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#51 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 06:45 PM

Here's the latest software/system info:

Version: 018A
Software ID: 11.2.3-01-3-627
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 07:24 PM

Here's the latest software/system info:

Version: 018A
Software ID: 11.2.3-01-3-627


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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:35 PM

Are these Tivo THR22 receivers new or re-manufactured? I thought they weren't building any 'HR22' units anymore?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:07 AM

funny thing... i have been a directv subscriber since 95, and have had a directivo receiver since 2003, and continue to have 2 of them active on my account.

i called directv to order 1, or 2 of them today, but i cannot get one, since i am not in their "market"

why would they release them to specific markets, and not to the loyal tivo subscribers who have had tivo all these years?? so, instead of a loyal tivo subscriber, some joe off the street who never had tivo gets one before me?

weird

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:17 AM

I switched to DISH and the wife hates their DVR almost as much as the DTV ones. We had 3 SD Tivo's before switching to DISH. What is needed to switch back to DTV? Are they offering any sort of deals on this?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:59 AM

funny thing... i have been a directv subscriber since 95, and have had a directivo receiver since 2003, and continue to have 2 of them active on my account.

i called directv to order 1, or 2 of them today, but i cannot get one, since i am not in their "market"

why would they release them to specific markets, and not to the loyal tivo subscribers who have had tivo all these years?? so, instead of a loyal tivo subscriber, some joe off the street who never had tivo gets one before me?

weird


They haven't been released nationally, they always start small in a more controlled fashion, getting installers trained etc.

Same thing happened with the HR34, people who may have no idea what they're getting ends up with them and the big fans have to wait.

Though, I'm kind of doubting that many new subscribers are getting this, I'd think DirecTV would still default to their normal equipment. Tivo would probably be mostly for those that ask for it in that market and want it.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:29 AM

Are these Tivo THR22 receivers new or re-manufactured? I thought they weren't building any 'HR22' units anymore?


As far as I know they are all new.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:39 AM

Will there be a manual available in PDF format?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:44 AM

Does this solve the issue that DTV has with the 30 second fast forward button? I'm talking about the 2-3 second lag while the screen visually fast forwards, showing segments of the commercials you're avoiding. Compare to Dish, which instantly snaps to the next segment when you hit the button.

If so, it's worth the 5 bucks a month to me. The options of mashing that damn button 6 times and waiting for the commercials to pass, or mashing FF 4 times and missing the mark every time drives me insane, but they have me in their shackles thanks to the NFL.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:50 AM

Does this solve the issue that DTV has with the 30 second fast forward button? I'm talking about the 2-3 second lag while the screen visually fast forwards, showing segments of the commercials you're avoiding. Compare to Dish, which instantly snaps to the next segment when you hit the button.

If so, it's worth the 5 bucks a month to me. The options of mashing that damn button 6 times and waiting for the commercials to pass, or mashing FF 4 times and missing the mark every time drives me insane, but they have me in their shackles thanks to the NFL.


On the current Directv HRs, you can do a search for "30SKIP", keyword, All , Done, and it will just skip the 30 seconds, not do the default slip (the showing segments of the commercial thing).

Edited by weaver6, 08 December 2011 - 10:52 AM.
clarify that the procedure is for the current HRs

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:55 AM

Will there be a manual available in PDF format?


Eventually, yes. All I have now is a printed one.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:56 AM

On the current Directv HRs, you can do a search for "30SKIP", keyword, All , Done, and it will just skip the 30 seconds, not do the default slip (the showing segments of the commercial thing).


Wow, thank you so much. Sorry that my prior searches hadn't discovered this.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:23 PM

I'm embarrassed to admit I don't know why DIRECTV CINEMA isn't available. And shouldn't it be on the list of not included features?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:28 PM

That list isn't complete, unfortunately.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:11 PM

I have waited so long for the new HD Tivo only to now be told that I have to wait till some point after the first of the year to have a shot at getting one.

What I don't understand is why those of us with the SD Tivo who have been asking to upgrade are not first on the list to upgrade.

Very unhappy that once again DirecTV is going to make me wait and still can't tell me when I will be able to get it.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:21 PM

That list isn't complete, unfortunately.


So why isn't DIRECTV CINEMA available?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:25 PM

I have waited so long for the new HD Tivo only to now be told that I have to wait till some point after the first of the year to have a shot at getting one.

What I don't understand is why those of us with the SD Tivo who have been asking to upgrade are not first on the list to upgrade.

