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#621 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:59 AM

Of course not.  Only the big time schools deserve their own network.
I wouldn't mind having a Texas Network, Notre Dame network, Alabama network, Florida network, Ohio State network, Michigan network, Stanford network, UCLA network, etc.
I'll pay a $1.00 or even $2.00 per month for those.  Or a $15,95 per month separate college sports package to get all of those channels.  It would be worth it to me.
No smaller university has a chance to get on TV.  Only the major universities do, such as the ones I highlighted in bold text above.


Wait. Only the big time schools? Stanford? If you include Stanford, you just pretty much included most of the big five conference schools.
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:17 AM

Of course not.  Only the big time schools deserve their own network.

I wouldn't mind having a Texas Network, Notre Dame network, Alabama network, Florida network, Ohio State network, Michigan network, Stanford network, UCLA network, etc.

I'll pay a $1.00 or even $2.00 per month for those.  Or a $15,95 per month separate college sports package to get all of those channels.  It would be worth it to me.

No smaller university has a chance to get on TV.  Only the major universities do, such as the ones I highlighted in bold text above.

Notre Dame has NBC / Comcast channels to use.

 

The others are part of BTN, SEC, PAC12 and so on.


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 01:49 PM

Of course not.  Only the big time schools deserve their own network.

I wouldn't mind having a Texas Network, Notre Dame network, Alabama network, Florida network, Ohio State network, Michigan network, Stanford network, UCLA network, etc.

I'll pay a $1.00 or even $2.00 per month for those.  Or a $15,95 per month separate college sports package to get all of those channels.  It would be worth it to me.

No smaller university has a chance to get on TV.  Only the major universities do, such as the ones I highlighted in bold text above.

 

Who decides who qualifies as a "big time school"? You? And calling UCLA big time? WTF??

 

If you think small time schools don't have a chance to have their own channel, you'd be wrong. To my knowledge, every Big 12 team has their own channel. So if LHN deserves to be on Directv, why shouldn't the Cyclone Network?

 

Iowa State partnered with Mediacom for their channel instead of ESPN since they're a major cable company in the state, but they could always buy out Mediacom and sell a share to ESPN. Hell, give a share to ESPN for free, in exchange for a promise that in future renegotiations, ESPN will force carriage of Cyclone Network just like they appear to be forcing carriage of Longhorn Network. Free money to ESPN, so they might consider it.

 

How would you feel about having your bill going up 10 cents to pay for the Cyclone Network? Apparently you're fine with small change when it is something YOU want to watch, how about if your bill goes up for something you definitely don't want to watch? Now add a couple dozen more small time schools like TCU, Washington State, Purdue, Vanderbilt, and Syracuse and watch your bill go up and up!


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:47 PM

Who decides who qualifies as a "big time school"? You? And calling UCLA big time? WTF??

 

If you think small time schools don't have a chance to have their own channel, you'd be wrong. To my knowledge, every Big 12 team has their own channel. So if LHN deserves to be on Directv, why shouldn't the Cyclone Network?

 

Iowa State partnered with Mediacom for their channel instead of ESPN since they're a major cable company in the state, but they could always buy out Mediacom and sell a share to ESPN. Hell, give a share to ESPN for free, in exchange for a promise that in future renegotiations, ESPN will force carriage of Cyclone Network just like they appear to be forcing carriage of Longhorn Network. Free money to ESPN, so they might consider it.

 

How would you feel about having your bill going up 10 cents to pay for the Cyclone Network? Apparently you're fine with small change when it is something YOU want to watch, how about if your bill goes up for something you definitely don't want to watch? Now add a couple dozen more small time schools like TCU, Washington State, Purdue, Vanderbilt, and Syracuse and watch your bill go up and up!

 

There's a Kansas State channel? Kansas? Iowa? I don't think so... 


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 07:22 PM

There's a Kansas State channel? Kansas? Iowa? I don't think so...

