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#26 OFFLINE   Marty711

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 04:45 PM

Per Sports Business Daily----ESPN is asking for $ .40 per month per subscriber in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana and New Mexico. No mention of what they are asking outside this area.

Also, the Longhorn Network will have 2 live exclusive UT football games this year.

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Only two football games will be a problem. In addition, they are only airing 8 men's basketball games. I'm not sure the telco companies will have a ton of interest in this. I don't know how fair it is to compare this to BTN or The Mtn. Those channels are airing top games week after week during football and basketball season. Longhorn Network won't be. It's largely re-airs, Olympic sports and magazine style shows. It might gain legs in Texas, but I really wonder if the satellite companies will have much interest in this for national carriage.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 05:25 PM

Only two football games will be a problem. In addition, they are only airing 8 men's basketball games. I'm not sure the telco companies will have a ton of interest in this. I don't know how fair it is to compare this to BTN or The Mtn. Those channels are airing top games week after week during football and basketball season. Longhorn Network won't be. It's largely re-airs, Olympic sports and magazine style shows. It might gain legs in Texas, but I really wonder if the satellite companies will have much interest in this for national carriage.


I think any provider not offering this in the state of Texas will be at a significant competitive disadvantage. This school has one of the most rabid fan bases in the country and these people will move to another provider to get this channel.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 05:32 PM

They will probably pick it up, and authorize it as a RSN for the regions mentioned above. With so many states, and the sports pack, they will have to do it as a CONUS channel. Whatever the price may be for viewers outside that area, it will be rolled into the price of the sports package. My guess is that the price for that package won't change yet, but might change next year, or the year after.


It will for sure be conus. There is not a single rsn or sports network of any kind that is not conus on directv.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 06:37 PM

Yeah, but there are some with part-time HD (-1). And with only 2 UT games a year, why go 24 hour HD?
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 06:48 PM

Yeah, but there are some with part-time HD (-1). And with only 2 UT games a year, why go 24 hour HD?


Many if the currently parttime HD RSNs are parttime HD from the RSN or are alternate channels.

And they are all conus.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:35 PM

Yeah, but there are some with part-time HD (-1). And with only 2 UT games a year, why go 24 hour HD?


The Mtn is part time HD on all systems right now.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:50 PM

does anyone think this network will fail and close later down the road.

I mean if they do well, how many other schools will want there own sports networks next thing you know there will be a college sport pack 600 schools having there own network.

couldn't they have made a big 12 network.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:57 PM

does anyone think this network will fail and close later down the road.

I mean if they do well, how many other schools will want there own sports networks next thing you know there will be a college sport pack 600 schools having there own network.

couldn't they have made a big 12 network.


Texas in the Big 12 is a pretty unique situation. No other single school financially dominates its conference like Texas does the Big 12. Part of it is the geographic size and unity of following over that size. Part of it is that the Big 12 is a bunch of wimps.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:59 PM

does anyone think this network will fail and close later down the road.

I mean if they do well, how many other schools will want there own sports networks next thing you know there will be a college sport pack 600 schools having there own network.

couldn't they have made a big 12 network.


They probably could have made a Big 12 Network but UT would have to share. They want it all to themselves.

I think some other schools might want to go this way but very few are have the market, alumni base and the national rep that UT has.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:02 PM

Besides, they are not the first. Notre Dame has NBC for football and BYU is now independent and has its own channel.
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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:47 PM

They probably could have made a Big 12 Network but UT would have to share. They want it all to themselves.

I think some other schools might want to go this way but very few are have the market, alumni base and the national rep that UT has.

some schools just have there games on the local RSN's.
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 06:49 AM

Besides, they are not the first. Notre Dame has NBC for football and BYU is now independent and has its own channel.


I don't think that an OTA football deal and a largely religious based channel are similar to what Longhorn Network will be. My main concern with it is the lack of content. Two football games aren't going to cut it. The closest thing out there that's similar to this is the Fighting Sioux Sports Network in North Dakota. Obviously, that's on a smaller scale but it's the only college regional network that I know of and I believe that it's only a part-time channel.

They probably could have made a Big 12 Network but UT would have to share. They want it all to themselves.

I think some other schools might want to go this way but very few are have the market, alumni base and the national rep that UT has.


