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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR34-700 Home Media Center HD DVR


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#126 OFFLINE   Steve

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:15 AM

What are the physical dimensions of the box? I see in the picture that it is larger than the HR24 but not by much and I didn't see actual dimensions listed anywhere. I'm trying to figure out whether this will fit in a 2U rackmount slot like the HR24 or if it will require 3U.

Approximately 16"x12"x3". If you need precise, let me know. I'll have to pull it off the shelf to measure.
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#127 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:15 AM

I think you'll need 3U. I can measure it when I get home.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:22 AM

So, how is this going to be leased? To simplify things, let's say that I am not using MRV, so just the HD DVR fees. Is there going to be a special charge for "advanced DVR" or some such? Or can I actually save some money off my bill? Is there some way to avoid a new purchase/lease fee by returning other leased units?
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:22 AM

Carl, check your eyes :)

Composite Video is right there under the Component Video Outputs


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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:25 AM

I just got these dimensions from someone sitting in front of an HR34:

15.75" x 12.5" x 3.25"
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:27 AM

To me this box is a lot more useful if the software is updated to allow for categories or something similar on recorded shows. This would still allow the kids to view all of their recorded shows in one playlist, me in another, my wife in another, etc. Any word on whether that is coming, or do you have to view all recorded shows in one list. Also, any word on whether there is a search function for the playlist? Thanks.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:30 AM

To me this box is a lot more useful if the software is updated to allow for categories or something similar on recorded shows. This would still allow the kids to view all of their recorded shows in one playlist, me in another, my wife in another, etc. Any word on whether that is coming, or do you have to view all recorded shows in one list. Also, any word on whether there is a search function for the playlist? Thanks.

It currently has the same playlist category filtering as the HR2x's.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:44 AM

Yes. I only have one TV, so the MRV thing is lost on me, but I do like bunches of tuners. I take it that this would match my SWM5 and replace my HR21 and HR20. If I add an AM21, how many tuners can get OTA?


Two ATSC channels, and adding the AM21 doesn't mean you can record 7 things at once, still limited to 5 concurrent.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:46 AM

I just got these dimensions from someone sitting in front of an HR34:

15.75" x 12.5" x 3.25"


Thanks! 2U = 3.5" so hopefully Middle Atlantic will make it a 2U faceplate. My two HR24s take up 4 slots. I don't think I have room for 2 more slots if I replace them with HR34s!

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:49 AM

The other thing you need to know is that these receivers primarily vent out the side... see the first look for a view of the box fan. So if you're going to rack mount you may want to take that into consideration.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:53 AM

Another excellent First Look.

I've been wanting to upgrade one of my HR-20's(failed HD - esata only) to an HR-24 for quite some time. Hopefully, DTV will get these out "mainstream" pretty quick. I'll save my "Nomad money" for one of these.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:54 AM

This looks great as everybody has mentioned .I probably would like to add in near future if clients become available or if my HR20-700 goes south .Just recently had added HR24-100 and moved the 20 to 2nd location and still have H24-100 on 3rd set on whole house set up.Still could be nice to consolidate or just add this to my system especially with the series total and not to forget Pin P feature.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:20 AM

The price is $399 sans promotions/rebates.

I'll get 2 of them to replace the 4 HD DVR's I have that do nothing but sports. It will save me on electricity and home theatre real estate.


Whats sans promotions/rebates and where did this information come from? Also I wonder what the price will be to own one.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:20 AM

Just to explain what I am hoping for...
As DirecTV moves towards larger hard drives and 100 season passes, playlists become very difficult to use. In the same way as we have multiple Favorites lists (and search) for the guide, something similar is needed for playlists. For instance, I would like to set up several playlist categories/favorites such as "Kids" (for my young kids), "Teens" (for my 14 year old), and "Me". Each time I record something, I will specify the playlist(s) I want it associated with. Then each member of the family can go in and select their playlist to see their recorded shows. There should also be a search function.
This is the number one improvement I would like to see from DirecTV, and I believe it is more important as we consolidate onto fewer (or one) receiver with MRV. I am hoping to get support on this from the masses, as I believe it will improve the viewing experience for families quite a bit. Thanks.

