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HR34 Discussion/Anticipation thread


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#51 OFFLINE   turkeylord

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 04:38 PM

Well, I was referring to hardware upgrade, but yeah, that too :/

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#52 OFFLINE   El Gabito

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 07:51 AM

My biggest problem with this (and DirecTV in general) is how they get away with charging you a "lease fee" up front ON TOP OF a monthly lease fee.

I'd love to get this - but I'm currently testing a Tivo Premiere Elite (2TB HD, four tuners + 1 live stream, THX certified) which I purchased for $499.99 (minus 12% discount - so actually $440). I OWN this unit. It will cost $20/mo or $499.99 for lifetime service of Tivo.

I just can't see justifying $400 for something you have to return if you decide to cancel, move where dish isn't feasible, get tired of nickel and diming, etc.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:25 AM

I don't see what the big deal is over owned vs. leased equipment. All it means is that every few years when new technology comes out you now have a piece of obsolete equipment that it's up to you to get rid of. I have numerous old receivers such as HR10-250s that are owned sitting around my basement. I tried to get DIRECTV to take them back and dispose of them properly, but since they are owned they wouldn't touch them. They have no street value and can't just be thrown in the garbage, so they become fancy dust collectors.

In reality, I suspect very few people will actually pay $399 for an HR34 except those who have to have the latest technology first. New customers or existing customers who are eligible for equipment upgrades (or willing to wait until they are eligible) should get them for a considerable discount if not for free.

I used to be a big fan of TiVo, but when I look at how much their per unit subscription cost is now, plus what it would cost to have cable cards and service, it quickly becomes more expensive than DIRECTV when you want DVR functionality on every TV.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:45 AM

My biggest problem with this (and DirecTV in general) is how they get away with charging you a "lease fee" up front ON TOP OF a monthly lease fee.

They figure if they didn't charge an entry fee, everyone would expect an HD DVR.

The other option would be to charge more monthly for the advanced equipment like everyone else in the marketplace does.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 11:38 AM

I can't wait for the HR34. I've been contemplating upgrading my old HR20-700 (and various other old receivers), to an MRV and SWiM setup, but I'm going to hold out until I can get one of these beasts as the centerpiece.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 12:09 AM

I don't see what the big deal is over owned vs. leased equipment. All it means is that every few years when new technology comes out you now have a piece of obsolete equipment that it's up to you to get rid of. I have numerous old receivers such as HR10-250s that are owned sitting around my basement. I tried to get DIRECTV to take them back and dispose of them properly, but since they are owned they wouldn't touch them. They have no street value and can't just be thrown in the garbage, so they become fancy dust collectors.


It's just as bad if you lease. When you try to give back your obsolete leased equipment they tell you not to bother. It sits in your house and you really can't sell it because it's not even clear you have any ownership at all. You're afraid to dumpster it in case they change their minds. It's pretty awesome. Not.

In reality, I suspect very few people will actually pay $399 for an HR34 except those who have to have the latest technology first. New customers or existing customers who are eligible for equipment upgrades (or willing to wait until they are eligible) should get them for a considerable discount if not for free.


Agreed. I expect to pay them very little or nothing.

I used to be a big fan of TiVo, but when I look at how much their per unit subscription cost is now, plus what it would cost to have cable cards and service, it quickly becomes more expensive than DIRECTV when you want DVR functionality on every TV.


I tried to justify getting one just for OTA and the internet features. The subscription is half price when you do it that way. It's still overpriced..

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:23 AM

CEO:

"Starting December, the new graphically rich HD user interface that supports the multiscreen social and interactive experience will be available to our HD customers. And before year end, we'll introduce the highly anticipated Home Media Center, which not only has twice the storage capacity of our traditional HD DVR but also allows customers to record up to 5 shows at once in any room. Another promising future benefit of that product is the ability for customers to access full HD and DVR functionality through the DIRECTV user interface on RVU-compatible televisions, eliminating the need for additional set-top boxes in secondary rooms. "

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:45 AM

He said "introduce", not make available. :( I would say technically, it has been introduced.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:53 AM

He said "introduce", not make available. :( I would say technically, it has been introduced.


