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#341 OFFLINE   A_Bear

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:46 PM

Isn't this the first time Total Choice's price has risen above the Choice price?

Does anybody know DEFINITIVELY which channels I would lose/gain by dropping from Total Choice to Choice? (I know I would be saving only 50 cents a month, but I would also regain the ability to add or subtract packages online without having to call a CSR.)


with choice package you gain

610 Big Ten Network
HD simulcast
306 HDNet
HD Access required.

313 Jewelry Television Network
447 ONCE (ESP)
Public Interest Channel. Multi-sat equipment required. 119 satellite.
284 Science Channel, The
HD simulcast
855 Great Standards
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
853 Metro Blend
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
807 Rat Pack
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
878 Rock en Espanol
281 Velocity
HD Access required.


and you lose

257 Chiller
308 Cloo
618 FUEL TV
HD simulcast
218 Golf Channel, The (m) (SAP)
HD simulcast
283 Nat Geo WILD
276 National Geographic Channel
HD simulcast
251 Oxygen
869 Bailamos!
867 Be-Tween
877 Carnaval Brasileiro
Multi-sat equipment required.
831 College Rock
839 Flashback/New Wave
813 Folk Rock
828 Hallelujah
825 Hot Jamz (Hip Hop)
876 Mariachi
Multi-sat equipment required.
844 Old School Funk
823 Showtunes
841 Spike (Explicit)
868 The Playground
607 Speed
HD simulcast
603 Versus
HD simulcast
307 WGN America
HD simulcast

I dont think it is worth it, you would lose cloo network (I love to watch HOUSE) :P

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#342 OFFLINE   renbutler

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 02:11 PM

with choice package you gain

610 Big Ten Network
HD simulcast
306 HDNet
HD Access required.

313 Jewelry Television Network
447 ONCE (ESP)
Public Interest Channel. Multi-sat equipment required. 119 satellite.
284 Science Channel, The
HD simulcast
855 Great Standards
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
853 Metro Blend
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
807 Rat Pack
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
878 Rock en Espanol
281 Velocity
HD Access required.


and you lose

257 Chiller
308 Cloo
618 FUEL TV
HD simulcast
218 Golf Channel, The (m) (SAP)
HD simulcast
283 Nat Geo WILD
276 National Geographic Channel
HD simulcast
251 Oxygen
869 Bailamos!
867 Be-Tween
877 Carnaval Brasileiro
Multi-sat equipment required.
831 College Rock
839 Flashback/New Wave
813 Folk Rock
828 Hallelujah
825 Hot Jamz (Hip Hop)
876 Mariachi
Multi-sat equipment required.
844 Old School Funk
823 Showtunes
841 Spike (Explicit)
868 The Playground
607 Speed
HD simulcast
603 Versus
HD simulcast
307 WGN America
HD simulcast

I dont think it is worth it, you would lose cloo network (I love to watch HOUSE) :P


I have Total Choice (with HD), and I know for sure that it includes channels from both your lists: BTN, HDNet, Science, WGN, NGC, Speed, and Versus. So I'm not sure I understand your lists.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 03:46 PM

with choice package you gain

610 Big Ten Network
HD simulcast
306 HDNet
HD Access required.

313 Jewelry Television Network
447 ONCE (ESP)
Public Interest Channel. Multi-sat equipment required. 119 satellite.
284 Science Channel, The
HD simulcast
855 Great Standards
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
853 Metro Blend
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
807 Rat Pack
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
878 Rock en Espanol
281 Velocity
HD Access required.


and you lose

257 Chiller
308 Cloo
618 FUEL TV
HD simulcast
218 Golf Channel, The (m) (SAP)
HD simulcast
283 Nat Geo WILD
276 National Geographic Channel
HD simulcast
251 Oxygen
869 Bailamos!
867 Be-Tween
877 Carnaval Brasileiro
Multi-sat equipment required.
831 College Rock
839 Flashback/New Wave
813 Folk Rock
828 Hallelujah
825 Hot Jamz (Hip Hop)
876 Mariachi
Multi-sat equipment required.
844 Old School Funk
823 Showtunes
841 Spike (Explicit)
868 The Playground
607 Speed
HD simulcast
603 Versus
HD simulcast
307 WGN America
HD simulcast