To me this box is a lot more useful if the software is updated to allow for categories or something similar on recorded shows. This would still allow the kids to view all of their recorded shows in one playlist, me in another, my wife in another, etc. Any word on whether that is coming, or do you have to view all recorded shows in one list. Also, any word on whether there is a search function for the playlist? Thanks.



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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:24 AM

The first look got me all excited THANK YOU!

So let me understand how this works.. I currently have SWIM (8) Whole HOME DVR service with 3 HD DVRS (R22 - HR24 & HR23) Total of 6 tuners being used. So If I want to add the HR34, it would use 5 tuners, so I would need to eliminate my other receivers or extended my SWIM capability to 16?


Does DTV have RVU receivers? Do these receivers use up any tuners?

THANK You for all your help.. I'm exited.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:25 AM

Also I wonder what the price will be to own one.


One arm and both legs. From the ACDT an HR2x is $562 and change so you can imagine, probably $1k+.

Just like all the others eventually owned ones will pop up but based on the way HR24s sold second hand I would bet an owned HR34 *right now* would bring $800 on ebay easily, eventually settling down to around the $500 mark, with better deals popping up from time to time.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:27 AM

Nice First Look, but why was the C30 RVU client the test team used not included in the review?

Also, while happy with the FL for the HR34 at least, not so happy with its release information known so far posted in the other thread.

HR34 price: $399.00 lease fee minus any possible promotional discounts.

Initial release date: 10/13, to new customers only in six test markets

Austin, Texas
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Fresno, California
Phoenix, Arizona
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Salt Lake City, Utah

Release date for existing customers: 2012

Oh well ... looks like still another 4-5 months wait to go for us existing subs. :(

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:33 AM

Okay, I ranted and raved a little bit about lack of flexibility as compared to a MythTV setup before, and I thought the HR34 would have only 4 tuners. But I am beginning to see where the HR34 would be a perfect fit in my home, albeit still not as flexible or unified as the potential MythTV setup I really want.

I would get 2 of them (one each for myself and my wife, located at our primary viewing locations in the living room and family room), an H2x box or two (for the MBR and a possible 2nd BR), a SWM16 switch, re-convert my dish back to the 4-output LNB assembly from the SWMLine LNB, and a pair of fast 2TB SATA drives in eSATA enclosures for storage on each of the HR34s. One HR34 would be "mine" and I could manage it easily enough from my primary viewing location in the family room. The other HR34 would belong to my wife and she could manage it from her primary viewing location in the living room. The MBR would get an H2x box to get live feeds and to watch recordings from either of the HR34s. Another BR *might* get another H2x in the future, depending on if we turn that room into a full guest BR or not.

I currently have a trio of HR20s running MRV in unsupported mode using my home LAN to shuttle shows from box to box, so I have no DECA equipment at all. I mention this because I have a few questions:

First, if I decide to make this move when the HR34 becomes available, I'm assuming it will have DECA built in?

Second, if DECA is built in and I want to bridge the DECA system into my home LAN, would I need to supply a DECA adapter or could I simply plug one of the HR34 boxes into my home LAN, instead?

Lastly, what H2x receiver should I be looking at getting for the BRs to have DECA built-in, as well?

As always, this community rocks. Thank you in advance.

EDIT: Nevermind about my first and last question... I answered both of those after a lot of searching and reading. However, I think I can safely assume that I need the DECA broadband adapter (and a bandpass filter or two) to get the entire setup bridged to my home LAN, which was my second question above.

Edited by racermd, 07 October 2011 - 01:26 PM.


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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:34 AM

Nice First Look, but why was the C30 RVU client the test team used not included in the review?

