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#426 OFFLINE   dishrich

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:02 AM

Negative if you don't get HD you don't get a slimline dish.


EXCEPT in MPEG4 markets... ;)

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#427 OFFLINE   n3vino

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:15 AM

Did I misread what the other guy wrote, or did you? He's definitely digging for more discounts or credits, but he's not saying he's not going to pay... rather, he's affirming that they already bill his credit card monthly....

No, you didn't misread it. He never said he wouldn't pay his bill.

Auto bill pay and paperless statements saves D* money. How much I don't know. Unless I'm wrong, logic tells me that D has software that automatically charges a customers credit card/account, the money is paid automatically to D*'s account, and the customers account is credited automatically.

When a customer sends a check, D* has to hire someone to open the payment envelopes, set up the coupons and checks, which logic tells me are run through a check reader and posts to the customers account and sets up the checks with a list and a deposit slip to go to D*s bank for posting to their account. It's possible that D* separates the checks by region in order to get a cheaper rate from their bank. Those that are rejected by the check reader have to be handled and posted manually.

Another possibility is that D* subscribes to a bank's lockbox service, which provides the above services for a fee, with the exception of posting the payments to D*'s customer. D* still has to do that. Just imagine the number of checks D* receives on a daily basis.

Another method is when a customer sets up auto payment through his bank, they will either send a check, either on paper, or electronically. No coupon goes with that method, so most likely D* has to post the accounts manually.

Why did I post this? That's to show that D* benfits from autobill pay. If not for Free HD, I would not let them charge my credit card. I would put them on autobill pay at my bank to send them a check monthly, either electronically or on paper. I really didn't want them to charge my credit card, but free HD talked me into it.

FYI, I worked in banking for 35 years in computer operations and check processing.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:22 AM

It is aggravating that we get these price increases every year, but we have to remember all of the providers satellite and cable do it, on a yearly basis. I just checked my local cable and to get what I have with DirecTV through them, it would cost me another $31.00 a month.
I just wish the percentage of my income increased as much as the price increases of the programing packages do each year. :rolleyes:

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:59 AM

No, you didn't misread it. He never said he wouldn't pay his bill.

Auto bill pay and paperless statements saves D* money. How much I don't know. Unless I'm wrong, logic tells me that D has software that automatically charges a customers credit card/account, the money is paid automatically to D*'s account, and the customers account is credited automatically.

When a customer sends a check, D* has to hire someone to open the payment envelopes, set up the coupons and checks, which logic tells me are run through a check reader and posts to the customers account and sets up the checks with a list and a deposit slip to go to D*s bank for posting to their account. It's possible that D* separates the checks by region in order to get a cheaper rate from their bank. Those that are rejected by the check reader have to be handled and posted manually.

Another possibility is that D* subscribes to a bank's lockbox service, which provides the above services for a fee, with the exception of posting the payments to D*'s customer. D* still has to do that. Just imagine the number of checks D* receives on a daily basis.

Another method is when a customer sets up auto payment through his bank, they will either send a check, either on paper, or electronically. No coupon goes with that method, so most likely D* has to post the accounts manually.

Why did I post this? That's to show that D* benfits from autobill pay. If not for Free HD, I would not let them charge my credit card. I would put them on autobill pay at my bank to send them a check monthly, either electronically or on paper. I really didn't want them to charge my credit card, but free HD talked me into it.

FYI, I worked in banking for 35 years in computer operations and check processing.



You can do autobill pay through EFT with them but it has to be setup through DIRECTV and not your bank.

Processing fees for checks are still cheaper per transaction than most CC fees when dealing with the average monthly payment DIRECTV gets.

The real benefit to automatic payment for companies is that it helps make their cash flow more consistent.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 12:01 PM

I get 22% ... and the carrier doesn't check to make sure you stay employed so basically it is 22% "for life". And yes, getting people to sign up - even those paying the same carrier full price - is difficult.


Yup... some people just don't like free money. They wouldn't mind it, of course, but not if it takes ANY effort on their part. Another great example is that last year, I told 7 family members / friends / co-workers, etc. about a checking account that pays 4.09% interest. They were skeptical at first, but I said there are a few catches: you have to use their debit card 12x a month (everybody uses their credit card at least 12x a month anyways, so just use a different card -- don't even have to enter the pin, just use their card like a credit card) and do 1 bill pay a month (which everybody also does anyways) through them. Not ONE person signed up. Haha... everybody said "sounds like too much of a hassle!" even though they are already doing the same exact thing at Bank Of America for 0.05% interest.

Oh well! :rolleyes:

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:13 PM

It is aggravating that we get these price increases every year, but we have to remember all of the providers satellite and cable do it, on a yearly basis. I just checked my local cable and to get what I have with DirecTV through them, it would cost me another $31.00 a month.
I just wish the percentage of my income increased as much as the price increases of the programing packages do each year. :rolleyes:


I just checked FIOS, and they're $65/month less than D*. If I bundle the TV-Internet-Phone service together, it's $75/month total for two years ($65 first year, $85 second year). So the FIOS TV service is $10/month. I also get a free HD whole-home DVR for a year and a free SD box for life. And more channels and better HD.

