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Benifts of TIVO/DTV STB over DTV w/ DVR STB?


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#1 OFFLINE   jbak21

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:58 AM

Years ago before DVR was provided by service providers I had Tivo ( i aslo had ReplayTV before that) so i am familiar with their services. My question is with DVR being provided by DTV, what are the benefits to the Tivo/DTV STB over a standard HD DVR STB from DTV? is it just personal preference on the GUI?

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#2 OFFLINE   P Smith

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:36 AM

There was LONG THREAD about anticipation of new DTV TiVo - if you'll read it you will find a lot of answers to your questions, ppl did post many pro/contra and compare features during last three years, why not use it ?

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:41 AM

The benefits...

if you like the TiVo interface, that's a benefit.
You do get full-time dual live buffers (30 min. each), Swivel Search (if internet-connected) and unlimited Season Passes.

At this point I'm not sure what other benefits there are, but I'm actively playing with the box so I'll let you know.
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#4 OFFLINE   midas69

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:51 AM

Suggestions is another benefit. While hated (and I do not use the term lightly) by many, it's one thing I really miss.

#5 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:11 PM

That is true, you get suggestions.
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#6 OFFLINE   hancox

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:21 PM

True, functional OTA support (with scanning)

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:21 PM

I posted this in another thread...

  • No Series Link limits.
  • Dual-Live-Buffers.
  • Wishlists.
  • NO PiL or PiG.
  • Deleted Items folder.
  • Suggestions.


Some people would consider #4 a negative, others (like myself) a plus.

The negatives outweigh the benefits, but one might place greater importance on some of the benefits... thereby skewing it towards TiVo.

Just depends on what is most important to you...

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:30 PM

Mostly personal preference on the GUI. But a lot of people liked TiVo suggestions, myself included. (My wife doesn't like them, but I think that's because they were all my rankings)

Searching for programming on TiVo is still much better. It's easier, quicker, and returns better results.

Navigating through DVR functions is still better, IMO, on TiVo.

Functionally, there's really not much difference anymore between TiVo and the basic D* DVRs.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:46 PM

Functionally, there's really not much difference anymore between TiVo and the basic D* DVRs.


Just remember this isn't Tivo Premiere we're talking about. There are some major features of the HR20-24 that aren't present on this box, even if Tivo has an equivalent function on their Premiere boxes.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:09 PM

Not sure if the TiVO-Style GUIDE is still offered, but if so, that's a plus, IMHO.

There are some old screen shots showing the difference here.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:12 PM

Just remember this isn't Tivo Premiere we're talking about. There are some major features of the HR20-24 that aren't present on this box, even if Tivo has an equivalent function on their Premiere boxes.


Other than Whole Home, I don't think there are any "major" features missing.
The rest are minor features.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:22 PM

Not sure if the TiVO-Style GUIDE is still offered, but if so, that's a plus, IMHO.

There are some old screen shots showing the difference here.


Yes the TiVO-style guide is still there.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:05 PM

Dual 90-minute buffers have been on the HR2x boxes for some time!
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:10 PM

Dual 90-minute buffers have been on the HR2x boxes for some time!


Only when you manually activate it, and then it's only temporary. Tivo always keeps 2 both buffers active.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:13 PM

True, functional OTA support (with scanning)


What a concept! :sure: Does DirecTV know about this? :)

Does anyone know what the Tivo unit's guide will show if its a scanned channel for which DirecTv does not have info in its guide stream? (I assume you can still tune it)

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 07:54 AM

Assuming it 1) works with the AM21/AM21N and 2) works like the HR10-250 used to, yes.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:05 AM

Yes the TiVO-style guide is still there.

I always thought that particular style was a great use of SD screen real estate. Lots of information packed in there.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:27 PM

I always thought that particular style was a great use of SD screen real estate. Lots of information packed in there.


Being able to see seven shows into the future is a big plus with that guide...that said some people loathe that guide view...I think it is a plus.

The bigger problem for some has yet to be mentioned here:

the DTV remote.

Two problems that plague my family...the location of the the active and list buttons.

The active button is right below the the pause button. This has caused people to try and pause what they are watching only to accidentally hit the active button. One solution is to cut off the active button.

Less observed: accidentally hitting the record button when trying to hit the list button. This one hits our family as often as the active button problem. In this case, what do you cut off? the record button or the list button?

If you go with the DTV recorder and can afford it, the best solution is one of the after market remotes.



I don't mrv.

In twelve years with Directv I have never pay per viewed...is it directv cinema now...so the fact that all directv cinema content isn't available isn't a big deal

50 series link limit...I am constantly juggling the list on our hr21

DLB is still missed...my wife still hates DTV for leaving that out..."double play is just teasing us" (her words not mine)

The DTV dvrs are WAY better than they used to be, but they still have short comings...but so does the directv tivo

I LOVE directv, but their hardware/software decisions :nono2: :confused: :eek2:

Edited by ghfiii, 11 December 2011 - 01:57 AM.


#19 OFFLINE   ejjames

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 02:55 AM

Could someone remind me when it's expected to go nationwide instead of select cities?
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