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#1 OFFLINE   bixler

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 05:03 PM

Hoping one (or a few) of you knowledgeable people in this forum can help me out. Been thinking about setting up Whole Home DVR service but I'm not quite sure what I need.

Per my sig, I have a Slimline5 with 4 lines going to a SWM 8 then a SWS-8 splitter feeding (1) HR 21-100, (2) HR 22-100's, and (1)H 21-100. I currently have (1) of the HR22-100's connected to my network via a WET610N bridge.

I'd like to connect everything to my network so I can use Whole Home service. The main problem is that my router is not in a location that I can access one of my receivers or the SWM 8 or the SWS-8 splitter. It's actually in a different area of the house that has it's own Comcast coax feed and no other coax available in the room.

I assume I need the wireless connection kit but how does that work and what else am I missing?

TIA!
Slimline5.....SWM 8.....SWS-8 8 way splitter
PI feeds SWS-8 splitter and HR 21-100 in Media Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Family Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12 wireless ethernet connection via Linksys WET610N
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Master Bedroom 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds H 21-100 in Guest Bedroom 0x45d2 3:27am 6/27/12

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#2 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 05:13 PM

First, keep in mind the Internet connection isn't required for Whole Home DVR. If you won't use the apps, downloaded VOD, YouTube, the iPad app, or PPV via remote (if no phone connected), you don't need to worry about it. That will change if you do want to use those things, but playing back recordings on a receiver doesn't need it.

Rereading this, you're wanting to use the "unsupported mode" or are you considering the official DECA solution?

#3 OFFLINE   bixler

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 05:23 PM

First, keep in mind the Internet connection isn't required for Whole Home DVR. If you won't use the apps, downloaded VOD, YouTube, the iPad app, or PPV via remote (if no phone connected), you don't need to worry about it. That will change if you do want to use those things, but playing back recordings on a receiver doesn't need it.

Rereading this, you're wanting to use the "unsupported mode" or are you considering the official DECA solution?


Yes, thanks....I keep forgetting that I don't really need the internet connection.

Not sure about unsupported or official DECA....can you let me know the difference? I just want to be able to play back recordings on the HD receiver and the other HD DVRs. Thanks!!
Slimline5.....SWM 8.....SWS-8 8 way splitter
PI feeds SWS-8 splitter and HR 21-100 in Media Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Family Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12 wireless ethernet connection via Linksys WET610N
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Master Bedroom 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds H 21-100 in Guest Bedroom 0x45d2 3:27am 6/27/12

#4 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 05:26 PM

Yes, thanks....I keep forgetting that I don't really need the internet connection.

Not sure about unsupported or official DECA....can you let me know the difference? I just want to be able to play back recordings on the HD receiver and the other HD DVRs. Thanks!!


Unsupported would mean running Ethernet cable to each receiver (wireless doesn't work well enough). Going supported outs DECA boxes on each receiver and they are connected together using the existing cabling. It requires SWM, but you've already got that.

#5 OFFLINE   bixler

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 05:31 PM

Unsupported would mean running Ethernet cable to each receiver (wireless doesn't work well enough). Going supported outs DECA boxes on each receiver and they are connected together using the existing cabling. It requires SWM, but you've already got that.


I can't really run ethernet to each receiver so that option is out. So how do the DECAs work? The HR 21 is right at the SWM8 and splitter if that is helpful. Does a DECA need to be connected to my router if I don't really care about the VOD features for the boxes? That's what my concern is....that my router is not close to any of my Direct TV wiring.
Slimline5.....SWM 8.....SWS-8 8 way splitter
PI feeds SWS-8 splitter and HR 21-100 in Media Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Family Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12 wireless ethernet connection via Linksys WET610N
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Master Bedroom 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds H 21-100 in Guest Bedroom 0x45d2 3:27am 6/27/12

#6 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 06:37 PM

If you don't care about them being on the net, no DECA there is needed. On a receiver other than a 24 or 25, the coax that goes to the receiver now plugs into the DECA, a short coax from the DECA to the receiver, and an Ethernet cable goes from the DECA to the jack on the receiver.

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 06:42 PM

If you don't care about them being on the net, no DECA there is needed. On a receiver other than a 24 or 25, the coax that goes to the receiver now plugs into the DECA, a short coax from the DECA to the receiver, and an Ethernet cable goes from the DECA to the jack on the receiver.


So I just need 4 DECAs? One for each receiver?