Iowa isn't in the big XII.

Kansas state's is digital.

http://www.kstatespo...kstatehdtv.html

And here is info on kansas's network.

http://www.kuathleti...51.aspx#Channel

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 12:19 PM

New test channels.  How long do they test and when will it be live?

 

0        *LHN            677    22      D9S @101W Test: CONUS Record         021    0082            Longhorn Network

Longhorn Network

 

15      *LHNHD       677    5        D10 @103W Test: CONUS Record         128    1020            Longhorn Network HD

Longhorn Network HD



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Posted 29 September 2014 - 12:30 PM

There is no answer, they could be in test for a few days, a few months, or they can be removed if something changes. If negotiations are going well they usually let the provider add the channels so everything will be ready to go, but they can't offer them to subscribers until the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed on the contract.

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 12:46 PM

I heard a rumor that Directv and Disney had an agreement to add the new channels but are still working on other stuff like WatchESPN and ESPN3 distribution.


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Posted 29 September 2014 - 04:38 PM

Couple of sites picking up on the news (which they received the information from here of course).

First the usual....TVPredictions.com and second is a Texas Longhorns sports news site (in partnership with 247Sports.com / CBSSports.com) 

 

http://www.tvpredict...om/tv092814.htm

 

http://texas.247spor...recTV--31573228


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 06:02 AM

Of course not.  Only the big time schools deserve their own network.

I wouldn't mind having a Texas Network, Notre Dame network, Alabama network, Florida network, Ohio State network, Michigan network, Stanford network, UCLA network, etc.

I'll pay a $1.00 or even $2.00 per month for those.  Or a $15,95 per month separate college sports package to get all of those channels.  It would be worth it to me.

No smaller university has a chance to get on TV.  Only the major universities do, such as the ones I highlighted in bold text above.

 

You forgot to include the school that kicks Texas's ass on an annual basis and more often than not wins the Big 12 title. BOOMER!


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 06:16 AM

I think generally for national distribution on television, conferences make sense as channels.  Every school having its own channel for national TV distribution is crazy.  One of the big issues is that if a game is on that channel and it is exclusive, opposing teams' fans won't get to see it if it's not carried nationally.

 

If schools are going to have local channels just for themselves and predominantly televised locally, that would be fine so long as they allowed the other school to also televise the game.  (Kind of like MLB regular season.) 



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Posted 30 September 2014 - 06:50 AM

You forgot to include the school that kicks Texas's ass on an annual basis and more often than not wins the Big 12 title. BOOMER!

I guess you forgot Texas leads the series, 60–43–5.


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 07:39 AM

I think generally for national distribution on television, conferences make sense as channels.  Every school having its own channel for national TV distribution is crazy.  One of the big issues is that if a game is on that channel and it is exclusive, opposing teams' fans won't get to see it if it's not carried nationally.

 

If schools are going to have local channels just for themselves and predominantly televised locally, that would be fine so long as they allowed the other school to also televise the game.  (Kind of like MLB regular season.) 

I would be fine with each school having its own channel if the channel was available a la carte.  If the channel is to be placed in a programming package (or even in the sports pack), then I agree it should be by conference - not by school.



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Posted 30 September 2014 - 07:48 AM

Of course not.  Only the big time schools deserve their own network.

I wouldn't mind having a Texas Network, Notre Dame network, Alabama network, Florida network, Ohio State network, Michigan network, Stanford network, UCLA network, etc.

I'll pay a $1.00 or even $2.00 per month for those.  Or a $15,95 per month separate college sports package to get all of those channels.  It would be worth it to me.

No smaller university has a chance to get on TV.  Only the major universities do, such as the ones I highlighted in bold text above.

Assuming those are the right teams for football (and BTW, you left out a few big contenders like Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Florida State . . .) it would make no sense once basketball season starts.  Then you would need to add networks for Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, UNC, Michigan State, Louisville.  Then when baseball season starts, there would be yet another group (South Carolina, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Arizona State, Clemson, Cal State Fullerton, Miami, Southern Cal . . .).

