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HR34 Discussion/Anticipation thread


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#161 OFFLINE   wahooq

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 03:02 PM

its not leaking anything the system is out in certain markets and yes the protocols are in place already...just letting you guys know

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 03:16 PM

The only question I have for the RVU client end -- can it also do PIP?
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Posted 09 November 2011 - 03:50 PM

The only question I have for the RVU client end -- can it also do PIP?


no only from the receiver itself...at this time

Edited by wahooq, 09 November 2011 - 05:02 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2011 - 06:48 AM

If you have to pay a fee to use a RVU client then whats the point? just get another reciver


Agreed. I currently have 4 HR20 and 2 HR24 installed. I use one HR20 in a closet with RF remote control enabled to feed 5 TVs that are in rooms that are lightly used and almost never at the same time. 2 of the TVs use the HDMI and component out connections and they work fine. The other three run through a frequency modulator (where they used to be combined with CATV feed but that is gone) onto on long coax runs to upstairs guest bedrooms. These worked fine until HD. Now the PQ is poor.

I was going to replace the HR20 with 5 HR24s (I have multi-room so these TVs don't need DVR function) but the $30/month for TVs that may not even be used in a month didn't make sense. When I heard about the HR34 I was hoping that would be my solution. Use it to replace the HR20 in the closet and get external RVUs for the 3 TVs upstairs. Now it sounds like that won't save me anything, so rather than wait for the HR34, I may as well just order the HR24s and have them in time for Thanksgiving guests.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 07:12 AM

Is the RVU/H24/H25 capable of rewinding live tv/current channel?

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 07:40 AM

The work-around using the H receivers is to start a program recording on a DVR then the receiver can immediately start playing the recording via MRV which allows pause & rewind (and FF if there's enough time lapse between when the recording was started and the current state of playback).

You can schedule the recording on the DVR, accessing the DirecTV website with a PC or smart phone, or even a smart phone app that controls the DVR. :)

edit - and I forgot the obvious, you can set up recordings on the DVR9(s) from the receiver(s).

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 08:49 AM

Your missing the point here. They dont have to be "certified" in order to be shown and stated they are RVU devices. haven't we seen the C30 and HR34/HMC30 well before any certification was done by RVU alliance on them publically at least?.....

If they're trying to establish a standard, the RVU Alliance, like HDMI and other standards organizations, needs to make sure that the name and/or service mark aren't affixed to something that isn't certified or at least pending. The first devices will set the tone for the long term and when the goal is cross-compatibility, strict adherence is an imperative.

The previous trade shows where the HMC and clients have been present have been little more than technology demonstrations but at some point RVU is going to have to be formally introduced to reach beyond the membership of the alliance as a functional standard.

This is much more than DIRECTV pitching some proprietary gobbledygook or bastardized version of some other standard.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 09:48 AM

Is the RVU/H24/H25 capable of rewinding live tv/current channel?


There is no RVU receiver, yet, and no the H2X's are not capable of any trickplay on live tv.
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Posted 10 November 2011 - 04:47 PM

Agreed. I currently have 4 HR20 and 2 HR24 installed. I use one HR20 in a closet with RF remote control enabled to feed 5 TVs that are in rooms that are lightly used and almost never at the same time. 2 of the TVs use the HDMI and component out connections and they work fine. The other three run through a frequency modulator (where they used to be combined with CATV feed but that is gone) onto on long coax runs to upstairs guest bedrooms. These worked fine until HD. Now the PQ is poor.

I was going to replace the HR20 with 5 HR24s (I have multi-room so these TVs don't need DVR function) but the $30/month for TVs that may not even be used in a month didn't make sense. When I heard about the HR34 I was hoping that would be my solution. Use it to replace the HR20 in the closet and get external RVUs for the 3 TVs upstairs. Now it sounds like that won't save me anything, so rather than wait for the HR34, I may as well just order the HR24s and have them in time for Thanksgiving guests.


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Posted 10 November 2011 - 05:45 PM

There is no RVU receiver, yet, and no the H2X's are not capable of any trickplay on live tv.


But it'd sure be cool to be able to stick a usb drive on em and have em least buffer 2hr of the channel...

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 05:47 PM

Cool, but unlikely.
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Posted 10 November 2011 - 07:48 PM

But it'd sure be cool to be able to stick a usb drive on em and have em least buffer 2hr of the channel...


That would be cool.
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Posted 10 November 2011 - 09:58 PM

IMO, a $6 per room fee for the HR34 for each attached RVU client = FAIL

I could understand up to an additional $18/mo for an HR34 with >= 3 RVU clients attached. But, anything more just doesn't make sense.

Note: I am also assuming a maximum of 3 attached "active" RVU clients with a maximum of 8 "registered" RVU clients.

D* should really just charge some type of "Advanced Receiver Fee" of around $20 which would include a fully functional HR34 (3 active clients, 8 registered clients) and MRV. Let people buy each RVU client outright (around $50) and own them. Or, people can buy RVU enabled TVs or other devices that will work with the HR34.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 12:32 AM

Let's stop encouraging DirecTV to charge gigantic monthly fees for the HR34. Some of us want it for the multiple tuners and don't intend to have 3 rooms hooked up at all. If the monthly fee is $18-20, we're no longer customers. I don't see how that's a win either.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 08:29 AM

Let's stop encouraging DirecTV to charge gigantic monthly fees for the HR34. Some of us want it for the multiple tuners and don't intend to have 3 rooms hooked up at all. If the monthly fee is $18-20, we're no longer customers. I don't see how that's a win either.


Agreed. I'd just want it to be just another DVR with a boat load of tuners connected to my non-supported whole house setup.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 09:15 AM

Let's stop encouraging DirecTV to charge gigantic monthly fees for the HR34. Some of us want it for the multiple tuners and don't intend to have 3 rooms hooked up at all. If the monthly fee is $18-20, we're no longer customers. I don't see how that's a win either.


note that I said "fully functional". If you're not using RVU clients, then have DirecTV disable that certain functionality and charge the standard HD-DVR rates. To others such as myself, we want the HR34 for the multiroom functionality. My family can get along with 5 tuners in total, but I need lots of receivers to service all of the TVs in my house.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 09:37 AM

Let's stop encouraging DirecTV to charge gigantic monthly fees for the HR34. Some of us want it for the multiple tuners and don't intend to have 3 rooms hooked up at all. If the monthly fee is $18-20, we're no longer customers. I don't see how that's a win either.


I don't think they are encouraging huge monthly fees for the HR34, just a capped option for those that want to use the HR34 for multi-room setups. If you don't use it like that, then you wouldn't have to pay the multi-room premium.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 12:47 AM

I don't think they are encouraging huge monthly fees for the HR34, just a capped option for those that want to use the HR34 for multi-room setups. If you don't use it like that, then you wouldn't have to pay the multi-room premium.


And that's fine. And I agree, some kind of discount is appropriate given the net cost of the hardware. There has just been some loose language over the course of the discussion around the HR34. There are a lot of us looking forward to it who might never use multiple clients while some of you are looking forward to that feature.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 08:48 AM

See this thread for a possible solution.


For some reason I can't access this thread via the link. There are apparently some restrictions on my account until I post 5 messages. Maybe that is blocking me. Can you provide a tag or some keywords I can search on to get to it?

Thanks.

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 08:56 AM

For some reason I can't access this thread via the link. There are apparently some restrictions on my account until I post 5 messages. Maybe that is blocking me. Can you provide a tag or some keywords I can search on to get to it?

Thanks.


You have to be a member of the Cutting Edge (CE) section of this site to view that thread.
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