The price increase forced me to realize I'm an idiot for staying with D*. (I checked not to long ago, and the price was within $10 of D*). But it's been a good 16 years.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:23 PM

I just checked FIOS, and they're $65/month less than D*. If I bundle the TV-Internet-Phone service together, it's $75/month total for two years ($65 first year, $85 second year). So the FIOS TV service is $10/month. I also get a free HD whole-home DVR for a year and a free SD box for life. And more channels and better HD.

The price increase forced me to realize I'm an idiot for staying with D*. (I checked not to long ago, and the price was within $10 of D*). But it's been a good 16 years.


Thats just a promo price. After the promo is over, it goes up a lot.

There are "undocumented" discounts with DTV. -$10/mo for HD for 2yrs if you do auto-pay and an additional -$5/mo if you bundle with a land line like AT&T.

I would *love* to find something cheaper, but there really isn't anything after you look past promo prices. Kind of a PITA to switch providers every 2 yrs.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:32 PM

You can do autobill pay through EFT with them but it has to be setup through DIRECTV and not your bank.

Processing fees for checks are still cheaper per transaction than most CC fees when dealing with the average monthly payment DIRECTV gets.

The real benefit to automatic payment for companies is that it helps make their cash flow more consistent.


I was not talking about Electronic Funds Transfers. I was talking about checks being sent via electronic methods. When a bank's autopay system has a lot of checks going to a company, most of the time they do it electronically instead of paper. Two different things. EFT are set up through D* and the other is controlled totally by the customer.

The cash flow is more consistent but in addition, they eliminate float. Float is the time it takes a check to go from a depositor's bank to the payee's bank. Interest is most likely paid to D* based on how much is in their account.

I'ts hard to determine what it costs D* to process all those checks when you consider check handling and posting to accounts when you consider labor costs and benefits. Obviously it's to D*'s benefit to do auto bill pay or they wouldn't do it.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:38 PM

Thats just a promo price. After the promo is over, it goes up a lot.

There are "undocumented" discounts with DTV. -$10/mo for HD for 2yrs if you do auto-pay and an additional -$5/mo if you bundle with a land line like AT&T.

I would *love* to find something cheaper, but there really isn't anything after you look past promo prices. Kind of a PITA to switch providers every 2 yrs.


Promo prices that are good for two years guaranteed are fine with me. That's the main reason I switched to FiOS in October -- I'm saving $40 per month. The hassle, and I agree it is indeed a hassle, of switching providers every two years is worth my total savings of at least $960.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:48 PM

The entitlement mentality continues.


I always enjoy seeing the "E" card being played.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 02:54 PM

Promo prices that are good for two years guaranteed are fine with me. That's the main reason I switched to FiOS in October -- I'm saving $40 per month. The hassle, and I agree it is indeed a hassle, of switching providers every two years is worth my total savings of at least $960.


Ok, so you are saving $1000 for two years (assuming you have all applicable "undocumented" DTV discounts)... does your time & hassle count for anything?

$1000 savings spread out over 2yrs? I don't know that I would bother for that because I would factor in changing out the equipment, the 4hrs I'd have to stay at home for the install, loss of recordings, season passes, to do list, etc.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 03:28 PM

Thats just a promo price. After the promo is over, it goes up a lot.

There are "undocumented" discounts with DTV. -$10/mo for HD for 2yrs if you do auto-pay and an additional -$5/mo if you bundle with a land line like AT&T.

I would *love* to find something cheaper, but there really isn't anything after you look past promo prices. Kind of a PITA to switch providers every 2 yrs.


I have a land line through Verizon but when I called to get a discount I was told that's only in areas where FIOS TV wasn't available. That could be the case with AT&T as well.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 03:32 PM

Yep! which is the reason I swapped my xbox360 for a PS3 this past month. Also got my Roku box as well.

A good outside antenna is all that is left till I can get rid of the big bill each month. Once the NHL season is over I am gone. About the only thing that can change my mind at this point is if they substantially upgrade their 3D lineup.


You are almost verbatim what I'm strongly considering doing. The problem is I've tried an HD antenna several times in the years I've had an HDTV and i have nothing but problems with the signal. I've bought an outside one but I don't know how to install it or really who to even call.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 04:01 PM

I have a land line through Verizon but when I called to get a discount I was told that's only in areas where FIOS TV wasn't available. That could be the case with AT&T as well.


I have AT&T and bundled. Might want to try playing CSR roulette a few times :).

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 04:21 PM

I always enjoy seeing the "E" card being played.


I've been considering starting a petition to ban it's use on DBSTalk... :P

Sure, there are some posters I've read who certainly do fit that bill... and I'm sure our installers and CSRs who post here deal with them quite frequently, but it gets used here FAR too much and FAR too liberally.


