Google "HDMI sparkles".

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#104 OFFLINE   Jeremy W

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 08:11 PM

Not true.

Google "HDMI sparkles".

I was (and I thought you were) referring to a single pixel getting "stuck" as white. I'm aware of sparkles, but they occur on many different pixels.

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 08:17 PM

Cheap... 1st thing on "cheap search" on fleabay. All HDMI cables are the same
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#106 ONLINE   Laxguy

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 11:51 PM

Cheap... 1st thing on "cheap search" on fleabay. All HDMI cables are the same


Well, no, they aren't! Some are of better quality, last longer, etc.

That said, over 90% of us use cheap ones. I have several spares in case the shoddier ones break or get damaged. One of them cost ten cents when included in one of my Amazon orders. No Monster has ever graced my dwelling, though I have a couple that are "gold plated".....:rolleyes:
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#107 OFFLINE   Rich

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:49 AM

Well, no, they aren't! Some are of better quality, last longer, etc.

That said, over 90% of us use cheap ones. I have several spares in case the shoddier ones break or get damaged. One of them cost ten cents when included in one of my Amazon orders. No Monster has ever graced my dwelling, though I have a couple that are "gold plated".....:rolleyes:


Wonder what gold plating does? Gold isn't the best conductor.

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#108 OFFLINE   hilmar2k

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:52 AM

I was (and I thought you were) referring to a single pixel getting "stuck" as white. I'm aware of sparkles, but they occur on many different pixels.


I was replyinjg to this:

It's practically impossible for there to be single-pixel errors in an HDMI signal. If the signal gets screwed up at all, it simply won't display.


My point was that it isn't "all or nothing", it is quite possible for some quantity (other than "all") of the pixels to have an issue, and that if a pixel isn't perfect, it is not there.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:54 AM

Wonder what gold plating does? Gold isn't the best conductor.

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Actually, gold is one of the best conductors there is at room temperature.

Its value, however, lies in its ability to resist corrosion. You will find gold plating on circuit board edge connectors and on the pins and sockets of IC's that plug in as well as on cables used in A/V setups. The gold plating, which is only a few atoms thick, makes for pretty much worry free connections.

In general, many "standard" applications will work just fine without the need for more expensive gold-plated cable, however.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 12:13 PM

Actually, gold is one of the best conductors there is at room temperature.


Silver is a much better conductor and so is copper. I just broke out my Electrician's Handbook and verified that. There's another table hidden in the Handbook that rates a lot of materials for conductivity, but I can't find it. The table I'm looking at rates gold as the fifth best conductor behind silver and four types of copper. The difference is in the percentage of conductivity where silver is rated at 108% and gold is rated at 72%.

Its value, however, lies in its ability to resist corrosion. You will find gold plating on circuit board edge connectors and on the pins and sockets of IC's that plug in as well as on cables used in A/V setups. The gold plating, which is only a few atoms thick, makes for pretty much worry free connections.


That, I'll buy.

In general, many "standard" applications will work just fine without the need for more expensive gold-plated cable, however.


Again, I'll agree.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 12:22 PM

I think we agree, Rich. I said gold "is one of the best". The anti-corrosive properties would be the more valuable quality, especially in humid conditions for long term installations.

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#112 ONLINE   Laxguy

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:57 PM

I think we agree, Rich. I said gold "is one of the best". The anti-corrosive properties would be the more valuable quality, especially in humid conditions for long term installations.
:D


Oh, no!!! The value is being able to mention to friends and lovers that you're a gold plated kind of guy.....:lol: And I agree on the corrosion resistance, fwiw. The cables that contain gold were still under $10.00
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:22 PM

I think we agree, Rich. I said gold "is one of the best". The anti-corrosive properties would be the more valuable quality, especially in humid conditions for long term installations.

:D


I haven't looked closely enough at my own equipment, but do most have gold connectors? If both parts of the connection are gold, that would be a benefit. If the metal is mismatched, that wouldn't be good.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:32 PM

If I have one problem with Monoprice it's that their cables are sometimes too thick and heavy for certain applications and not flexible enough. It's because they are so well built.


I ordered a few of the thicker 24 ga jacketed HDMI cables from Monoprice and like you found them pretty inflexible. If you add an 8inch 28AWG Port Saver you don't need as much clearance to the rear and you can plug them in before you set the equipment on the shelf. HDMI jacks are pretty intolerant of misalignment so it really helps if you can hold both connectors instead of trying to plug in an HDMI cable blindly into the back of your equipment... $1.70 is cheap insurance compared to replacing a broken HDMI jack... :eek2:
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:48 PM

Monoprice. I have at least 10 of them here, the longest of which is 30', and cost me all of 13 bucks. Works perfectly.

As far as the cables at Wally World go, while they are much less expensive than other retail outlets, they are inferior as far as I'm concerned. Any HDMI cable without RF chokes on each end is not acceptable here, and virtually all of the cables from Monoprice have said RF chokes.

My home theater lives in a high RF environment, and also has very low noise figure radio receivers. I can't afford "bleats" and "burbles" killing the weak signals I'm looking for. (some of which are 20 dB below ambient noise conditions. Digital devices tend to be quite noisy (RF-wise). The RF chokes on the end of each cable kills the ability of the hdmi cable to act like an antenna for either receiving or transmittting.

I'm able to put the devices in the presence of a transmitter running 1000 watts output at a distance of only 30' from the transmitting antenna and have no transmitted induced interference. Similarly, I don't get any birdies from the home theater. I do get some from the associated computers in the house, which is a tougher problem (lots more chokes required) to solve.

Monoprice is a high quality cable for a very low price and there service is terrific.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 07:23 AM

I haven't looked closely enough at my own equipment, but do most have gold connectors? If both parts of the connection are gold, that would be a benefit. If the metal is mismatched, that wouldn't be good.


Not all cables but all plug in circuit boards do. Gold over copper is the best combination of conductivity and shelf life. Once the boards are installed they'll last indefinitely but sitting in the open air for years can cause intermetallics where the coating and the copper will start to leach into each other. That's why we store them in plastic bags with a dessicant. Other coatings would work but wouldn't last as long as gold.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 07:27 AM

Thanks. I was thinking back in the "old" computer days when we used SIMMs, and you had to make sure to get the right module, either with tin or gold contacts to match the motherboard.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 08:36 AM

Thanks. I was thinking back in the "old" computer days when we used SIMMs, and you had to make sure to get the right module, either with tin or gold contacts to match the motherboard.



That's right, back in the good old days.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 11:15 AM

That's right, back in the good old days.

You mean back when my IBM PC sported 64K RAM? ;)
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 01:28 PM

First computer was an Atari 400 with 8k.




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