I dont think it is worth it, you would lose cloo network (I love to watch HOUSE) :P


The list is in error. Time to get AAC fixed. ;)
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 03:49 PM

In this day and age all HD channels that have the same lineup as their SD lineups, we should drop all the SD channels that are duplicate - make people upgrade to to HD so that could downrez the channels to sd tvs for people who dont have hd tvs yet....

all the initial cost in boxces and etc would be saved by every segment of the tv industry by less transmission fees and less equipment to main both channels


This day and age? More than half the country still has SD televisions. Most televisions still out there are SD. For every house that has 3 televisions, 1.3 of them are HD and 1.7 are still SD. The more televisions in the house, the ratio gets worse (meaning even more SD televisions).

The country isn't ready to do this yet and certain not at the cost that would require it, both by the consumer and by the companies delivering the signals. You're still a few years out, maybe longer. A TON of SD televisions out there in the real world.
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#345 OFFLINE   Satelliteracer

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 03:51 PM

It does fit their pricing model such as having customers buy their receivers and then charge them a lease fee.

The argument for mirroring with multiple DTV receivers was that there was "maintenance/bandwidth" issues with additional receivers. Now that the other receiver is not a DTV piece of hardware, this fee makes no sense.


That is not the only reason those fees exist. Secondly, the % of people that buy their receivers is extremely low.
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 03:55 PM

The list is in error. Time to get AAC fixed. ;)


You should know its not AAC since that is copyrighted :lol:
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#347 OFFLINE   JoeTheDragon

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 04:06 PM

That is not the only reason those fees exist. Secondly, the % of people that buy their receivers is extremely low.


the phone company used to force to rent each phone in your house and now you buy them.

No in Candida systems you have the choice of rent or buy and shaw has rent to own. and with owned boxes no outlet or mirroring fees.
I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

#348 OFFLINE   A_Bear

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 04:34 PM

I have Total Choice (with HD), and I know for sure that it includes channels from both your lists: BTN, HDNet, Science, WGN, NGC, Speed, and Versus. So I'm not sure I understand your lists.


I'm sorry, the information I (we) have is apparently outdated....I will look into this for you

Edited by A_Bear, 30 December 2011 - 05:05 PM.


#349 OFFLINE   A_Bear

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 04:35 PM

You should know its not AAC since that is copyrighted :lol:


very true :P agent answer center ha ha

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 05:26 PM

You're still a few years out, maybe longer.

2014 when D14 and D15 launch? :D

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 05:33 PM

The grocery store does not force all people to buy coke to get other stuff.


My local supermarket, in fact, does make me spend $25 on groceries to get a reasonable price on Coke, however. Technically, you can buy Coke without the other stuff, but the price is insane. So long as you spend $25 elsewhere, Coke reverts to a reasonable price....

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 05:36 PM

What has me and most others mad is that NOTHING else has increased at the same rate. Think back to all your bills: gas, power, electric, phone, internet, etc. over the same time period. Assuming you didn't add new features, NONE of those items has doubled since 2002. Has your salary? Mine has only gone up roughly 60% and thats only a factor of adding more years experience.

As far as DISH goes, well, I think if you look back to 2002 and compare DISH prices, you'll see they have moved pretty much lock step with DirecTV.


Inflation alone would've taken Total Choice from $29.99 in 1999 to about $40 today (using various online calculators which take compounded CPI. Everything over $40 is explained by some combination of (a) increased costs for DirecTV (B) increased operating profits for DirecTV.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 05:42 PM

Inflation alone would've taken Total Choice from $29.99 in 1999 to about $40 today (using various online calculators which take compounded CPI. Everything over $40 is explained by some combination of (a) increased costs for DirecTV (B) increased operating profits for DirecTV.


The channel lineup in 99 was also smaller than it is today.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 06:08 PM

The channel lineup in 99 was also smaller than it is today.