Also, while happy with the FL for the HR34 at least, not so happy with its release information known so far posted in the other thread.

HR34 price: $399.00 lease fee minus any possible promotional discounts.

Initial release date: 10/13, to new customers only in six test markets

Austin, Texas
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Fresno, California
Phoenix, Arizona
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Salt Lake City, Utah

Release date for existing customers: 2012

Oh well ... looks like still another 4-5 months wait to go for us existing subs. :(



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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:35 AM

Nice First Look, but why was the C30 RVU client the test team used not included in the review?

Also, while happy with the FL for the HR34 at least, not so happy with its release information known so far posted in the other thread.

HR34 price: $399.00 lease fee minus any possible promotional discounts.

Initial release date: 10/13, to new customers only in six test markets

Austin, Texas
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Fresno, California
Phoenix, Arizona
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Salt Lake City, Utah

Release date for existing customers: 2012

Oh well ... looks like still another 4-5 months wait to go for us existing subs. :(



Thanks for the test markets - I had forgotten which ones during the initial MRV rollout.

Will this be a self-install? Since I bat about 33% with adequate installers, I would prefer to do it myself.

Will it be available thru Solid signal?

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:40 AM

I don't think that's been decided yet.
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:42 AM

Just so I have this straight, there are 5 different streaming options from the HR34:

1. Stream to another HR device with MRV (benefit is local tuner and local trick play for live tv and local recordings, downside is that from the HR, you can't control the recordings of the HR 34)

2. Stream to another H device (benefit is local tuner and you can control recordings of HR34, downside is no trick play for live tv using local tuner).

3. Stream to an RVU device (benefit is trick play for live tv and control of recordings on HR34, downside is no local tuner (but generally a moot point since 5 tuners in HR34)

4. Stream to PC (can only view recorded programs (although that could include a "live" recording, no control of recordings on HR34)

5. Stream to Nomad

From what I understand, there are a maximum of 3 streams for all 5 options above, and items 1 - 4 are on a first-come, first serve basis. I.e., if you try under any of the first 4 options to get a stream and 3 are in use, you'll get a busy signal.

For #5, streaming to Nomad will occur as long as 2 or fewer streams are occuring to the first 4 types of devices. Otherwise, once stream 3 is requested by one of those 4, the nomad will pause.

Also, from what I've read I think these are the limits of what could connect to the HR34:

Items 1, 2, & 4 (HR, H, and PC): I think up to a maximum of 15 other devices can connect (for a big house, but note only 3 streams available at any one time)

Item 3 (RVU): I think up to 8

Item 5 (Nomad): In theory, one could try to connect up to 3 nomad, each to capture one of the 3 streams available. That could be helpful in a house where more than one person wanted to watch things on the go, is this possible or can you only connect 1 nomad?

So in theory, I think there could be a maximum of 26 other devices (even though I doubt anyone would get near that limit) connected to the HR34 for streaming.

Anyone have any thoughts to the contrary on this?

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:59 AM

Not enough e's in sweeeeeeeeet to describe this new box.

Wish I was in one of the test markets for this. Ah well. I can wait...sort of...maybe...:D
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 10:11 AM

This thing has got to be the best DVR on the market.

Except that it isn't on the market yet.

It will probably be the best DIRECTV DVR on the market once it becomes "on the market". The market is already populated with similarly functional DVRs from FIOS, AT&T and Comcast (AnyRoom DVR). One might give a slight practical advantage to the Comcast unit as each client is a fully functional receiver so it doesn't consume a DVR tuner to watch live TV.

For $400 + a yet-to-be-announced monthly fee, it needs to be awfully good.

It will be interesting to see how it all works out once populated with client devices (assuming such clients make an appearance in appreciable quantities).

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 10:13 AM

Not enough e's in sweeeeeeeeet to describe this new box.

Only needed 2 to do the First Look! :P
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