 

A network per conference makes the most sense.  A network per school only makes sense if they were each available a la carte, but even then, there would be bandwidth issues.



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Posted 30 September 2014 - 08:27 AM

The set of schools that are big time in football today isn't necessarily the set that will be in a decade. Ditto basketball, etc. Where was Auburn a decade ago, how much would people be willing to pay for their team channel in 2004? If Texas and Michigan are in a long term decline (not likely given their budgets and history, but can't be ruled out) how long before it would affect the appeal of their team network?

 

Why would teams be willing to do ala carte and take the rest of falling revenue in the future if the appeal of their channel declines, they'd do like Texas and hitch their wagon to some big player like ESPN so it can be forced on unwilling people like LHN has been. The fact Texas is irrelevant in football the last few years doesn't matter to the success of LHN, it has been locked in for 20 years by ESPN so now they're forcing forcing it on everyone whether they like it or not. There's a local cable system that serves a small town north of me that was forced to carry SEC Network and LHN as a condition of renewing the Disney/ESPN deal, even though they had no interest in carrying either.

 

ESPN wasn't able to find many willing takers for LHN, so they're using it as a requirement to get the deal done. My point in asking this question originally was, what happens if there are a dozen of these? Two dozen? A channel for every team in the five major conferences plus ND?


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 10:28 AM

I guess you forgot Texas leads the series, 60–43–5.


Big 12 titles: OU 8 - UT 3
Natties: OU 7 - UT 4
OU has won 7 conference championships and UT has won 1 conference championship since 2000.
OU has appeared in more BCS Bowls since 2000 (9 to 3).
OU has ended the season with a higher rank than UT more often since 2000 (7 to 4). [through Jan-2011]
OU won the last Big12 Conference championship.
OU has a better winning percentage since 2000 (.8243 to .8143). [122-26-0 to 114-26-0]
OU has more wins since 2000 (122 to 114).
OU has a better win loss record against Gametime AP Top 10 teams (13-9 to 7-12). [through Jan-2011]
OU has a better win loss record against Final AP Top 10 teams. [through Jan-2011]
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Posted 30 September 2014 - 10:33 AM

Big 12 titles: OU 8 - UT 3
Natties: OU 7 - UT 4
OU has won 7 conference championships and UT has won 1 conference championship since 2000.
OU has appeared in more BCS Bowls since 2000 (9 to 3).
OU has ended the season with a higher rank than UT more often since 2000 (7 to 4). [through Jan-2011]
OU won the last Big12 Conference championship.
OU has a better winning percentage since 2000 (.8243 to .8143). [122-26-0 to 114-26-0]
OU has more wins since 2000 (122 to 114).
OU has a better win loss record against Gametime AP Top 10 teams (13-9 to 7-12). [through Jan-2011]
OU has a better win loss record against Final AP Top 10 teams. [through Jan-2011]

yeah, but evidently you can't beat texas.



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Posted 30 September 2014 - 11:14 AM

The set of schools that are big time in football today isn't necessarily the set that will be in a decade. Ditto basketball, etc. Where was Auburn a decade ago, how much would people be willing to pay for their team channel in 2004? 

 

Actually, I bet a lot of people would've paid for an Auburn channel in 2004, as that team went 13-0, won the SEC, the Sugar Bowl, and finished #2 in the final rankings.

 

I get what you are saying, though.


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 06:41 PM

Actually, I bet a lot of people would've paid for an Auburn channel in 2004, as that team went 13-0, won the SEC, the Sugar Bowl, and finished #2 in the final rankings.

 

I get what you are saying, though.

 

I meant Alabama :)


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Posted 30 September 2014 - 08:18 PM

I'm hearing next week is the target, however even that is not set in stone yet.






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