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Samsung Smart TVs Firmware 1024 and higher (RVU support) - Issues/Discussion


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#241 OFFLINE   markrogo

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 04:10 PM

That is exactly the issue. DTV can't do this by themselves. It would need to be an industry standard run by an Industry committe before all concerned would implement the technology. Do you know how difficult it is to set up an industry standard and get everyone to agree. .


Yes, in fact I do. I believe I alluded to this in 4-5 separate posts.

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 08:43 AM

No one provider can get all manufactures to do anything, but one technology used by many might be able to.

At this point, Mid-RF Annex is used exclusively by DIRECTV. Without support from a second (specifically from among the television manufacturers), there's no way to get to many.

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 01:39 PM

Yep... almost every time I start a Blu-ray on my Blu-ray player, it causes my Blu-ray player and AVR to shut off... causing me to start all over again.

If I unplug my HDMI cable until the disc starts playing, I'm good... :rolleyes:

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 04:55 PM

At this point, Mid-RF Annex is used exclusively by DIRECTV. Without support from a second (specifically from among the television manufacturers), there's no way to get to many.


Fortunately, DirecTV is the 2nd largest multichannel TV provider in the U.S.

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 06:48 PM

Fortunately, DirecTV is the 2nd largest multichannel TV provider in the U.S.


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Posted 31 December 2011 - 09:08 AM

Fortunately, DirecTV is the 2nd largest multichannel TV provider in the U.S.

That might be a big deal if we didn't know that DIRECTV serves less than 20% of the marketplace. Even when combined with the DISH Network customers that could also use Mid-RF Annex frequencies you've elevated the number to something around 31% of the space.

From there you consider what percentage of the 31% that is likely to employ MoCA networking and you've arrived at a level that I like to call "vanishingly small".

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 01:29 AM

I'm curious about 3D on the RVU client TVs. The channels (103-107) work fine when viewing from the TV that the HR34 is attached to but when I try to view one from the RVU tv it says "Not subscribed. Press SELECT.(721)". This isn't make or break for me but is it supposed to work or is it not possible yet to pass a 3D program over RVU? Yes my RVU tv is 3D capable (UN46D6400).

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 01:34 AM

I'm curious about 3D on the RVU client TVs. The channels (103-107) work fine when viewing from the TV that the HR34 is attached to but when I try to view one from the RVU tv it says "Not subscribed. Press SELECT.(721)". This isn't make or break for me but is it supposed to work or is it not possible yet to pass a 3D program over RVU? Yes my RVU tv is 3D capable (UN46D6400).


If that's the case I wonder if 1080p content is available then....would think if it doesn't allow 3D then 1080p wouldn't pass either.
Regardless I'd hope this is just a bump in the road and in the future it allows both just fine...

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 04:06 AM

That might be a big deal if we didn't know that DIRECTV serves less than 20% of the marketplace. Even when combined with the DISH Network customers that could also use Mid-RF Annex frequencies you've elevated the number to something around 31% of the space.

From there you consider what percentage of the 31% that is likely to employ MoCA networking and you've arrived at a level that I like to call "vanishingly small".


By your compelling "logic", the chances that Samsung would ever have built any TVs that supported such an unpopular technology are akin to those of discovering intelligent life on Mars.

Fortunately, the TV exists.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:49 AM

I'm curious about 3D on the RVU client TVs. The channels (103-107) work fine when viewing from the TV that the HR34 is attached to but when I try to view one from the RVU tv it says "Not subscribed. Press SELECT.(721)". This isn't make or break for me but is it supposed to work or is it not possible yet to pass a 3D program over RVU? Yes my RVU tv is 3D capable (UN46D6400).


Sounds almost like an HDMI handshake thing. That would be very disappointing if that was the case. Although there's not much to view in 3D right now anyway besides blu-ray. This will probably change though.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:57 AM

This is a known issue... 3d is not supported on the RVU clients. I'm talking to our friends at directv about this.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 11:25 AM

This is a known issue... 3d is not supported on the RVU clients. I'm talking to our friends at directv about this.


have you or anyone gotten a 1080p program to play via the RVU clientTV??
j/w if 3D doesn't work right now would 1080p...

well now as i type that i realize the two likely dont relate as 1080p should be more bandwidth wheras 3D should be more codec/handshake support right? or am i off on that too. lil early here after new years still. lol

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 02:07 PM

That might be a big deal if we didn't know that DIRECTV serves less than 20% of the marketplace. Even when combined with the DISH Network customers that could also use Mid-RF Annex frequencies you've elevated the number to something around 31% of the space.

From there you consider what percentage of the 31% that is likely to employ MoCA networking and you've arrived at a level that I like to call "vanishingly small".


Your % means nothing. They have millions of set top boxes, and from here on out, the majority will be hooked up with moca in mind, and at some point in the next couple years, most likely all new ones will. 40 million plus tvs being hooked up with moca devices is incentive enough for that particular spectrum, the issues is getting them manufactures to see the need for enabling moca on tvs because of all providers heading to that technology. Choosing a chip that will work with all favors will be the easy part. Showing the technology will be prevalent, that's the challenge.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 11:05 PM

Your % means nothing.

My percentage is fact. Your numbers are what iffy.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 05:50 PM

Samsung Smart TV Firmware V1026, check.
DECA installed, TV connected via Ethernet, check.
TV able to browse local network, check.
TV able to communicate out to internet, check.
Technician unable to understand what RVU is, and his tech support neither, FAIL. AARgh!

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:33 PM

I finally got an tech out today to upgrade my current system to a SWM, install my HR34 and hook up a Samsung D6400 via RVU. Everything was going along great and we got the D6400 paired to the HR34. On the next screen it said to call DirecTV to activate RVU. The installer called and was on hold forever. They finally said that they couldn't activate RVU for an existing customer and that they'd "send an email up the chain" to see if someone could find a way to get it done. Has any existing customer been successful in getting RVU, and if so, how?

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:41 PM

They finally said that they couldn't activate RVU for an existing customer


Its stuff like this that just makes a person want to scream. They should have had their computer systems, authorization systems, and procedures in place before the first box was sold.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:49 PM

I finally got an tech out today to upgrade my current system to a SWM, install my HR34 and hook up a Samsung D6400 via RVU. Everything was going along great and we got the D6400 paired to the HR34. On the next screen it said to call DirecTV to activate RVU. The installer called and was on hold forever. They finally said that they couldn't activate RVU for an existing customer and that they'd "send an email up the chain" to see if someone could find a way to get it done. Has any existing customer been successful in getting RVU, and if so, how?


Call back the main 800 number and tell them you want to open a case management ticket to setup your RVU clients. Apparently they are the only ones that can enable it. It's actually called HMC in their system. You can activate a HR34 through the main number pretty easily but they don't have access to enable HMC/RVU functionality.

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 09:52 PM

Its stuff like this that just makes a person want to scream. They should have had their computer systems, authorization systems, and procedures in place before the first box was sold.


Existing customers aren't eligible so people get to deal with the issues of going around the system.

However none of the last few pages except for about 2 posts have to do with Samsung Firmware. Could we get this cleaned up or at least get back on topic.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:48 AM

Actually I'm going to close this one and open up a new one for the new year.
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