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DIRECTV Transponder Map: New Data 8/17/2011


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#1 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:58 PM

The first Excel attachment to this post, TPN_MAP_Domestic, covers all U.S. DIRECTV Channels and Transponders, CONUS (Continental U.S. or National beams) and LIL (Local-Into -Local or Spot beams). Satellites at the 72.5W, 95W, 99W, 101W, 103W, 110W and 119W positions are included.

Note that at the bottom of the Excel page, there are six tabs or 'sheets':

  • CONUS TPN MAP all CONUS channels in channel number sequence
  • LIL TPN MAP all LIL channels in network number (market name) sequence
  • LIL MARKET LIST cross reference information necessary to navigate the LIL TPN Map
  • CHANNEL COUNT a count of channels provided per satellite


  • NETWORK DECODER shows the satellites and transponders graphically as they appear on your receiver's signal strength display
  • TUTORIAL a quick procedure to find your LIL transponders for the very first time

A second Excel attachment, TPN_MAP_LatinAm, covers DIRECTV Latin America transponders. Pseudo Network 0 (Beam Oeste) and Network 1 (Beam Sur) are shown; Network 2 (Beam PR) is not yet included.


Additional details for US Domestic channels are available regarding:

OTA (Over The Air) information and discussion in this DBSTalk thread.

DNS (Distant Network Service) information and discussion in this DBSTalk thread.

LIL (Local-Into-Local) information and discussion in this DBSTalk thread.

All documents are fully unprotected so you may copy and use the data as you wish.
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Edited by gct, 18 August 2011 - 02:31 PM.
uploaded new 8/17/11 TPN Map



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#2 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:08 PM

A few interesting LIL changes:

3 Markets have TPN/Satellite changes in test, all from SW1 to SW2

[table="head"]MKT 1|NET 512|Abilene, TX|on TPN 5/SW1 @103|to test on TPN 3/SW2 @99

MKT 73|NET 584|Gainesville, FL|on TPN 2/SW1 @103|to test on TPN 4/SW2 @99

MKT 119|NET 630|Marquette, WI|on TPN 2/SW1 @103|to test on TPN 4/SW2 @99
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Posted 27 July 2011 - 06:40 PM

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Several Satellite swaps on small market LIL's. Mostly Spaceway swaps:
[table=”head”]Market 1|Abilene,TX
Market 2|Albany,GA
Market 23|Beckley-Bluefield,WV
Market 46|Columbia,MO
Market 73|Gainseville,FL
Market 162|Rockford,IL[/table]


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Posted 02 August 2011 - 05:59 AM

Thanks for the latest data capture;

Good work as always.

One note of correction though is D12's 16 CONUS transponders (Network 15) on the Network Decoder map continue to be listed incorrectly as "spot beams."

May want to change that ... :)

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 10:40 AM

Several Satellite swaps on small market LIL's. Mostly Spaceway swaps:
[table=”head”]Market 1|Abilene,TX
Market 2|Albany,GA
Market 23|Beckley-Bluefield,WV
Market 46|Columbia,MO
Market 73|Gainseville,FL
Market 162|Rockford,IL[/table]


Interesting....

I wonder what my signal readings for Market #2 would be...

Previously, everyone got a "0" from that market's transponder...

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#6 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 03:35 PM

.... one note of correction though is D12's 16 CONUS transponders (Network 15) on the Network Decoder map continue to be listed incorrectly as "spot beams." ...


So I said, how could he possibly be mis-reading the chart like that. And then I checked the chart that gets posted. Oh, my.

So the question becomes, how could I possibly label that so incorrectly.

So thank you VERY much for catching that typo and taking the time to update me. I just feel bad for any newbies that looked at the version of the chart and tried to make sense of it.....

Sorry.
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Posted 04 August 2011 - 01:03 PM

Rapid City, SD HD LIL's activated!! :) This was announced by RobertE last week:

Network 14
[table=”head”]Station|Channel|TPN
KWBH|27|22
KCLO|15|21
MNT|22|21
KOTA|3|21
KBHE|9|21
KEVN|7|21
KNBN|21|21[/table]

Placed in Network 14, not the Network 667 that would be expected. Also just showed up active, not in test last week or over the weekend. (I checked just to be certain). We have seen this before, Albany,GA comes to mind. Of note, two weeks ago all Albany, GA, LIL's were moved to Network 513 as the initial part of major Spaceway 1 / Spaceway 2 rearrangement over several weeks. They had previously been split, some in Network 513, some in Network 14.