If you read this forum it has, but it hasn't been marketed at all even in the test launch markets. So for all intent and purposes DIRECTV has not introduced it to the market. People who are getting it right now probably have no idea they just got something most of us are foaming at the bit for.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 03:00 PM

New to the forum. Looking at going from dish to directv due to whole house dvr. Talked to directv today, asked which dvr I would receive, they stated the 24, I then said I would wait until the hr34 came out. He stated for me to hold on for a minute, he came back and stated that I would receive the hr34 since I brought it up not the rep. I told him I was not in the test area, he said I would still get the new box. Install is next Wed, if it doesn't arrive with the hr34, I will not allow them to install. Not cancelling dish until after the install of the directv's system.

I guess I will see what happens.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 03:04 PM

:welcome_s!

I am sorry to say, you will probably be sending that installer away.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 03:12 PM

Wouldn't be the first time things didn't work out.

Just going on what was promised.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 03:32 PM

I'm 100% sure you'll be turning him away. Might as well cancel now.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:10 PM

One would have to believe that Order Receipts in email, letter, and directv.com would say "Home Media Center" rather than "HD-DVR".

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:23 PM

Well I called Directv back, they said I would receive the hr24 not the 34. I asked for a supervisor, he stated we don't want to send out new devices until the bugs are worked out. I told him I would be think about it tonight and decide on whether I would cancel my order in the morning.

Is the 24 a good system?

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:30 PM

Is the 24 a good system?


I have both an HR24 and an HR34. The HR24 is great. The only functional difference in terms of actual day to day use is scale: the number of simultaneous recordings, MRV streams and series links.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:19 PM

Pssst, there's no guarantee you'll get an HR24 either.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 01:59 AM

The HR34 looks like a BEAST!! Sucks that we won't be able to get one for a while though. :(

I really need more than 2 tuners... I have a lot of conflicts, it seems like EVERYTHING is on between 7-9 PM on certain nights!! Especially Sundays, I'm recording Dexter, Homeland on Showtime... Simpsons, Family Guy, etc on Fox... and watching Sunday Night Football at the same time. And occasionally another show that I want to record but can't. :(

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 06:09 AM

Okay before I call Directv this morning to discuss my upcoming installation, I will be installing (if I keep the commitment) 1 hd dvr and 3 hd receivers. In your guys opinion, which equipment that is available is the ones I want? After your comments, I will call and either get a commitment from them to give me that equipment or I will cancel out.

Thanks for all of your help. Also sorry about hijacking this thread.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 08:20 AM

If you can't get a HR34, I would suggest getting at least 2 HR24s. I find the "you only need 1 DVR for your entire house" concept that companies try to sell woefully inadequate. Each DVR you have is an extra show that can be recorded in the background without interfering with whatever someone else is watching. Or, put a DVR in an infrequently used room and you'll have two tuners that can be used to record without disrupting what someone wants to watch.

The main disadvantage of the current multi-room system (which the HR34 will remedy once RVU is fully implemented) is even though you can play back recorded programs in every room, you still can't pause or rewind live TV using a standard HD receiver. The closest you can get is always recording whatever you want to watch live on the DVR and then playing it back while it records. I'll admit I'm a bit of a DVR addict, but once you live with it's hard not to have the functionality on every TV.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 02:25 PM

Is the code base on the HR34 the same as the rest of HR models, i.e. does this mean there's hope that the rest of use will get a firmware update that allows for 100 SLs as well?

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 02:53 PM

Is the code base on the HR34 the same as the rest of HR models, i.e. does this mean there's hope that the rest of use will get a firmware update that allows for 100 SLs as well?


Yes, the code base is the same but it's doubtful we'll get 100 SL's.
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:41 PM

I called directv back tonight and cancelled my order since the sales rep mislead me. I will wait to order until the hr34 comes out or dish comes out with their whole house system.

Thanks for your responses.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:50 PM

I called directv back tonight and cancelled my order since the sales rep mislead me. I will wait to order until the hr34 comes out or dish comes out with their whole house system.

Thanks for your responses.


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Posted 05 November 2011 - 07:52 PM

Anyone know which manufacturers will be making the HR34?

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