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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR34-700 Home Media Center HD DVR


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#241 OFFLINE   matt

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:25 PM

I don't think I want one. I'd fill up that drive far too quickly. I already have 24 tuners available.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:28 PM

Why would it be lease only? Someone posted earlier that they would surely want them all back so they would be leased. What do you think we are doing with owned ones??? They stay in the system, or "they get them back", just on a different account. They are useless for anything else other than a D* system so they aren't going anywhere. Nobody is going to pay the cost to own one just so they can take the drive out of it and use it in their computer.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:33 PM

I'm trying to think of a reason to want one of these.


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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:41 PM

PIP, 5 tuners...MAYBE support for a 3TB drive (although Im not crossing my fingers). It would be great for sports.

BTW, on DLB, does it cycle through all 5, or just the first two?

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:44 PM

...BTW, on DLB, does it cycle through all 5, or just the first two?

same as HR2x, but the swap is instantaneous.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:46 PM

same as HR2x, but the swap is instantaneous.


Thats cool. Never understood with SWM why the HR2x isnt instantaneous as well.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:52 PM

I love this box for the PIP.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:22 PM

Thats cool. Never understood with SWM why the HR2x isnt instantaneous as well.


Because SWiM has nothing to do with the swapping speed - both tuners are getting uninterrupted streams of data from the dish regardless of whether you're swapping back and forth between them. The speed difference has to be attributed to how fast the host box (HR34 or HR2x) can switch from one stream going through the video processor and being displayed to the other. I guess with the HR34 being designed from the outset to handle two concurrent full-bitrate video streams and compositing them in realtime, swapping the display from one to the other (or swapping them in PIP) is just naturally faster. In other words, the display architecture is newer/better.

And yeah, swapping IS really fast. :)

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:57 PM

For those of you that have this, can you confirm that this can handle a total of 11 channels/streams at once. For example, according to the specs you should be able to:

Record 5 shows at once
Record 1 video on demand
Have 3 recorded streams go to the MRV or RVU clients
Have 2 streams output to the local tv

By my count that's 11 total things at once, can it really do all that without any glitches?

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:03 PM

Now that I think about it, with the new GUI, it will be total BS if they don't offer PIP for the current HR2X's. They have 2 tuners. Use them. The ULTIMATE TV FROM MICROSOFT IN 2001 had this as a feature.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:06 PM

Now that I think about it, with the new GUI, it will be total BS if they don't offer PIP for the current HR2X's. They have 2 tuners. Use them. The ULTIMATE TV FROM MICROSOFT IN 2001 had this as a feature.


PIP is mostly a function of the display and video compositing/overlay chipset. The HR34 has a more advanced video subsystem than does the HR2x line.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:08 PM

For those of you that have this, can you confirm that this can handle a total of 11 channels/streams at once. For example, according to the specs you should be able to:

Record 5 shows at once
Record 1 video on demand
Have 3 recorded streams go to the MRV or RVU clients
Have 2 streams output to the local tv

By my count that's 11 total things at once, can it really do all that without any glitches?


Yep, that's the math. It does work just fine.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:09 PM

PIP is mostly a function of the display and video compositing/overlay chipset. The HR34 has a more advanced video subsystem than does the HR2x line.


So you are trying to convince me that the current HR2X line does not have a more advanced chipset than the UltimateTV receivers offered by DTV manufactured by Microsoft and Sony back in 2001? (It was actually Oct 2000. I looked it up.)

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:21 PM

One might give a slight practical advantage to the Comcast unit as each client is a fully functional receiver so it doesn't consume a DVR tuner to watch live TV.


I think it would be a huge selling point to add the RVU functionality to one of the current HD receivers (probably the H25 due to its size.) This would allow the capability of accessing the full HR34 DVR abilities while not "borrowing" an HR34 tuner when watching live Tv from the remote location. That possibility also adds a bit of redundancy for viewing should the HR34 go down.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:30 PM

I think it would be a huge selling point to add the RVU functionality to one of the current HD receivers (probably the H25 due to its size.) This would allow the capability of accessing the full HR34 DVR abilities while not "borrowing" an HR34 tuner when watching live Tv from the remote location. That possibility also adds a bit of redundancy for viewing should the HR34 go down.

With question of whether it would be able to RVU and MRV.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:33 PM

Now that I think about it, with the new GUI, it will be total BS if they don't offer PIP for the current HR2X's. They have 2 tuners. Use them. The ULTIMATE TV FROM MICROSOFT IN 2001 had this as a feature.


Yeah, that was a roaring success. :nono2:
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:38 PM

Yeah, that was a roaring success. :nono2:

+1

PIP is really only useful in larger screen HDTVs anyway...and even then...not everyone wants/needs it.

Still, some do want it of course, and it comes down to personal preference.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:41 PM

So you are trying to convince me that the current HR2X line does not have a more advanced chipset than the UltimateTV receivers offered by DTV manufactured by Microsoft and Sony back in 2001? (It was actually Oct 2000. I looked it up.)


I don't have to "convince" you of anything. The HR2x boxes have been out since 2006 and people have been clamoring for PIP ever since they knew they would contain dual tuners. The chipset just doesn't support it. If it did, Directv would have enabled and supported it - it would have been a TREMENDOUS selling point, especially given Directv's long-standing commitment to be seen as a sports programming leader.

The chipset in the HR34 DOES support it. And it's great. :)

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:43 PM

With question of whether it would be able to RVU and MRV.


I think it would require a pretty substantial S/W change on the H25, but believe it would be possible. Since most will need to add a box (C30) for RVU functionality, it would be terrific if you could add an RVU device that also had an internal tuner for live watching.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:47 PM

I can't wait to get one.
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