This was a concession to teams to keep them in the Big 12. The conference strongly considered their own network but to make them happy, they dropped the idea. It's all about the money and holding the conference together. They gave back a minimum of two football games to each school to sell as their own and make money from. This way, each school keeps the money for themselves and doesn't have to share the pot.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 07:09 AM

I know that ESPN wants the LHN to be on the expanded tiers for cable companies and want a big amount of money per sub, ESPN wants to also redo all their contracts at the same time as well

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 07:59 AM

I know that ESPN wants the LHN to be on the expanded tiers for cable companies and want a big amount of money per sub, ESPN wants to also redo all their contracts at the same time as well


I guess ESPN wants to recoup the tons of money they gave to the SEC and other conferences. I think the SEC thought about having their own network but the ESPN deal was too good of deal to turn down vs money they would have to spend to create their own network.
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 08:09 AM

Per Sports Business Daily----ESPN is asking for $ .40 per month per subscriber in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana and New Mexico. No mention of what they are asking outside this area.


Living in Oklahoma, I'd pay DirecTV $0.40 a month to keep it OFF the satellite! :sure:

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 08:25 AM

Niche Network. Maybe delivered via regional spot beam would be best. Directv needs the room for the new Lakers and Padres sport networks.


LOL, you actually think there are more people who follow the San Diego Padres than the University of Texas?

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 09:19 AM

LOL, you actually think there are more people who follow the San Diego Padres than the University of Texas?


Please review 150+ Padres Games vs 2 U of Texas games.
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 09:28 AM

LOL, you actually think there are more people who follow the San Diego Padres than the University of Texas?


I'll tell you this much.

The Padres signed a 20 year deal with Fox Sports that is worth between $25-30M per season, or almost twice as much what ESPN offered Texas.

And all in all, it really depends on which part of the country you are from. In some areas, college sports is second to Jesus, notably in the south. Where I grew up, if we do watch college football or basketball or whichever, it would simply be for entertainment purposes only.

I'm certain that UT would draw a hefty sum and I would watch because I like sports in general. But comparing them to the Padres is Apples and Oranges.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 10:10 AM

I'll tell you this much.

The Padres signed a 20 year deal with Fox Sports that is worth between $25-30M per season, or almost twice as much what ESPN offered Texas.

And all in all, it really depends on which part of the country you are from. In some areas, college sports is second to Jesus, notably in the south. Where I grew up, if we do watch college football or basketball or whichever, it would simply be for entertainment purposes only.

I'm certain that UT would draw a hefty sum and I would watch because I like sports in general. But comparing them to the Padres is Apples and Oranges.


The price is based upon hours of live programming, not the ratings. I assure you that Texas football draws more eyeballs per hour than a Padres game.
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 11:29 AM

Living in Oklahoma, I'd pay DirecTV $0.40 a month to keep it OFF the satellite! :sure:


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Posted 06 July 2011 - 12:11 PM

does anyone think this network will fail and close later down the road.

I mean if they do well, how many other schools will want there own sports networks next thing you know there will be a college sport pack 600 schools having there own network.

couldn't they have made a big 12 network.


Texas is pretty big.... and college sport is probably bigger in Texas then anywhere else. Well everything in Texas is big anyways. :D

In think they would have enough viewers to make it commercially interesting. There are RSN's with less viewers I would imagine.
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 12:25 PM

If World War III broke out on the same day as a UT football game, the local news would lead with UT football, yea it's big down here.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 01:45 PM

If World War III broke out on the same day as a UT football game, the local news would lead with UT football, yea it's big down here.


Yeah. I second that. UT football is LIFE in Austin and all of Central Texas for that matter. I must have this channel DirecTV!!! HOOK 'EM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 02:18 PM

Yeah. I second that. UT football is LIFE in Austin and all of Central Texas for that matter. I must have this channel DirecTV!!! HOOK 'EM!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am no fan of UT (even though I have a couple of friends who played baseball there) but I want it, too. More sports makes me more happy.
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Posted 06 July 2011 - 03:42 PM

It would be in DIRECTV's best long term interest to not add this channel. DBS has bandwidth limitations that are harder to address than a local cable affiliate. If this becomes the next trend in the college money grab called college sports it will have some serious negative impacts to DBS and it's customers.

FYI $0.40 for this channel is an insane price point. I don't care how big of a fan base it has.




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