Many SW1/SW2 realignments continue:
[table=”head”]Market 3|Network 514|Albany, NY|one channel SW 1 TPN # change
Market 7|Network 518|Amarillo,TX|SW 1 TPN # changes
Market 25|Network 536|Boston, MA|one channel SW1 TPN # change
Market 28|Network 539|Burlington, VT|two channel SW1 TPN # change
Market 34|Network 545|Charleston, WV|SW 1 TPN # change
Market 61|Network 572|Erie, PA|SW 1 TPN # change
Market 71|Network 582|Ft Wayne, IN|SW 2 to SW 1 Satellite change
Market 159|Network 670|Roanoak, VA|SW 2 to SW 1 Satellite change
Market 174|Network 685|Shreveport, LA|SW 2 TPN # change
Market 175|Network 686|Sioux City, IA|TPN change
Market 186|Network 697|Terre Haute, IN|SW 1 to SW 2 Satellite change[/table]

One new TEST channel:
[table=”head”]Market 96|Network 607|Jacksonville, FL|*WGTV channel 8 GA PBS[/table]


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Posted 05 August 2011 - 02:52 AM

Interesting;

Any good guesses yet as to the possible meaning of "Network 14" (and "11") where according to the decoder map, spot beams are assigned Network ID numbers in the range normally reserved for CONUS beams?

Also, unless there is an error in the CONUS transponder map where it should read Network "15" instead of "14," any opinions as to why if Network 14 are spot beams from D10, 12, and SP1, the receiver test channels for the 103 CA CONUS beams, chs. 9508 and 9509, have the Net. 14 ID?

I know you guys can only report what you see, but just looking for some educated guesses here to help with some confusion :)

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 04:01 PM

Interesting;
Any good guesses yet as to the possible meaning of "Network 14" (and "11") where according to the decoder map, spot beams are assigned Network ID numbers in the range normally reserved for CONUS beams?:)


Hotat2,

Network 11 is the LIL (spot) network at the 99W location, Network 14 is the LIL (spot) network at the 103W location.

The 'decoder' is trying to convey the relationship of which sats and which TPNs of those sats (some Ka-hi, some Ka-lo) are administratively grouped together to provide LIL services. If you wish to delve deeper, we have charts correlating Sats, TPNs and the TID values that make up each Network. A bit complex, but it all comes together.

The old, original Networks (Network 0 @101W and Network 3 @119W) combined both CONUS and LIL services within a given Network. With the coming of Ka sats, separate Networks define LIL or CONUS services.

Networks 512 through 723 are Networks that administratively group the LIL services for each DMA ( or DIRECTV Market). These LIL Networks are effectively subsets assembled from elements of Networks 11 and 14.

These LIL Networks are not "assigned Network ID numbers in the range normally reserved for CONUS beams", but rather they are assigned their own stand alone LIL Network numbers, distinguishing them from the CONUS Networks.

Edited by gct, 09 August 2011 - 09:02 PM.
typo fix



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Posted 05 August 2011 - 04:15 PM

Interesting;
...unless there is an error in the CONUS transponder map where it should read Network "15" instead of "14," any opinions as to why if Network 14 are spot beams from D10, 12, and SP1, the receiver test channels for the 103 CA CONUS beams, chs. 9508 and 9509, have the Net. 14 ID?


By definition, Network 14 is spot beams from D10, D12 or SW1. The 103CA CONUS beams are all from D12. Absolutely correct. We have violent agreement.

Now why do channels 9508 and 9509 show up in the TPN Map as from Network 14? I do not know. Checking the raw data, these two channels actually show as Network 14, but Redirected from D12 in Network 15! Note that they show as 103CA entries. Why, the redirection? I do not know.

I hope one of our peers here at dbstalk will offer a compelling conjecture...


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Posted 08 August 2011 - 10:31 PM

I've just posted a new Domestic TPN Map labeled as 8/5/11 data.

Technically, that is not true, though: it is really the 8/3/11 data from doctor j. But on 8/5/11, doctor j ran that raw binary data through an upgraded data stream interpretation program. That of course meant changes and adaptations were necessary in the downstream parsing software too. It has taken a few days.

You will notice a lot more 'stuff' in the TPN Maps. As always, we do not take the liberty of adding or removing data. We format it and try to make it understandable. That's all.

