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#251 OFFLINE   sigma1914

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:08 PM

So do I, but I do not think that is what he meant. I interpreted his post as saying they get free iTunes APPs that they would normally have to pay for, or free service that they would normally have to pay for.


They like free apps that are like paid apps...I don't know if they're getting iTunes apps for free. I'm not an iUser so I'm not sure about it all.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:14 PM

Sounds a lot more complicated then IOS. When you say custom rom. I assume you mean that you are flashing the boot rom...

rooting and flashing a custom recovery is as easy as jailbreaking an iOS device. Flashing a new OS increases your effort a bit, but isn't complicated at all.

Backup apps will even run to restore all of your apps and settings for you.

Rooting, Roming and restoring the apps on my Thunderbolt took 30 minutes. I rooted my wife's Incredible and froze all of her crap apps in 5.

#253 OFFLINE   dualsub2006

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:15 PM

So do I, but I do not think that is what he meant. I interpreted his post as saying they get free iTunes APPs that they would normally have to pay for, or free service that they would normally have to pay for.


Pirated apps isn't your intent with jailbreaking, but I know a number of people that do it for just that reason.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:32 PM

So you jailbreak you iPad so you can get apps that you cannot get otherwise(or other reasons), you make a choice to do that knowing that there will then be apps that you cannot get.

It really sounds like you need to decide what is more important and be happy with that decision. Remember it's a choice you made.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:59 PM

So you jailbreak you iPad so you can get apps that you cannot get otherwise(or other reasons), you make a choice to do that knowing that there will then be apps that you cannot get.

It really sounds like you need to decide what is more important and be happy with that decision. Remember it's a choice you made.

No one is denying it is a choice. No one is denying that DirecTV has the right to restrict the use of their APP. No one is denying that there are costs and benefits to JB and not JB.

What we are arguing is the reasons for DirecTV restricting their APP is based in ignorance and unfounded fear.

What we are arguing is that they are fighting a losing battle.

What we are arguing is that given all of this there is really no justified reason for them to restrict their APP, other than fear of something they know nothing about; or other than the fact that they can.

Think about it. Every argument on DirecTVs side of this has been one of the following:

1. It is their APP they can do so if they want
2. JB can steal their stream
3. JB do so in order to get free stuff

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:24 PM

No one is denying it is a choice. No one is denying that DirecTV has the right to restrict the use of their APP. No one is denying that there are costs and benefits to JB and not JB.

What we are arguing is the reasons for DirecTV restricting their APP is based in ignorance and unfounded fear.

What we are arguing is that they are fighting a losing battle.

What we are arguing is that given all of this there is really no justified reason for them to restrict their APP, other than fear of something they know nothing about; or other than the fact that they can.

Think about it. Every argument on DirecTVs side of this has been one of the following:

1. It is their APP they can do so if they want
2. JB can steal their stream
3. JB do so in order to get free stuff


The funniest thing about it is that directv isn't concentrating on protecting the actual streem.. Instead they are fighting it in a way that gives then no legal recourse... It's not ilegal to hide the fact that your device is jailbroken... They are waisting their time.... Encrypt... It's the only way to fly.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:29 AM

No one is denying it is a choice. No one is denying that DirecTV has the right to restrict the use of their APP. No one is denying that there are costs and benefits to JB and not JB.

What we are arguing is the reasons for DirecTV restricting their APP is based in ignorance and unfounded fear.

What we are arguing is that they are fighting a losing battle.

What we are arguing is that given all of this there is really no justified reason for them to restrict their APP, other than fear of something they know nothing about; or other than the fact that they can.

Think about it. Every argument on DirecTVs side of this has been one of the following:

1. It is their APP they can do so if they want
2. JB can steal their stream
3. JB do so in order to get free stuff


You make it seem like there is an official DIRECTV statement on this. If so, I'd like to see it.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:53 AM

Think about it. Every argument on DirecTVs side of this has been one of the following:

1. It is their APP they can do so if they want
2. JB can steal their stream
3. JB do so in order to get free stuff

Actually as I have stated earlier in this thread, these are the reasons: (NOTE: This is still not official from DirecTV. Just what I have been able to gather.)