Does anything get hooked to the SWM8 or the SWS-8? I don't any have 'green labels'. Does that matter?
Slimline5.....SWM 8.....SWS-8 8 way splitter
PI feeds SWS-8 splitter and HR 21-100 in Media Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Family Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12 wireless ethernet connection via Linksys WET610N
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Master Bedroom 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds H 21-100 in Guest Bedroom 0x45d2 3:27am 6/27/12

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 06:53 PM

One additional note;

Even if you choose to use DECA it will still be listed as an "unsupported" install by DIRECTV unless you have them do it.

Which means all future troubleshooting and other support for it lies with you.

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 06:53 PM

So I just need 4 DECAs? One for each receiver?

Does anything get hooked to the SWM8 or the SWS-8? I don't any have 'green labels'. Does that matter?


They will need to swap your splinter for a green label.

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 06:55 PM

Like dpeters11 said, DECA boxes at all but 24 and 25's. Since its difficult for you to get your internet connected to the DECA cloud, Consider using the new WCCK that just came out. It is basically a wireless DECA that connects to your router wirelessly and then to your DECA cloud. Check out the link below. You can order it right from directv's website by logging into your account.

http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=193851

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 06:57 PM

One additional note;

Even if you choose to use DECA it will still be listed as an "unsupported" install by DIRECTV unless you have them do it.

Which means all future troubleshooting and other support for it lies with you.


For some reason I was thinking he was getting educated before having DirecTV do the install, but I was wrong.

Not necessarily a deal breaker, it's quite reliable once setup, and you always have us to help where we can. But you would need to have DirecTV activate it in unsupported if you do the install. Still $3 a month though.

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 07:01 PM

For some reason I was thinking he was getting educated before having DirecTV do the install, but I was wrong.

Not necessarily a deal breaker, it's quite reliable once setup, and you always have us to help where we can. But you would need to have DirecTV activate it in unsupported if you do the install. Still $3 a month though.


Yes, I'm to trying to educated to see if I want/can do this or if I should have DirectTV install it. I guess it comes down to cost. The price of picking everything (I guess 4 DECA's and a green splitter) on my own compared to just have DirectTV come out.

Thanks everyone!
Slimline5.....SWM 8.....SWS-8 8 way splitter
PI feeds SWS-8 splitter and HR 21-100 in Media Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Family Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12 wireless ethernet connection via Linksys WET610N
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Master Bedroom 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds H 21-100 in Guest Bedroom 0x45d2 3:27am 6/27/12

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Posted 30 July 2011 - 07:22 PM

Yes, I'm to trying to educated to see if I want/can do this or if I should have DirectTV install it. I guess it comes down to cost. The price of picking everything (I guess 4 DECA's and a green splitter) on my own compared to just have DirectTV come out.

Thanks everyone!


Well, actually as dpeters11 says "its not a total loss" to DIY and go as "unsupported" as you have many good people on this site to help you. And considering that unless you have DIRECTV's "Protection Plan," after 90 days of the installation (I think), you're on your own for any future problems anyhow.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 10:01 AM

Well, actually as dpeters11 says "its not a total loss" to DIY and go as "unsupported" as you have many good people on this site to help you. And considering that unless you have DIRECTV's "Protection Plan," after 90 days of the installation (I think), you're on your own for any future problems anyhow.


No I do not have the protection plan.
Slimline5.....SWM 8.....SWS-8 8 way splitter
PI feeds SWS-8 splitter and HR 21-100 in Media Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Family Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12 wireless ethernet connection via Linksys WET610N
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Master Bedroom 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds H 21-100 in Guest Bedroom 0x45d2 3:27am 6/27/12

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:03 PM

Yes, thanks....I keep forgetting that I don't really need the internet connection.

Not sure about unsupported or official DECA....can you let me know the difference? I just want to be able to play back recordings on the HD receiver and the other HD DVRs. Thanks!!

You are NEVER going to download a movie?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 01:09 PM

You are NEVER going to download a movie?


Probably not. I've had a Linksys Wireless WET610N Bridge hooked to my main viewing tv right for almost two years and have never downloaded a movie. I've watched a few Youtube videos but that is it. I'm more into sports than movies.
Slimline5.....SWM 8.....SWS-8 8 way splitter
PI feeds SWS-8 splitter and HR 21-100 in Media Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Family Room 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12 wireless ethernet connection via Linksys WET610N
SWS-8 splitter feeds HR 22-100 in Master Bedroom 0x62c 3:59am 12/18/12
SWS-8 splitter feeds H 21-100 in Guest Bedroom 0x45d2 3:27am 6/27/12




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