You will see a number of incomplete entries, often without the satellite name field. You will see many duplicated entries, some with full data, others with incomplete data. Before the 8/3/11 data capture, we had very smooth, clean data to post. But beginning with the 8/3/11 data, we began to see all these new anomalies. In the past we had Hybrid Network entries; beginning with 8/3/11 data, we also had Redirected Hybrid entries. There are changes in progress, we are just trying to keep up...

The actual data you have here is accurate. Interpreting that data is the real challenge.


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Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:15 PM

Round 3 of Spaceway Rearrangements:

[table=”head”]MARKET 3|Network 514|Albany, NY|one channel Transponder change.
MARKET 11|Network 523|Augusta, GA|one test channel on a Transponder change
MARKET 17|Network 528|Beaumont, TX|Satellite change. SW2 to SW1
MARKET 21|Network 536|Binghamton, NY|Satellite change SW2 to SW1
MARKET 25|Network 536|Boston, MA|one channel Transponder change
MARKET 42|Network 553|Clarksburg, WV|Transponder change
MARKET 85|Network 596|Harrisonburg, VA|Transponder change
MARKET 91|Network 602|Huntsville, AL|Transponder change
MARKET 94|Network 605|Jackson, MS|Transponder change
MARKET 131|Network 642|Montgomery, AL|Transponder change
MARKET 164|Network 675|Salisbury, MD|no change seen
MARKET 171|Network 682|Savannah, GA|one channel Satellite change SW2 to SW1
MARKET 174|Network 685|Shreveport, LA|two channels Transponder change
MARKET 203|Network 714|Wheeling, WV|Transponder change[/table]


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Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:18 PM

Does this mean anything specific? Is SW being retired or repaired?

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Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:22 PM

This is new, fresh data as of 8/11/11.

As with the last update, this TPN Map used updated interpretation software and parsing.


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Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:28 PM

Does this mean anything specific? Is SW being retired or repaired?

Kevin


I would say SW-1/2 are "revitalized" from last months of underusing. :)

Initially those two sats has much more active transponders ( a few years ago ).

Last months added [restarted] five tpns on each SW sat.

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 07:26 PM

....Last months added [restarted] five tpns on each SW sat.


Just a typo here - last month, each of the SW sats began using five new TID numbers, not five new TPNs. These are TIDs that have not been used in the last few years; they may have been used earlier. It may be a harbinger of a coming increase in load, or it may just be an administrative adjustment.


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Posted 17 August 2011 - 05:42 PM

No Yuma, AZ, LIL's as RobertE said might occur today


Not much on the Spaceway rearrangement


2 New TEST changes in MKT 169 NET 680, San Francisco, CA

*KCSM Chl 43 TPN 15
*KOFY Chl 20 TPN 23




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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:14 PM

A number of folks don't like the 'clutter' of Hybrid Networks, inactive entries and incomplete data entries that are now a part of the TPN Map.

Problem is, I don't think you want any of us making decisions on what entries in the database that you do or do not need to see.

Hopefully, the 8/17 presentation will solve both concerns:

All the data entries are still provided, nothing has been removed

But the entries are now sorted a little differently. Both the CONUS and LIL MAPS have a large, Bold black bar near the middle of the data, marking a transition:

Above the bar, we have our normal, historic style entries of active channels.

Below the black bar, are all the 'inactive' entries, Hybrid and Hybrid Redirect entries and entries with incomplete data fields.

Please let me know what you think.....


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Posted 18 August 2011 - 02:33 PM

The TPN MAP for DIRECTVLA has been updated to data of 8/15/11. (See post #1)

The data includes all Beam Oeste and Beam Sur. Beam PR is not yet included in the database.


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Posted 23 August 2011 - 12:26 PM

Sorry for the cross-post, but I'm not seeing any response in the spot beam forum. Does anyone have a thought on the following question?

I am trying to understand the maps and getting a bit confused. I'm in the South San Francisco Bay Area, but I see two spot beam maps: one for San Francisco (D12 A2BD) and one for San Jose (D12 A3BA). I'm certainly closer to San Jose (a few miles) than San Francisco. What Spot Beam would I be receiving HD locals from then? There is a wide difference in the availability of the spot beams based on where each comes from. The SF beam seems focused more "west" and thins out across California, while the SJ beam seems focused more "east" and covers most of north west California.




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