Very unhappy that once again DirecTV is going to make me wait and still can't tell me when I will be able to get it.


agreed!!! they had been trying for years to get me to upgrade my dvr-80 and my hr10-250.... now im last in line!!?!?

but... since i am a tivo subscriber, i am "grandfathered" in so i dont have to pay the extra fee that they are imposing

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:32 PM

I'm embarrassed to admit I don't know why DIRECTV CINEMA isn't available. And shouldn't it be on the list of not included features?


DirecTV Cinema is listed as a supported item on the press release at the beginning of this thread, and the email I just got from TiVo.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:34 PM

Do you know if the IR control codes for the THR22-100 will be the same as TIVO non-DirecTv control codes? I have a Control4 video distribution system for our house and want to swap out my current non-TIVO DirecTv box for the new THR22-100. The Control4 system requires IR codes to map to its remotes. I have the existing codes working with TIVO boxes running with cable cards. I am hoping the same TIVO IR codes will work with the THR22-100. THought? Tks.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:40 PM

agreed!!! they had been trying for years to get me to upgrade my dvr-80 and my hr10-250.... now im last in line!!?!?

but... since i am a tivo subscriber, i am "grandfathered" in so i dont have to pay the extra fee that they are imposing


There are old TiVo subs in their test markets too I am sure. Role it out slowly, so you can see what demand really is going to be and then you don't need to worry about more being order than you have.

And if you have free dvr services that's great, you will only have to pay the TiVo fee then. Both are required, and I haven't seen anyone say they wave them both, and in fact I believe getting rid of that ability so tivo can make more money is one part of the reason they added the TiVo fee in the first place.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 01:43 PM

Do you know if the IR control codes for the THR22-100 will be the same as TIVO non-DirecTv control codes? I have a Control4 video distribution system for our house and want to swap out my current non-TIVO DirecTv box for the new THR22-100. The Control4 system requires IR codes to map to its remotes. I have the existing codes working with TIVO boxes running with cable cards. I am hoping the same TIVO IR codes will work with the THR22-100. THought? Tks.


Both the DirecTV remote and the new TiVo remote are interchangeable, so probably. It is possible they will use different codes than a directv receiver, but somehow I doubt it. You will likely need to reprogram your system, but don't know for sure.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 02:57 PM

So why isn't DIRECTV CINEMA available?


Now to be clear, I think some On Demand content is available, but not the movies that are pre-delivered to your hard drive, the ones that show up with a checkmark in a green circle.

I'm going to look into this, but if that's true then it would be, because TiVo's aren't set up to store that stuff.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 03:04 PM

Will the External drive work the same way on the THR22, as a replacement for the internal drive or in addition to the existing drive ?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 03:59 PM

Will the External drive work the same way on the THR22, as a replacement for the internal drive or in addition to the existing drive ?


I would expect so. It's been said that's a hardware thing, not a software thing on the current hr2xs

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:07 PM

Here's what I know so far:

The TiVo User Interface will be on an otherwise stock HR22-100. If you have an HR22-100, you will not be able to upgrade it yourself.

There will be TiVo Suggestions, Wishlist Recording and Swivel Search. Swivel Search will only work if the DVR is connected to the internet.

There will be a Peanut Remote but it is specific to the THR22. The White DIRECTV remote will also operate the THR22.

There is a Deleted Items folder, and more than 50 season passes.

There will be support for Music and Photos if your DVR is connected to your LAN. There is an app you can download at TiVo.com for this.

The interactive channels like ACTIVE and the Scoreguide will work.

There are two 30-minute buffers.

eSATA works.

DBSTalk will not be participating in pre-release testing (CE.)

Scheduling via directv.com will work. Scheduling through the DIRECTV app "might" work, I'm not sure.

What isn't supported:
TVApps
Youtube
Netflix
Pandora
3D
GameSearch
DIRECTV2PC
Nomad
Whole-Home
TiVo KidZone
Picture-in-Graphics (PIG)
Front-panel dimming
DIRECTV App for iPad

Pricing:
$199 to lease
Monthly TiVo Service $5 plus $7 mirroring charge
HD Access must be on the account

If you paid for Lifetime TiVo service you can swap the old TiVo receiver without incurring the $5/month TiVo service fee.


Wish this was based on the Tivo ELITE platform---

Needs a PIG guide

Needs 2 buffers of longer time - at least 1 hour for each buffer

Needs TiVo KidZone

-----Below features that is good that are not supported
TVApps
Youtube
Netflix
Pandora
3D
GameSearch
DIRECTV2PC
Nomad
Whole-Home

Will the DIRECTV allow us to change series links online ?




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