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THR22 Asked and Answered thread


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#1 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:07 AM

Yes, there will be a first look.

Due to the release schedule of the THR22 and the nature of testing, a first look isn't available on "Day 1." But there will be a first look. The team is already on it. In the meantime, I'm happy to answer whatever questions you have. If any of you have a THR22, feel free to chime in as well.

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#2 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 02:17 PM

Here's what I know so far:

The TiVo User Interface will be on an otherwise stock HR22-100. If you have an HR22-100, you will not be able to upgrade it yourself.

There will be TiVo Suggestions, Wishlist Recording and Swivel Search. Swivel Search will only work if the DVR is connected to the internet.

There will be a Peanut Remote but it is specific to the THR22. The White DIRECTV remote will also operate the THR22.

There is a Deleted Items folder, and more than 50 season passes.

There will be support for Music and Photos if your DVR is connected to your LAN. There is an app you can download at TiVo.com for this.

The interactive channels like ACTIVE and the Scoreguide will work.

There are two 30-minute buffers.

eSATA works.

DBSTalk will not be participating in pre-release testing (CE.)

Scheduling via directv.com will work. Scheduling through the DIRECTV app "might" work, I'm not sure.

What isn't supported:
TVApps
Youtube
Netflix
Pandora
3D
GameSearch
DIRECTV2PC
Nomad
Whole-Home
TiVo KidZone
Picture-in-Graphics (PIG)
Front-panel dimming
DIRECTV App for iPad

Pricing:
$199 to lease
Monthly TiVo Service $5 plus $7 mirroring charge
HD Access must be on the account

If you paid for Lifetime TiVo service you can swap the old TiVo receiver without incurring the $5/month TiVo service fee.

Edited by Stuart Sweet, 06 December 2011 - 12:51 PM.

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 02:18 PM

Please feel free to add anything you have learned from your own experience, but please do not rely on rumor and speculation.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 01:33 PM

Informational screens, courtesy of engadget.com:

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 03:49 PM

Pricing...isn't there also the standard DVR fee per account to pay as well? Basically the fees for this are the same as the DirecTV DVR with the additional $5 Tivo fee, correct?

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 03:54 PM

What isn't supported:
TVApps
Youtube
Netflix
Pandora
3D
GameSearch
DIRECTV2PC
Nomad
Whole-Home
TiVo KidZone
Picture-in-Graphics (PIG)
Front-panel dimming
DIRECTV App for iPad


I said in another thread that I was surprised by the lack of support for 3D, and especially YouTube (YouTube being available on stand-alone TiVos for quite some time), but KidZone is a BIG surprise given that it was announced for the THR22 back when the unit was announced.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 03:55 PM

Right. The regular DVR, mirroring, and HD access fees apply; just add the additional $5 "TiVo Tax."
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 03:55 PM

I said in another thread that I was surprised by the lack of support for 3D, and especially YouTube (YouTube being available on stand-alone TiVos for quite some time), but KidZone is a BIG surprise given that it was announced for the THR22 back when the unit was announced.

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I can confirm that KidZone is not part of the THR22. Not from my own eyes but from a very reliable source.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:07 PM

I can confirm that KidZone is not part of the THR22. Not from my own eyes but from a very reliable source.


I wasn't doubting you.... just surprised.

The product will support the latest TiVo and DIRECTV features and services, including TiVo's Universal Swivel Search and TiVo KidZone.


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It was clearly stated in the original press release... I'd say maybe it will come later, and it's possible, but given the time since the original press release, it's sad that it's not there from the start.

I've often said that TiVo KidZone is a GREAT feature for parents... one TiVo should really promote more. Given that the product lacks WHDVR, 3D, YouTube, Netflix, Pandora, etc., it's sad that it's missing a feature that it was announced to have.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:09 PM

Yes, it was in the original press release. I remember it well. Unfortunately, forward facing statements, blah, blah, press release, blah, blah, unexpected circumstances, you know.

So far I'm not hearing that it will come later, but lines of communication to the TiVo developers aren't as... well-defined as my lines to my friends in El Segundo.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:10 PM

I get that it doesn't support Whole Home, but does it support SWiM? What's required to hook both tuners and ethernet up to a SWiM network?

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:12 PM

SWiM is supported and so is the use of a Cinema Connection kit for networking.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:22 PM

To be clear, this means I only need to hook up a single SWiM cable, and both tuners and ethernet are connected?

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:29 PM

Do you think a future software release would enable youtube? I can't see why a service as simple as that can't be offered since its a internet connected device. I guess services like guru guides and web cast videos are surely out.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:37 PM

To be clear, this means I only need to hook up a single SWiM cable, and both tuners and ethernet are connected?


Yes. I'll confirm that personally in the next few days. You would need a DECA to split out the ethernet portion.

Do you think a future software release would enable youtube? I can't see why a service as simple as that can't be offered since its a internet connected device. I guess services like guru guides and web cast videos are surely out.


There are no plans to launch youtube in the future, but plans can always change.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:58 PM

I said in another thread that I was surprised by the lack of support for 3D, and especially YouTube (YouTube being available on stand-alone TiVos for quite some time), but KidZone is a BIG surprise given that it was announced for the THR22 back when the unit was announced.

~Alan


That's because everyone's kids grew up while the parents were waiting for this thing to come out!


That is a long list of unsupported features. Between that and it's the old SD interface on an older DVR, I'll pass. DirecTV's in house HD GUI on HR24 (and upcoming HR34) is more my style.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 05:07 PM

As far as I know yes. I'll confirm that personally in the next few days. You would need a DECA to split out the ethernet portion.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 05:26 PM

That's because everyone's kids grew up while the parents were waiting for this thing to come out!


:lol:

Joking aside... I feel that with the right advertising, TiVo could find a niche alongside the DirecTV DVRs with individuals who have small children. DirecTV's parental controls seem to be an afterthought (no offense to DirecTV, as I don't know any other provider other than TiVo who does better), and TiVo KidZone is DEFINITELY a feature that I'd consider worth more than $5 extra a month.

There's a lot of GREAT TiVo features on this device, and a few great DirecTV features. The lack of WHDVR is a deal-breaker for me, but even then, the most disappointing aspect is that once again, it's a handicapped TiVo.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 05:31 PM

If you paid for Lifetime TiVo service you can swap the old TiVo receiver without incurring the $5/month TiVo service fee.


What if someone already swapped their old D*Tivo for an HRXX?

Will older D*TiVo peanut remotes work with the THR22?

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 05:31 PM

Will older D*TiVo peanut remotes work with the THR22?


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