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#101 OFFLINE   dirtyblueshirt

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:46 PM


The stand alone TiVos allow the guide to overlay a recording during playback. That is something the HR10 could not do. Can The THR22 display the guide over a recording?



Another one for me to try tonight.


I can answer this. Yes, you can bring up the onscreen guide while a recording is playing.
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#102 OFFLINE   dirtyblueshirt

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:50 PM

the remote


Then no, it doesn't glow. This was most likely because making it glow AND have RF functionality would be too great a drain on the batteries.

For the record, the Tivo Premiere does not have the Glo Remote either. Only the XL and Elite.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:58 PM

For the record, the Tivo Premiere does not have the Glo Remote either. Only the XL and Elite.


Yeah... that was an unfortunate cost cutting measure.

The TiVo Series 3 had it. The remote is far superior on it to the one I had on my TiVo Series 2, or my DirecTiVos.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:59 PM

Yeah... that was an unfortunate cost cutting measure.

The TiVo Series 3 had it. The remote is far superior on it to the one I had on my TiVo Series 2, or my DirecTiVos.

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No argument here! :) Though I would call the DirecTV a solid 2nd place. I just wish DirecTV offered MLB remotes too. Not a football fan, but I loves me some baseball!
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:03 PM

Looking at the info and pics, I assume that the NDA has ended for the TiVo-engined box?

I would have thought (by the lack of earlier info and pics) that they had a pretty strong NDA.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:06 PM

Looking at the info and pics, I assume that the NDA has ended for the TiVo-engined box?

I would have thought (by the lack of earlier info and pics) that they had a pretty strong NDA.


It depends on the NDA. An NDA for the press (aka a "Press Blackout") is likely what you're seeing the result of here. Also, the THR22 is now available in select markets as well.

Edited by dirtyblueshirt, 09 December 2011 - 02:14 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:07 PM

So you're press?
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:13 PM

So you're press?


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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:16 PM

Me too! I used to be an Editor-in-chief of several magazines - alas not quite in this industry - but I don't talk in riddles either!
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:17 PM

Does this need to be connected to phone line and internet?
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:26 PM

No argument here! :) Though I would call the DirecTV a solid 2nd place. I just wish DirecTV offered MLB remotes too. Not a football fan, but I loves me some baseball!


Yeah... RF might actually give the DirecTV one 1st place in my eyes, but otherwise, (design and build wise), the deluxe TiVo remote wins.

For cost cutting measures, I haven't been turning on the heat, and being able to fast forward past commercials without taking my hands out from under my blanket(s) is a GREAT feature.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:45 PM

At the beginning DIRECTV sold the TiVo for life and then realised that it would include every dvr fee, non TiVo's, so they stopped.


No, that's not what happened. At the same time that DTiVo "account management" was transferred to DirecTV, the option to buy lifetime service for DTiVos ended. DirecTV never sold this option. However, anyone who had already bought it had the lifetime status for DVR service transferred to their DirecTV account and kept it for life, no matter what hardware was active.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 04:13 PM

How responsive is the UI?

How responsive is the remote for Trickplay commands?
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 04:19 PM

Does this need to be connected to phone line and internet?


There is no phone or internet requirement. The box does not have to phone home to Tivo, ever. There are no nag messages. All guide data and software is delivered over satellite.

In order to use pay-per-view, you must have a phone line or internet connection.

In order to use On Demand or Swivel Search, you must have an internet connection.

You can connect directly to a router through the ethernet port, or you can use a DECA to share the same connection as your other receivers use through the Cinema Connection kit.

How responsive is the UI?

How responsive is the remote for Trickplay commands?


I'm withholding judgment until it's been on for 24 hours, just to be fair.

Edited by Stuart Sweet, 09 December 2011 - 05:02 PM.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 04:24 PM

Thank you for answering my questions :)

I can just switch out my hr22 with a TiVo box? Two coax leaving the dish to the back of the TiVo. Setup and call to activate? Same access card? Or it comes with a new access card?
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 04:29 PM

Thank you for answering my questions :)

I can just switch out my hr22 with a TiVo box? Two coax leaving the dish to the back of the TiVo. Setup and call to activate? Same access card? Or it comes with a new access card?