While I'm upset by the price increase, I knew it was coming, so I see no need to complain about it myself. Though I may have to suspend my service some this year due to financial reasons, I intend to stick with DirecTV a while longer. Another year or two, and I will probably have to give it up... even though a smarter me would give it up this year.

I believe I'm entitled to a reliable service for the prices set by DirecTV... HD simulcasts when possible, reliable equipment in order to view their service, and good customer service when I have an issue.

Other than that, I'm good. :)

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 04:27 PM

an additional -$5/mo if you bundle with a land line like AT&T.


Isn't that only for new DSL customers only?

Windstream is listed on DirecTV's bundle page (even though Windstream is partnered with Dish Network), and I believe I looked into it and was told the bundle was only for those who signed up with Windstream through DirecTV or something?!?! :confused:

I'm not sure it would have done me any good anyway, as I subscribe to Greenstreak... Windstream's topless (not quite naked) DSL... which I'm not sure would be eligible anyway... :rolleyes:

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 04:48 PM

Ok, so you are saving $1000 for two years (assuming you have all applicable "undocumented" DTV discounts)... does your time & hassle count for anything?

$1000 savings spread out over 2yrs? I don't know that I would bother for that because I would factor in changing out the equipment, the 4hrs I'd have to stay at home for the install, loss of recordings, season passes, to do list, etc.

Here in NJ Fios has deals where I would be saving like $900 first year ($250 gift card) and like $600 2nd. But $500/yr might be 8 tanks of gas, or food, or clothes, or utilities, or dinners out or whatever. For some folks it's a LOT more than it seems to other folks. Don't knock $500+/yr until you need it. Point is, you have to stop somewhere. Sometimes a little hassle is the price you have to pay.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 05:29 PM

Isn't that only for new DSL customers only?

I got the bundle discount just by asking. I didn't sign up through AT&T and had already been a customer for 20 years when I got DirecTV. I didn't even have DSL at the time, just a land line and long distance.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 05:49 PM

I got the bundle discount just by asking. I didn't sign up through AT&T and had already been a customer for 20 years when I got DirecTV. I didn't even have DSL at the time, just a land line and long distance.


Something I need to keep in mind then.

I know Windstream has bundles with Dish Network, but I think you have to go through Windstream customer service, and I suspect you may be treated like a red-headed step-child compared to someone's who is solely a Dish Network customer. However, I'm guessing their deal with DirecTV is different? Just a discount sorta thing?!?!

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 06:28 PM

Ok, so you are saving $1000 for two years (assuming you have all applicable "undocumented" DTV discounts)... does your time & hassle count for anything?

$1000 savings spread out over 2yrs? I don't know that I would bother for that because I would factor in changing out the equipment, the 4hrs I'd have to stay at home for the install, loss of recordings, season passes, to do list, etc.


If your DVR dies, and you get a "new" one from D*, you'd have to do the same thing. I'm not sure what your point is here.

Verizon lets you enter in whatever they are offering for new customers once your contract is up. It's a new contract, but I'll be astonished if I ever pay full price.

$55 FIOS Internet & phone + $80 D* vs. $80 for everything. Why would I pay almost twice as much for slightly worse service? FIOS has more channels, better quality HD, and no rain fade. It's $1320 in savings.

I'll suspend D* for six months and see what happens. I'm not taking down the dish or messing with the cables. If I do quit, all I have to do to switch back to D* is to have them ship me the boxes and plug them back in. Since I'll be a new customer, I'll get free HD for life and whatever promotion they're running at the time.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 06:30 PM

I hate price increases as much as the next person.I will just pass the fast food driveup window a few times a month and eat the poor mans steak Bologna and a hand full of chips.Did i mention i love my Directv.

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 07:12 PM

I've been considering starting a petition to ban it's use on DBSTalk... :P

It seems the word is thrown out there to make us feel guilty for trying to get the best service for the lowest cost. It won't work for me! :)

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 12:59 AM

Play station 3 offers NFL Sunday Ticket through their system, so yes.

Per their website, you can ONLY get this if you can't get DTV service.

So if you cancel your DTV service now, and then try to sign up for this next year (assuming they even offer it again), it might not work.

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:38 AM

If your DVR dies, and you get a "new" one from D*, you'd have to do the same thing. I'm not sure what your point is here.


Your DVR dies every 2 years? Wow! you have pretty bad luck I'd say! :D

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 10:21 AM

Your DVR dies every 2 years? Wow! you have pretty bad luck I'd say! :D


Only the HR2x boxes, I have a 10 year old Tivo that's still running. :D

But really, when I switched from my Tivo to the HR2x, it only took 20 minutes to set up 35 season passes. Either get a separate TV or just take pictures of the old list using a digital camera. That way you get the shows in the same order with the same settings. It's not a big deal to switch DVRs. It's certainly worth two mortgage payments.




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