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#1 OFFLINE   karrank%

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:49 PM

Is this some russian news/tourism channel? When did this happen?

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:56 PM

Is this some russian news/tourism channel? When did this happen?


This happened today. Russia Today (RT) has been added the International Basic Pack, Russian: Mega Pack, DishLATINO Max, and AT120 and above at no additional cost to customers

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:59 PM

Interesting, thanks.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:01 PM

While you're at it, how about an Indonesia news channel?

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:05 PM

While you're at it, how about an Indonesia news channel?


I'll put in a request for you. Any specific one?

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:10 PM

Wow, there's more than one? An english-language one, if available, thanks.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:13 PM

Wow, there's more than one? An english-language one, if available, thanks.


I imagine there's more than one, but don't know of any off-hand, but I did put in a request for you

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 08:38 AM

How about a Canadian station? It would not take much to make CBC acceptable for U.S. distribution (i.e. removing the few programs that are already carried by a U.S. network). They get all our major nets plus many of our programs are carried on their nets.

When I first got cable back in the mid 80's we got a Canadian station since we are on the border (well sort of, Canada is 60 miles to the north with Lake Erie between us).
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 02:08 PM

How about a Canadian station? It would not take much to make CBC acceptable for U.S. distribution (i.e. removing the few programs that are already carried by a U.S. network). They get all our major nets plus many of our programs are carried on their nets.

When I first got cable back in the mid 80's we got a Canadian station since we are on the border (well sort of, Canada is 60 miles to the north with Lake Erie between us).


Blame Congress, the FCC and NAB for why Canadian TV stations cannot be carried by satellite in the United States. I have no idea how cable TV in Detroit, Seattle and Buffalo still can carry Canadian stations. Though, Canada, allows US Networks to be carried on satellite and Cable in Canada. While yes, CBS, CTV, and Global have their Canadian based programming, adverisers from the US routinely air ads on Canadian stations, thus causing competition for advertising dollars. Also, the US TV stations in Seattle, Detroit and Buffalo, NY do not want to lose revenue to their Canadian counterparts across the border.

The bottom line, as with everything else in this country with government, its the money. NAB pays a lot of people in Congress.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 02:50 PM

I imagine there's more than one, but don't know of any off-hand, but I did put in a request for you


Perhaps Euronews (in English) and BBC World News (and maybe Britain's Sky News as well) as well as Al Jazeera English.

Edited by Chihuahua, 06 December 2011 - 02:51 PM.
Added "as well as Al Jazeera English"


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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:07 PM

I did put all of your requests in

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:57 PM

Perhaps Euronews (in English) and BBC World News (and maybe Britain's Sky News as well) as well as Al Jazeera English.


Several years Al Jazeera English was supposed to be added, but there there was a flurry of angry "I'll drop Dish" messages posted here.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 08:59 PM

Let me get this straight....you are KIDDING me!

We've got bloody RT which does NOTHING but slam the US and praise Putin 24/7, but Al Jazeera English was short-circuited by a few ... uninformed people?

OK, before I get into a shouting match here I simply want to challenge anyone who wants to slam me on AJE.

First, go to: http://rt.com/on-air/ Watch it for an hour and count the anti-US references you see and hear, the stories that tell of all the problems in America.

Then, go to: http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/ and do the same.

Then come back here and let's discuss.

BTW, as I was typing this I switched on RT, just to make sure it was what I remembered. Within 30 seconds I had been told how Newt Gingrich or Romney as President would curtail American civil liberties and the crawl at the bottom of the screen chided the US for "interfering" with its comments about the Russian election.

I want to know who is paying Dish to pick up this channel. Look, I know what Charlie's politics are...I can't help but wonder if he knows he's broadcasting this...stuff?

As a child, I would lie in bed at night and listen to Radio Moscow, along with many other shortwave stations. Even at the age of 12 I could discern the difference between propaganda and honestly reported news. Today's RT doesn't push the glories of Marxism as did the old Radio Moscow...but it is considerably more sophisticated in the ways it seeks to trash our country and its interests abroad.

