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#526 OFFLINE   mnassour

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:54 PM

Directv has 20 million subs that ESPN would lose revenue from if it did that plus advertising dollars. At $5M a sub per month x 20 million that's $100M a month plus a pro-rated ad dollars PLUS ESPN 2, ESPNU, ESPN classic, GamePlan, etc. that would not get carried. Those items far outweigh what Longhorn can generate for ESPN.


Another excellent point, that money is far more than what ESPN is having to pay The University, which is about $15 million per year.

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#527 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:57 PM

Another excellent point, that money is far more than what ESPN is having to pay The University, which is about $15 million per year.


ESPN now seems to be just in recovering losses mode. $15 million a year is spit money to ESPN/Disney. They are not going to piss everyone off to recoup it.
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#528 OFFLINE   mnassour

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:33 PM

Well, that $15 million is just for the rights. You then have to finance and run the durn thing, complete with 1) equipment, 2) salaries, 3) practically no one watching with little ad revenue coming it.

I wonder if the bright eye at Disney who came up with this beast still has a job?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:37 PM

Well, that $15 million is just for the rights. You then have to finance and run the durn thing, complete with 1) equipment, 2) salaries, 3) practically no one watching with little ad revenue coming it.

I wonder if the bright eye at Disney who came up with this beast still has a job?


Now that is probably true. Someone's head rolled on it.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:20 AM

Another excellent point, that money is far more than what ESPN is having to pay The University, which is about $15 million per year.


and they show 1 or 2 football games - but they keep the Big 12 intact and the ability to show most of Texas and Oklahoma football games on regular ESPN channels.

If Big 12 falls apart where are these teams going and where is ESPN going with it's TV coverage? It needs the Big 12 to fill it's TV slate.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:32 AM

That's one big reason the Big 12 isn't going anywhere....ESPN money.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:51 AM

That's one big reason the Big 12 isn't going anywhere....ESPN money.


The Pac12/Big Ten, Big XII/SEC alliance helps too.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:45 PM

As a Longhorns fan, I would love to see them add the LHN for this upcoming football season. I know it's only two games, but I'd also like the pre and post game coverage.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:49 AM

It's on U-verse, finally.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:19 AM

It's on U-verse, finally.

http://www.burntoran...l-carry-channel


Cool! That's about a dozen more subs.....

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:25 AM

Doesn't help here, AT&T stopped deploying U-Verse just on the other side of Nutty Brown Road.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:26 AM

Yea, both Verizon and AT&T have said their fiber build-outs are complete. If you don't have it now, you're not gonna get it. Until this thing is on Time Warner or some satellite system, it does not have adequate distribution anywhere, regardless of how Burnt Orange Nation tries to spin it.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:43 AM

Yea, both Verizon and AT&T have said their fiber build-outs are complete. If you don't have it now, you're not gonna get it. Until this thing is on Time Warner or some satellite system, it does not have adequate distribution anywhere, regardless of how Burnt Orange Nation tries to spin it.


U-Verse has a huge footprint in Texas, and some other places.
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:47 AM

U-Verse has a huge footprint in Texas, and some other places.


Just, at least to me, seems strange how the decide where to implement. I live in a development that currently has 1,100 homes in it with a buildout of 2,000. On the other side of the road from the development they've deployed U-Verse in an area with 1+ arce size lots, very low population density. We're both served out of the same telco CO so to me it doesn't make sense.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:32 AM

This provides options at least. Uverse available here so it may be time to ditch DTV.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:46 PM

This provides options at least. Uverse available here so it may be time to ditch DTV.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:49 AM

I sure hope that ATT signing up LHN will open Directv's eyes. Sooner than later too....
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:02 AM

I sure hope that ATT signing up LHN will open Directv's eyes. Sooner than later too....


I'm with you on that one man, except I think LHN is asking providers for too much based on how long it's taken them to get to being on 2 to3 providers. HOOK 'EM!
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:39 AM

I'm with you on that one man, except I think LHN is asking providers for too much based on how long it's taken them to get to being on 2 to3 providers. HOOK 'EM!


No matter how much they are asking, they are not offering enough programming to make it worthwhile for most systems.
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Posted 07 September 2012 - 11:44 AM

not news for DTV but might be news for Texas fans. Longhorn Network is now on Uverse. Channels 609 and 1609.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:18 PM

Here in Austin, that means their total number of households have more than doubled....to about 12. ;)

Actually, that gives them access to about 10% of the total cable homes in this market.

There's been a big brouhaha over it already. Multiple bars rushed out and signed up for uVerse. Then, just before last week's game, they discovered that AT&T would NOT market the LHN signal to commercial accounts. Sweet.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:44 AM

Here in Austin, that means their total number of households have more than doubled....to about 12. ;)

Actually, that gives them access to about 10% of the total cable homes in this market.

There's been a big brouhaha over it already. Multiple bars rushed out and signed up for uVerse. Then, just before last week's game, they discovered that AT&T would NOT market the LHN signal to commercial accounts. Sweet.


That's ridiculous. Texas and ESPN made their bed and they can lie in it, but Texas fans are the ones getting screwed here. From what I understand with the new Big 12 TV deal, Texas may be able to park a conference game this year on the LHN meaning that a third of their games are LHN exclusive.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:51 AM

Here in Austin, that means their total number of households have more than doubled....to about 12. ;)

Actually, that gives them access to about 10% of the total cable homes in this market.

There's been a big brouhaha over it already. Multiple bars rushed out and signed up for uVerse. Then, just before last week's game, they discovered that AT&T would NOT market the LHN signal to commercial accounts. Sweet.


Wow. Completely mismanaged.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 03:00 PM

That's ridiculous. Texas and ESPN made their bed and they can lie in it, but Texas fans are the ones getting screwed here. From what I understand with the new Big 12 TV deal, Texas may be able to park a conference game this year on the LHN meaning that a third of their games are LHN exclusive.


At this point, I can't imagine The University exercising an option to slip yet another game onto LHN, at least until the distribution issues are resolved. One thing to remember, UT is only providing the product. Disney is the one playing hard-to-get in the marketing department. Hell, even the bleedin' university president can't get it at his house!

As for AT&T not being able to sell it to commercial establishments, I don't think anyone's quite figured out what happened there yet. All I know is that those folks I know at The University are getting more and more pissed all the time. Methinks ESPN made some promises as to carriage that its overlords at Disney are not allowing it to keep.

UT didn't agree to this thing just for the money....it wanted the exposure as well. And it's not getting that.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 03:09 PM

At this point, I can't imagine The University exercising an option to slip yet another game onto LHN, given the hassles around it. One thing to remember, UT is only providing the product. Disney is the one playing hard-to-get in the marketing department. Hell, even the bleedin' university president can't get it at his house!

As for AT&T not being able to sell it to commercial establishments, I don't think anyone's quite figured out what happened there yet. All I know is that those folks I know at The University are getting more and more pissed all the time. Methinks ESPN made some promises as to carriage that its overlords at Disney are not allowing it to keep.

UT didn't agree to this thing just for the money....it wanted the exposure as well. And it's not getting that.


Yes. But it is pretty much karma that the Texas hubris gave them a product they are now almost running away from. I would think they could bring pressure on espn if they wanted to.
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