It's not really a switch. You can order one if you're in one of the markets where they're available today. It will come with a new access card. You can then deactivate one receiver if you want to.

As for the price, that depends on what DIRECTV wants to offer you.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 04:42 PM

No, that's not what happened. At the same time that DTiVo "account management" was transferred to DirecTV, the option to buy lifetime service for DTiVos ended. DirecTV never sold this option. However, anyone who had already bought it had the lifetime status for DVR service transferred to their DirecTV account and kept it for life, no matter what hardware was active.


DirecTV offered it for a short time as well,and also had a deal where It was included with premier for a time.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:53 PM

Does the peanut remote support both IR and RF? Thanks

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:54 PM

Does the peanut remote support both IR and RF? Thanks


Yes it does! The RF is a godsend!
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:59 PM

Yes it does! The RF is a godsend!


Does the Peanut work with a standard HR?
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:01 PM

Does the Peanut work with a standard HR?


Follow up question: If so, does the slo-mo button work with a standard HR for instant slow motion?

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:16 PM

Does the Peanut work with a standard HR?


Follow up question: If so, does the slo-mo button work with a standard HR for instant slow motion?


The remote will work with an HR2x in IR mode. It programs RF differently so I did not test that. The differences:

  • The TiVo button is used in lieu of the MENU button
  • The Slow button does nothing
  • The Format button does nothing
  • The Thumbs Up/Down buttons do nothing
  • The Live TV button does nothing
  • There is no equivalent for the LIST or EXIT buttons on the RC6x remotes.

All other buttons work as their equivalents on the RC6x remotes.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:14 PM

DirecTV Cinema is listed as a supported item on the press release at the beginning of this thread, and the email I just got from TiVo.

See the DTV feature comparison chart here: http://www.directv.c...y/tivo_receiver

Now to be clear, I think some On Demand content is available, but not the movies that are pre-delivered to your hard drive, the ones that show up with a checkmark in a green circle.


I'm just a bit unclear about the distinction between DirecTV Cinema, DirecTV Cinema Plus and pre-loaded content. Does no DirecTV Cinema mean nothing in the 100s but you do get the equivalent VOD from the 1,000s? Or as you suggest you get the 100s but not the pre-loaded content?

It pretty easy to read both the DTV chart and the TiVo announcement as VOD only.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:20 PM

See the DTV feature comparison chart here: http://www.directv.c...y/tivo_receiver

I'm just a bit unclear about the distinction between DirecTV Cinema, DirecTV Cinema Plus and pre-loaded content. Does no DirecTV Cinema mean nothing in the 100s but you do get the equivalent VOD from the 1,000s? Or as you suggest you get the 100s but not the pre-loaded content?

It pretty easy to read both the DTV chart and the TiVo announcement as VOD only.


Directv has 400 movies that you can choose from that are on vod that will actually download via sat instead of over the Internet like the rest of their vod offereings. this is so people without Internet can also see some of the more popular vod movies. This unit will not do that, or per load your hard drive with a few movies. However, since These movies are also available via the Internet for vod download, I don't think this makes one bit of difference to anyone who hooks up their unit to the Internet.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:23 PM

The remote will work with an HR2x in IR mode. It programs RF differently so I did not test that. The differences:

  • The TiVo button is used in lieu of the MENU button
  • The Slow button does nothing
  • The Format button does nothing
  • The Thumbs Up/Down buttons do nothing
  • The Live TV button does nothing
  • There is no equivalent for the LIST or EXIT buttons on the RC6x remotes.

All other buttons work as their equivalents on the RC6x remotes.

What has been your experience with the responsiveness of the UI, and the responsiveness of the remote for Trickplay?

Both relative to the HR21/22/23 with the DirecTV stock firmware, and just in general as an ordinary user.
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