1. The content on the app IS protected via DRM.
2. This app isn't just one provider. DirecTV licenses the content from SEVERAL providers and they don't all have the same rules thus a lock must be placed on the entire app.
3. Just because the good people here at DBSTalk do not steal content doesn't mean other jail breakers are NOT doing it.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:00 PM

You make it seem like there is an official DIRECTV statement on this. If so, I'd like to see it.

Arguments of those posters on this site on the DirecTVs side of the argument. Not the argument from DirecTV itself.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:04 PM

Actually as I have stated earlier in this thread, these are the reasons: (NOTE: This is still not official from DirecTV. Just what I have been able to gather.)

1. The content on the app IS protected via DRM.

JB is not relevant to this

2. This app isn't just one provider. DirecTV licenses the content from SEVERAL providers and they don't all have the same rules thus a lock must be placed on the entire app.

What is the relevance to JB?

3. Just because the good people here at DBSTalk do not steal content doesn't mean other jail breakers are NOT doing it.

Again, JB is not relevant. One does not need to JB in order to steal. Protecting against JB does absolutely nothing to protect theft of their stream. They are fighting the wrong battle and will lose ever single time.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:45 AM

Do you have statistics to back up this claim? I know many honest people jailbreak for Cydia but I'm sure many others do it to pirate software. You just can't ignore it. I get skeptical when people say the most users jailbreak just to use Cydia.


Then your have ZERO idea what your talking about in this conversation. It know this is your site, but your comments don't belong in this thread, with a comment like that.

Do you even KNOW what jailbreaking is? Jailbreaking is NOTHING BUT adding Cydia app store to your phone, period. When you jailbreak your phone, CYDIA is installed. Then form there, you can access illegal sources that MIGHT contribute to piracy. If you install this source, Cydia WARNS you its illegal and does not recommend it and warns you its could have treats in it.

SSH your phone is a way into the file system. This can be down with apps SOLD through the official Apple App store. Once your device s jailbroken, then this official apps will allow you in the file system.

Sorry, but jail breaking is NOT about stealing apps or piracy. Its about an alternative App store, that makes the iPhone the bet smart phone, period. Without it, I would not use an iPhone or any iOS device.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:51 AM

Actually as I have stated earlier in this thread, these are the reasons: (NOTE: This is still not official from DirecTV. Just what I have been able to gather.)

1. The content on the app IS protected via DRM.
2. This app isn't just one provider. DirecTV licenses the content from SEVERAL providers and they don't all have the same rules thus a lock must be placed on the entire app.
3. Just because the good people here at DBSTalk do not steal content doesn't mean other jail breakers are NOT doing it.


I have never heard on any app for downloading stream content form a IOS device from any jail breaking source.

maybe if DIRECTV was not fearful and actually UNDERSTOOD the JB process, who would not have this problem. Do a Google search. I searched many JB forum and cydia to see. Nothing.

This is a simple matter for DIRECTV:

Allow the app on all devices! Disable LIVE Stream on any JB device. Now everyone is happy. The cat and Mouse game is a losing game for directv and a waste of mine and resources. Apple can't stop it and you think D* will? :lol:

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:51 AM

I have never heard on any app for downloading stream content form a IOS device from any jail breaking source.


It's not a single app that you use to rip the stream, it involves a couple of apps and capturing to a computer. Its a lot more work than I would want to go through to accomplish something that could more easily be done other ways, but it can be done.

I'm not posting links to what I read, but I'm sure you can find the info on your own if you want to.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:18 PM

It's not a single app that you use to rip the stream, it involves a couple of apps and capturing to a computer. Its a lot more work than I would want to go through to accomplish something that could more easily be done other ways, but it can be done.

I'm not posting links to what I read, but I'm sure you can find the info on your own if you want to.


