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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR34-700 Home Media Center HD DVR


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#226 OFFLINE   David Ortiz

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 05:00 PM

With the new fall season on the networks the most I have had recording at one time is three shows and that happened three times for three shows total this week.


There are many shows that have not premiered yet this fall....

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 05:44 PM

Great job on the First Look! :)
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:19 PM

Even if there is not a purchase there will be owned units out there meaning we should be able to own them at some point. This one may be worth leasing. For me it will really depend on if they want to jack up the monthly fee or not. I want it for one TV and one TV only. I dont use MRV so if its close to the same as the others on monthly fees then fine if not then I wont waste my time.


I won't say there won't be owned units but I can say that I think this might start a new trend of leased only. Even on account where all equipment was previously owned. This is just speculation but it wouldn't be a surprise to hear this happens.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:27 PM

I won't say there won't be owned units but I can say that I think this might start a new trend of leased only. Even on account where all equipment was previously owned. This is just speculation but it wouldn't be a surprise to hear this happens.


I believe you may be right. This is a whole new class of receiver. Employee accounts or not, I suspect these will all be leased.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:28 PM

I believe you may be right. This is a whole new class of receiver. Employee accounts or not, I suspect these will all be leased.


Except the ones already out there that are owned...

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:41 PM

5 tuners. Should have been 8, max out the swm.
Clients consume a tuner.
Single drive. Single point of failure. Host locks up all clients go down.

Some may like it, just not for me.


Yup, I don't see the need.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:42 PM

I could replace an HR21 with one of these babies and max out my SWiM16 with all that I have. Hmmmmm...

Or take an H24 and an H25 out of my lineup.


I'd need another SWM 16, I think.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:48 PM

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Wow :eek2:

Where's Rich? I bet he wants 12 of them. :grin:


I don't think I want one. I'd fill up that drive far too quickly. I already have 24 tuners available.

Let me read on. I'm having Internet problems and I didn't see this thread yesterday, just noticed it.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:51 PM

!rolling !rolling !rolling Each of them with a 2TB eSATA . . .


I think I have nine 2TBs at this moment. Had trouble with a 24-500 (leased) and I just use it as a client with the stock internal drive. Couldn't get an external HDD to work with it.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:52 PM

I'd need another SWM 16, I think.

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I'm surprised you aren't already at SWiM32 stage yet. :lol:
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:54 PM

I think your right on that. thought about it soon as i posted that. lol


Yeah, I've got two SWM16s and one cascades onto the other one using the legacy ports. Guess I could cascade another 16. But why?

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 06:55 PM

I'm surprised you aren't already at SWiM32 stage yet. :lol:


I think I've always been there. I have two 16s, one cascaded onto the other one.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:00 PM

Except the ones already out there that are owned...


The number of them that are owned from the FT is insignificant.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:01 PM

When I called into retention yesterday to upgrade to MRV, the CSR mentioned a HR34 was coming out soon. I had no idea what he was talking about but then tonight I see this thread. Sounds very nice.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:23 PM

I see it has a SATA port on the back wall. I trust that will be for up to 2TB drives, is that correct?

I'm trying to think of a reason to want one of these. I guess I'll wait until it's in general use and ask my questions then. It looks interesting, but I'm not sure what I'd use it for.

Just from reading this thread, it seems like my system as it is configured now is still more than I need and is more flexible than this new model.

I'm not trying to denigrate this, just understand it. It seems to be "putting all your eggs in one basket" without the cushion of other HRs for backup.

Too many questions to ponder. I think I'll go to bed and give this some thought.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:25 PM

I don't think I want one. I'd fill up that drive far too quickly. I already have 24 tuners available.

Let me read on. I'm having Internet problems and I didn't see this thread yesterday, just noticed it.

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You will be wanting to replace your 12 2T HR20-700s with 12 2TB HR34-700s before too long...
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:28 PM

Why would it be lease only? Someone posted earlier that they would surely want them all back so they would be leased. What do you think we are doing with owned ones??? They stay in the system, or "they get them back", just on a different account. They are useless for anything else other than a D* system so they aren't going anywhere. Nobody is going to pay the cost to own one just so they can take the drive out of it and use it in their computer.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:33 PM

I'm trying to think of a reason to want one of these.


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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:41 PM

PIP, 5 tuners...MAYBE support for a 3TB drive (although Im not crossing my fingers). It would be great for sports.

BTW, on DLB, does it cycle through all 5, or just the first two?

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:44 PM

...BTW, on DLB, does it cycle through all 5, or just the first two?

same as HR2x, but the swap is instantaneous.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:46 PM

same as HR2x, but the swap is instantaneous.


Thats cool. Never understood with SWM why the HR2x isnt instantaneous as well.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:52 PM

I love this box for the PIP.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:22 PM

Thats cool. Never understood with SWM why the HR2x isnt instantaneous as well.


Because SWiM has nothing to do with the swapping speed - both tuners are getting uninterrupted streams of data from the dish regardless of whether you're swapping back and forth between them. The speed difference has to be attributed to how fast the host box (HR34 or HR2x) can switch from one stream going through the video processor and being displayed to the other. I guess with the HR34 being designed from the outset to handle two concurrent full-bitrate video streams and compositing them in realtime, swapping the display from one to the other (or swapping them in PIP) is just naturally faster. In other words, the display architecture is newer/better.

And yeah, swapping IS really fast. :)

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:57 PM

For those of you that have this, can you confirm that this can handle a total of 11 channels/streams at once. For example, according to the specs you should be able to:

Record 5 shows at once
Record 1 video on demand
Have 3 recorded streams go to the MRV or RVU clients
Have 2 streams output to the local tv

By my count that's 11 total things at once, can it really do all that without any glitches?

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:03 PM

Now that I think about it, with the new GUI, it will be total BS if they don't offer PIP for the current HR2X's. They have 2 tuners. Use them. The ULTIMATE TV FROM MICROSOFT IN 2001 had this as a feature.




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