Yeah but the shopping channels pay to be carried. :lol:

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 06:15 PM

with choice package you gain

610 Big Ten Network
HD simulcast
306 HDNet
HD Access required.

313 Jewelry Television Network
447 ONCE (ESP)
Public Interest Channel. Multi-sat equipment required. 119 satellite.
284 Science Channel, The
HD simulcast
855 Great Standards
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
853 Metro Blend
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
807 Rat Pack
Multi-sat equipment required. (m)
878 Rock en Espanol
281 Velocity
HD Access required.

and you lose

257 Chiller
308 Cloo
618 FUEL TV
HD simulcast
218 Golf Channel, The (m) (SAP)
HD simulcast
283 Nat Geo WILD
276 National Geographic Channel
HD simulcast
251 Oxygen
869 Bailamos!
867 Be-Tween
877 Carnaval Brasileiro
Multi-sat equipment required.
831 College Rock
839 Flashback/New Wave
813 Folk Rock
828 Hallelujah
825 Hot Jamz (Hip Hop)
876 Mariachi
Multi-sat equipment required.
844 Old School Funk
823 Showtunes
841 Spike (Explicit)
868 The Playground
607 Speed
HD simulcast
603 Versus
HD simulcast
307 WGN America
HD simulcast

I dont think it is worth it, you would lose cloo network (I love to watch HOUSE) :P


Yeah, I've had Total Choice since 2002 and I've always had BTN and HDNet and those since they were offered. The only channel i've ever lost was ESPN Classic when they swapped it out for ESPNU. That's why it's always been such a great deal (comparatively).

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 06:26 PM

Anyone know, if I add a receiver now and I'm out of contract, does that lock my price for 2 years, and I won't be affected by the increase? Might effectively give me a sizable discount on a new HD-DVR :D
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Posted 30 December 2011 - 06:28 PM

Anyone know, if I add a receiver now and I'm out of contract, does that lock my price for 2 years, and I won't be affected by the increase? Might effectively give me a sizable discount on a new HD-DVR :D


No. It just locks you into a 2 yr contract. During the contract, you can move around to different packages at will, but you dont lock in anything. That is only for new customers.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 07:24 PM

I've heard through the grapevine in the industry that it will not include your regional sports networks as part of the base package. So in Chicago, you would not receive your local sports teams that are on CSN Chicago. In Los Angeles, you would not see the Lakers on Fox Sports West or the Angels on Prime Ticket.

Regional sports fees are very high in certain parts of the country. Imagine the cost to DTV in the New York area with four regional sports fees (MSG, MSG+, SNY, YES) vs what they have to pay for in Milwaukee for example.


If DirecTV offered a so-called "entertainment" package with all the channels included in choice extra (or whatever it changes to) minus sports channels, I'd switch instantly. I NEVER watch ANY sports channel (I hate sports) and I know a lot of friends with DirecTV who also never watch sports either.

Sports fanatics will pay anything to support their "addiction" so they will gladly pay through the nose for ESPN, regional sports nets, etc.- with a smile on their face no less!! :rolleyes:

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 07:39 PM

If DirecTV offered a so-called "entertainment" package with all the channels included in choice extra (or whatever it changes to) minus sports channels, I'd switch instantly.


I am pretty much the opposite. I had SELECT, and it had every channel I watch regularly, except for two, Golf and Speed. So, for those two channels, instead of paying $44.95 a month, I have to pay $65.99 a month. DirecTv knows what they are doing. They will always make sure there are at least two must have channels available only in the expensive packages.

Personally I wish they would have a "News" package, "Science" package, "Sports" package, "General entertainment" package, and "Non-Premium Movie" package. I wouldnt hesitate to sub to the News, Science, and Sports package, but have no interest in the entertainment channels or commercial laden movie channels.

It wont happen though, because #1, the channels themselves force the carriers into placing them everyones package so they can get revenue from 10 million rather than just those that are interested, and #2, Directv wont do it because in most cases, they would lose money, as people dropped channel groups, although if done right, that wouldnt need to be the case.

I dont see much changing until subscribers start dropping in droves from DirecTv, Dish, and cable...forcing the programmers to do something to retain customers.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 08:00 PM

2014 when D14 and D15 launch? :D


The industry believes SD will be alive and well beyond that.
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