Sorry for the rant, folks. This just pissed me off (as I guess you can tell).

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 10:59 PM

Perhaps Euronews (in English) and BBC World News (and maybe Britain's Sky News as well) as well as Al Jazeera English.


BBC World
CNN International

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:45 AM

BBC World
CNN International


I don't think CNNI is a possibility as IIRC they won't sell it domestically. But BBC World is out there for the asking (and paying for).




....along with Al Jazeera English. :preach:

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 11:43 AM

It seems to me that the Middle East has replaced Russia as the favorite boogieman on US TV. China seems to be an up and comer in this regard too.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:08 PM

mnassour, I kid you not. The uproar over AlJaz was so bad the thread was locked and then removed. I'm just as upset as you are over the situation. If somebody did not want to watch it, don't. Just don't block it for the rest of us. We do still have freedom of speech here (last time I've checked). We should be able to get every foreign English language service available! Having those channels would differentiate satellite service over cable.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 10:39 AM

Second on BBC World and CNN International request (BBC World a strong 1st over CNNI)

"I don't think CNNI is a possibility as IIRC they won't sell it domestically."
Actually U-Verse and some US Cable systems carry it.

I just noticed the RT addition last night. Actually I've been receiving RT and Aljazzera English for some time now on an FTA satellite. I am REALLY hoping BBC World will be added sometime soon. I'm betting RT is paying Dish to carry their signal where BBC World requires payment from Dish.

As to the those who don't like the some view points of foreign news channels:
1) Read the first amendment, should that really only apply to the US?
2) You don't have to watch the channel.
3) The Voice of America is a US Gov't sponsored radio and television service broadcast to the rest of the world in various languages. Should that be shut down?
4) There are those of us who want to see other points of view besides what the US media determines to be news, and can decide for ourselves what is news and what is BS.
I could go on, but I think I've hit the main points.

So I do applaud Dish Network's decision to air Russia Today. I really would like to see BBC World added.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 04:17 AM

The uproar over AlJaz was so bad the thread was locked and then removed.


Why is everyone okay with this type of blatant censorship online? I coded my first BBS (online forum software) back in 1982 and all my life I have seen rampant censorship online. I thought this was ameerika?

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:12 AM

Censorship is when the government disallows free speech.
Moderation is when a forum thread gets out of hand and locked.

If'n you don't like it, go make your own forum, with blackjack, and hookers.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 09:24 AM

I think it is a misrepresentation to now have people look at Al Jezeera and ask how could it be protested comparing it to RT.
At that time it was a very VERY different Al Jezeera. I won't go into politics with specifics, but they actually targeted in a "documentary" a certain group of people as being the reason we had 911. This as a "news" organization.

Even at that, I do not like censorship, and we need to see this stuff so we can understand how others are thinking. Just remember though, Dish or anyone does not have to carry a news channel it does not want to. You don't have to subscribe to any provider you don't want to. It is not censorship if the provider does not want to carry a news channel even if it's because of politics.

Today, Al Jezeera has changed, and in obvious ways. They went after and got some credible news people, and certainly have become more of a news organization than propagandists. And to be fair to them, some new organizations do change, many think CNN was much more to the left but has since come more to the middle in their reporting.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 02:19 PM

Censorship is when the government disallows free speech.
Moderation is when a forum thread gets out of hand and locked.


Moderation is simply censorship.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 04:49 PM

Moderation is simply censorship.

What government is censoring the posts here?

Moderation happens to keep this place sane, otherwise it would become just like the wild wild west.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 09:44 AM

What government is censoring the posts here?

Moderation happens to keep this place sane, otherwise it would become just like the wild wild west.

I agree. It is along the lines of why I say Dish does not have to carry a News channel it does not want to. That is not censorship as the term is being used, that is an owner making decisions even if based on political beliefs. Same with the "owner" of a forum. Those who think it is censorship can start their own forum and then run it as they please so there is no censorship. If the Government told DBS Talk and every forum to delete or modify or not allow posts, that would be censorship.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:34 PM

There is nothing wrong with censorship.

We do it to ourselves all day long, if we did not there would be no civility.
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