Ok, but I have ZERO desire. Never hared of anyone doing it and I tried Google with nothing.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:27 PM

Then your have ZERO idea what your talking about in this conversation. It know this is your site, but your comments don't belong in this thread, with a comment like that.

Calm down buddy. It was just a question. Geesh!

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:31 AM

Ok, but I have ZERO desire. Never hared of anyone doing it and I tried Google with nothing.


OK, but this isn't just about you and me. There ARE people who do it.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 03:19 PM

Calm down buddy. It was just a question. Geesh!


ok :nono2:.

But you did not state a question. What you stated is wrong and what your stated shows your ignorance when it comes to JB an iOS device.

But as the owner of this site and when we are are discussing JB and DIRECTV, I think you would be more cautious or informed before making a comment.

I know your thoughts don't reflect DIRECTVs views or other MODs here. But when I hear who you guys think, makes my wonder if DIRECTV really has a clue when it comes to this stuff too.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 03:19 PM

OK, but this isn't just about you and me. There ARE people who do it.


Sure and I get that.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:17 AM

Hello seems like the last post of this thread was quite some time ago, but this is still a problem.

First time poster here, been reading through this thread and searching all over the web to try to DOWNGRADE my DirectTV app because of the same reason everyone else is on this forum. I have an iPhone and an iPad jailbroken on firmware 6.1 and of course DirectTV SUX and keeps forcing us to update to the latest version which does not work on jailbroken devices (which is dumb anyways and I dont understand why).

My question is. Since there is a new tweak on CYDIA called Xcon Alias that will make older Direct TV app think that its already updated, where can I download the older version? I am not trying to PIRATE It so dont flame me for asking, and its a free app so this has nothing to do with pirating anything. All I want is the old app that way Xcon Alias can do its job.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:14 PM

Xcon v38 beta 2 works with today's versions of DirecTV for iPad and iPhone on iOS 6.1.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:10 AM

Unfortunately that tweak that makes Directv app work, but renders other apps that use any mapping useless. (i.e. Zillow, Weather channel app)

Not sure where to post to the developer on that, tried to tweet that to him, no response.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:16 AM

Unfortunately that tweak that makes Directv app work, but renders other apps that use any mapping useless. (i.e. Zillow, Weather channel app)

Not sure where to post to the developer on that, tried to tweet that to him, no response.


I don't know what the policy is on posting direct links, so I will PM you the forum on Github where the discussions are taking place.

- > Link to my setup thread< -

My  DirecTV HD WISHLIST:  NickJR, Nicktoons, Revolt.TV, FXM, We, Oxygen, The Hub, Fuse, GSN, Sprout, GAC, Esquire, BBC World News, Sundance, Up, Music Choice Play HD, Al Jazeera America, Military Channel, NASA

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:41 AM

Got it, thanks!
Posted the issue there.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:00 AM

Hello seems like the last post of this thread was quite some time ago, but this is still a problem.

First time poster here, been reading through this thread and searching all over the web to try to DOWNGRADE my DirectTV app because of the same reason everyone else is on this forum. I have an iPhone and an iPad jailbroken on firmware 6.1 and of course DirectTV SUX and keeps forcing us to update to the latest version which does not work on jailbroken devices (which is dumb anyways and I dont understand why).

My question is. Since there is a new tweak on CYDIA called Xcon Alias that will make older Direct TV app think that its already updated, where can I download the older version? I am not trying to PIRATE It so dont flame me for asking, and its a free app so this has nothing to do with pirating anything. All I want is the old app that way Xcon Alias can do its job.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.


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DirecTV does not force you to update their app. Just like all other apps on iOS, you don't have to download an update if you don't want to.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:48 PM

Unfortunately that tweak that makes Directv app work, but renders other apps that use any mapping useless. (i.e. Zillow, Weather channel app)

Not sure where to post to the developer on that, tried to tweet that to him, no response.

Including my Vulkano app




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