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#1 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 08:32 AM

Receiver DECA used as a Broadband DECA - The open coax connection (on right side of image) will be connected into your SWiM network via either an open port on your existing splitter or by adding a new splitter. The Ethernet cable connects to your router.
http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1273935586
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#2 OFFLINE   Steve

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 08:56 AM

My PI is a little different, as you can see:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1274108114

Close up of the part #:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1274108114

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#3 OFFLINE   MurrayW

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 11:09 AM

See this link under the other main DECA thread for my DECA setup.
http://www.dbstalk.c...406#post2459406
http://www.dbstalk.c...85&d=1274115523

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 11:42 AM

Update (2/8/2011): Since DECAs, Broadband DECAs, BS Filters and splitters are readily available cheap on eBay, and installers finally understand how to install WHDS, I really don't see a need to use this configuration any more. :nono2:
I don't use it, and don't recommend that you use it. However, it does work.


If you're adventurous and one of your CAT5-attached receivers is near your router or a switch with an extra connection, put the DECA in line with the receiver coax connection (which simultaneously powers the DECA and is a Band Stop filter), then plug the Ethernet cable from the DECA into the router/switch (leave the receiver connected to the router/switch). Voilla! Internet connection with no additional splitter, power supply or Band Stop filter. Yes, I've done this, it works, but as always, YMMV. Note that the bridge will go down briefly when the receiver reboots.

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Warning! Warning! Danger, Will Robinson!
This configuration is not supported by D*, some folks will tell you it won't work, and it will quite possibly cause a rift in the space-time continuum and destroy the universe. ;)

The single DECA is certainly a 100Mbps bottleneck to the 175Mbps DECA cloud that would not exist if there were one DECA to the DVR and another DECA to the Home Network. A quick worst-case engineering analysis shows that you may saturate this bandwidth if the DVR is streaming to a receiver in the DECA cloud and you have a dozen or so DVRs* in the DECA cloud streaming video from the Home Network. :D

* would exceed a SWiM-16 capacity by 11 tuners, unless most DVRs were limited to a single tuner.

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 11:45 AM

http://www.dbstalk.c...29&d=1273790719
http://www.dbstalk.c...28&d=1273790719
http://www.dbstalk.c...01&d=1261069733
http://www.dbstalk.c...70&d=1274032259

As nice and clean as this dual SWiM-16 setup looks, there is a problem with the cascaded SWiM-16 being 10 dB lower than the primary SWiM-16. This will cause it to lose signal before the primary SWiM-16 during heavy rain [rainfade]. This can be compensated for by using an amplifier between the SWiMs

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Edited by veryoldschool, 28 March 2012 - 07:40 PM.

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#6 OFFLINE   sigma1914

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 08:48 PM

Here's another working setup.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 04:34 PM

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1278904414

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 10:19 PM

http://www.dbstalk.c...27&d=1294105190

NOTE: To please the paranoid gods of DBSTalk.....my setup in the family room would not be supported by DIRECTV in the highly unlikely situation that it caused a performance degradation of the DECA cloud.

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#9 OFFLINE   veryoldschool

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 05:20 PM

Using a DECA to bridge to your home network:
http://www.dbstalk.c...40&d=1279075740

Then came the BB DECA
http://www.dbstalk.c...73&d=1282172068


why you can't diplex anymore:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1279031954

"Normal" DECA connection to receiver
http://www.dbstalk.c...77&d=1279075740

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Edited by veryoldschool, 08 January 2012 - 05:50 PM.

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#10 OFFLINE   daniellee

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:02 AM

Before DECA...

http://www.dbstalk.c...59&d=1185453864

After DECA...

http://www.dbstalk.c...69&d=1281278577

Compression connectors as standoffs...

http://www.dbstalk.c...70&d=1281278577

Before and after DECA.

Note: Because the SWM-16’s tend to run quite hot, I used 4 compression connectors as standoffs to allow better air circulation around it. It runs noticeably cooler to the touch this way.

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#11 OFFLINE   veryoldschool

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 12:50 PM

There seems to be an issue sometimes with the SWiM PI being too close to the receivers/DECAs:

http://www.dbstalk.c...53&d=1285094774
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 11:59 AM

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1290621499

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Edited by veryoldschool, 08 January 2012 - 05:35 PM.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 06:37 PM

Here's my SWM16/DECA rebuild:

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SL5 on the roof

On left, Sonora Slope Compensator, Amp and Polarity Locker top to bottom, loops around at the bottom to the input of the SWM16. Lower right is the PI for the SWM box. Broadband DECA to Internet on above the SWM16, then the 4 port greenlabel splitters.

2 HR-21's
4 R22's
1 H21

4 are DECA, rest will be when the remaining 3 DECA adapters get here.

Other than same legacy compression connectors on the main feeds coming from the dish, all compression connectors. Someday I'll rebuild that too, but all signals are 95+

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:26 AM

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1310680751

The hardwired ethernet connection:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1331485689

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Edited by veryoldschool, 11 March 2012 - 11:09 AM.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:44 AM

This device has several options to be hooked up.
I'm using it just like a BB DECA, and not using the pass through it has [terminated output].
Another way is to use it as "a replacement" for a white DECA connected to a receiver, "BUT" you also need to use a BSF. So you connect it in "pass through" mode, with ethernet to the receiver and a BSF on the SAT input.
You can also use it without DECA as a wireless adapter too.
Very flexible. :)

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1311788989

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1311788989

^ now you can replace the DECA with a BSF and connect the ethernet to the DECAW.

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Edited by veryoldschool, 08 January 2012 - 06:00 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 10:39 AM

If you have one shorter cable run and have four receivers, plus the BB DECA, this may give you a stronger signal than using an 8-way splitter:

http://www.dbstalk.c...44&d=1313684505
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Posted 25 October 2011 - 01:20 PM

How to only use a 4-way splitter and have four receiver and internet:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1319570397

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Edited by veryoldschool, 08 January 2012 - 05:52 PM.

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 01:50 PM

How to only use a 4-way splitter and have four receiver and internet:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1319570397

Might as well show off the DECA performance:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1319572165
http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1319572165

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Edited by veryoldschool, 08 January 2012 - 05:54 PM.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 11:00 AM

The PI has a capacitor to block DC, which can cause some problems with the SAT signal from the SWiM and the DECA signal from the receivers.
The SWM8 as a minimum 15' coax for the PI to resolve this poor RF match of the DC block. DECA also seems to have the same issue.
Adding a longer length of coax or a splitter over comes this problem.
While terminations are good to use, they also are just wasting signal power into a resistor, so it's better configure the system so the least terminations are needed.

Here is one way to position the PI so it has a splitter between it and the DECAs:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1319570397

I've added to the bulletin images for the 24s and their DECA problem with a PI, to show where a BB DECA [or another receiver] can be connected and still not have problems:

http://www.dbstalk.c...=1&d=1319906912

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Edited by veryoldschool, 08 January 2012 - 05:56 PM.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 02:38 PM

This thread is provided as a reference for connected home images. As the need arises, the staff will update it with additional images.

Edited by Stuart Sweet, 05 January 2012 - 03:25 PM.

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