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Can I just say? I'm glad News Corp. is no longer involved with DIRECTV


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#26 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 01:57 PM

When I saw this thread, I made a bet with myself about how long it would be before political partisanship raised its ugly head.


Again .. Please stop with any political discussion about your choice of news services. I made a simple comment with a reference to where I heard it. That is all. This is news and anyone that disagrees with my observation is crazy. No way would DIRECTV being associated with News Corp today be better than DIRECTV not being associated with News Corp today.

The stuff is hitting the fan and bleeding into the US now. News Corp is in the midst of big, big problems even if they (as a whole) didn't do anything wrong.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 02:04 PM

Again .. Please stop with any political discussion about your choice of news services. I made a simple comment with a reference to where I heard it. That is all. This is news and anyone that disagrees with my observation is crazy. No way would DIRECTV being associated with News Corp today be better than DIRECTV not being associated with News Corp today.

The stuff is hitting the fan and bleeding into the US now. News Corp is in the midst of big, big problems even if they (as a whole) didn't do anything wrong.


Murdoch might not have know what was going on at that magazine. They may have been trying to keep it quite from him. He did the right thing it shutting it down quickly. I mentioned Fox News because its owned by News Corp and I hope this doesn't effect Fox News since I like them, they are good outfit. Sorry about that.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:15 PM

Ship Murcoch back to Australia. A pox on him and his son and News Corp.

Citizen Kane would be ashamed.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:17 PM

Boy, it's amazing how the liberal media cringes about FOX entities, and then minimize their own flaws and agendas that far outnumber FOX's issues. Should have shut this thread down a long time ago.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:30 PM

Rep King (NY-R) is asking that News Corp be investigated here for 9/11 victims tampering.

If that is proved, that makes the practice in multiple Murdoch's companies and he would have a extreme hard time denying any knowledge.

Wonder if he approve this practice in his home country?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:34 PM

Much ado about nothing. If it wasn't related to News Corp or Murdock, you wouldn't have the outcry.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:38 PM

Folks let's try to keep this thread on topic.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:46 PM

A company is caught doing things it shouldn't. This company just happens to be a News organization.

Why is everyone turning this into some political thing?

Who cares if it was News Corp or Murdoch or CNN or Turner or Enron or any other company or person?

They did crap they shouldn't have and like Doug, I'm glad that company/person doesn't have anything to do with Directv any more.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:10 PM

I bet what we know now is only the tip of the iceberg of wrong doing.
This would have crippled D* if Newscorp still had an interest in the service. The company is buying back stock at an acellerated rate that would have drained cash for future investment in the company.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:23 PM

From a conservative blogger:

http://www.thedailyb...-york-post.html

The media mogul is under fire over the London phone-hacking scandal, but here in America his New York Post has struggled with allegations that it rewarded friends and punished enemies. Howard Kurtz reports.


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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:45 PM

I know everyone will disagree with this but if News Corp never bought Directv we would have never had the HR Platform for our dvr's and we would probably always have been on Tivo or something else. Yes I know the HR platform is not from NDS but the whole design and interface reflects the R15 originally with the active and red button services. So I know a lot of people like the HR platform over Tivo but if News Corp was never involved with Directv then things would be very different now with our services. So you should be thankful to News Corp somewhat.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 06:19 PM

I know everyone will disagree with this but if News Corp never bought Directv we would have never had the HR Platform for our dvr's and we would probably always have been on Tivo or something else. Yes I know the HR platform is not from NDS but the whole design and interface reflects the R15 originally with the active and red button services. So I know a lot of people like the HR platform over Tivo but if News Corp was never involved with Directv then things would be very different now with our services. So you should be thankful to News Corp somewhat.


While I'm not sure News Corp was specifically part of the HR decision making, I think your point is still sound overall.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:07 PM

Folks let's try to keep this thread on topic.


Uhhhh, and what would that topic be? Seriously, you didn't expect this to turn political?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:29 PM

I certainly didn't.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:32 PM

With Chase Carey as President and COO at News Corp. they might have done some great stuff at BSkyB. After all, he helped build a pretty good infrastructure here. Too bad for everyone for every reason.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 01:02 AM

Well as much as I agree with you Doug... And as much as I hated them when they owned the dodgers for the way they screwed up in the running of the team, I'd take them back in a heart beat over idiot McCourt. ;)

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:26 AM

Say what you will. But when Murdoch ran DTV they went hard after HD and a big splash, lots of channels. Kinda like his papers . Too bad he sold out. We would have lots more HD channels now. Not just more HBOs HD .

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:49 AM

I suppose that's possible except that Mr. Murdoch never had an operations position within DIRECTV, just an ownership stake.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:56 AM

It's hard to say .. Murdoch did help DIRECTV drive technology for the most part. Re: TiVo, it wasn't about using NDS stuff as much as it was about TiVo asking for too much money in the 2004-2006 time frame. A deal was nearly done, but at the last minute, something changed and DIRECTV decided to go their own way.

After Murdoch, I think Liberty did a good job of growing the bottom line (for DIRECTV). Even with the success of News Corp, I believe DIRECTV was better off for the change. And now, DIRECTV has cut the cord and they are on their own.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:05 AM

As if they're the only British publishers to engage in this kind of mayhem? Sure, this is a big scandal, but I doubt they're the only ones who have broken the law. British tabloid journalism is disgusting and absolutely cutthroat, far worse than what we see in this country...and I agree there's no traction that will happen in the US *unless* it is proven it happened here also. Very few people in this country care (or even know about) The News of the World or UK Sat broadcasting -- to pretend otherwise is absurd.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:32 AM

Agreed, but that wasn't even really my point. The point is, that one of DIRECTV's previous large stakeholders is now caught in a scandal that is spiraling downward. If DIRECTV were still "owned" by News Corp in the way they were a few years back, DIRECTV's stock would be falling hard. I'm glad that that is not the case (and I don't even have DIRECTV stock).
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:40 AM

I feel like DirecTV under News Corp. aligned more with my interests than DirecTV does today. So regardless of the current scandals, I believe I'd still be happier if News Corp. owned DirecTV.

Now let's go celebrate some more new premium HD channels! :nono:

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:41 AM

Doug has eloquently stated the bottom line. There's nothing political here, just bad business that we're glad we're no part of.

As for your comment, Mr. W, it's understood but how much of that alignment was due to the ownership and how much was due to the management? For that matter, how much is due to external factors like content provider greed and the poor economy?
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:51 AM

Not that I think it would have any impact on the company, doesn't Murdoch still own a large chunk of DirecTV? I know Liberty now has controlling interest, but that doesn't mean that Murdoch isn't still heavily invested in DirecTV. Either way, like I said, I can't imagine this would do anything to DirecTV, or any other companies that News Corp owns, like Fox News - FNC isn't going to fold just because the parent company acted like this.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:56 AM

doesn't Murdoch still own a large chunk of DirecTV?

I don't believe Rupert or News Corp. have any stake in DirecTV.




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