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#1 OFFLINE   bluegras

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:01 AM

when will dish go 24/7 RSNs IN HD

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 09:05 AM

when will dish go 24/7 RSNs IN HD



When the price is right and they have room on the satellites.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:51 AM

if they would dump 1/2 of the shopping and religious stations they'd have plenty of room

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:56 AM

if they would dump 1/2 of the shopping and religious stations they'd have plenty of room


You do know that they pay to be on Dish, right? You do know that helps keep your bill lower, right? You do know that even if they took down those channels the other channels would more than likely go up, right?

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:13 PM

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:30 PM

if they would dump 1/2 of the shopping and religious stations they'd have plenty of room

#1 - Most of the "religious" channels are there as "public interest" channels, a class required to be carried by law. Yes, I realize that not all "public interest" channels interest the public (HITN, HHS, LINK, UCTV , ALMA, V-ME and especially FSTV don't get tuned in my house and it has been a while since Baby First, Pentagon and ARTS have been watched) but that is the class the channels are in. 4% of DISH's channel lineup is reserved for non-commercial channels by law - so even if the ones you didn't like got pulled, they would, by law, need to be replaced by other channels in the same non-commercial category.

#2 - Ignoring the above law I suggest a channel count and some math. Count up the "shopping and religious channels". Divide by two to determine the number of channels "half" of them take up. Then divide by 12 to determine how many transponders that half of the "shopping and religious channels" consume. For each full transponder one could empty, only 8 HD channels can be added (although some transponders have nine HDs). Removing a few SD channels does not create "plenty of room".

What can be done is move to 8PSK transponders, which allow more channels per transponder and frees up space without deleting SD channels (especially those required to be carried by law). Unfortunately, moving to 8PSK requires changing out receivers that cannot handle 8PSK. DISH is working on that.

DISH could also buy more satellite space and add more dishes to people's house ... but one dish is preferred by most consumers.

Until space is freed up the HD DISH carries is a choice. DISH has chosen to carry more basic channels and more full time PPV movie channels. Perhaps not the choice you would make but it is the choice DISH made.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 03:30 PM

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 01:49 PM

#1 - Most of the "religious" channels are there as "public interest" channels, a class required to be carried by law. Yes, I realize that not all "public interest" channels interest the public (HITN, HHS, LINK, UCTV , ALMA, V-ME and especially FSTV don't get tuned in my house and it has been a while since Baby First, Pentagon and ARTS have been watched) but that is the class the channels are in. 4% of DISH's channel lineup is reserved for non-commercial channels by law - so even if the ones you didn't like got pulled, they would, by law, need to be replaced by other channels in the same non-commercial category.

#2 - Ignoring the above law I suggest a channel count and some math. Count up the "shopping and religious channels". Divide by two to determine the number of channels "half" of them take up. Then divide by 12 to determine how many transponders that half of the "shopping and religious channels" consume. For each full transponder one could empty, only 8 HD channels can be added (although some transponders have nine HDs). Removing a few SD channels does not create "plenty of room".

What can be done is move to 8PSK transponders, which allow more channels per transponder and frees up space without deleting SD channels (especially those required to be carried by law). Unfortunately, moving to 8PSK requires changing out receivers that cannot handle 8PSK. DISH is working on that.

DISH could also buy more satellite space and add more dishes to people's house ... but one dish is preferred by most consumers.

Until space is freed up the HD DISH carries is a choice. DISH has chosen to carry more basic channels and more full time PPV movie channels. Perhaps not the choice you would make but it is the choice DISH made.


In addition, throw in having to carry, in HD; ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and PBS in all the markets. Not to mention, "must carry" for all locals, even though some of the "locals" are duplicated on DISH (ION, Telemundo, TeleFutura, Univision, etc.).

So, to add a number of HD channels, DISH would have to increase its satellite fleet. Unless a new compression technology is implemented that effectively allows 12 or 16 channels per transponder, as opposed to the current 8. The other option, is swap out all their SD only receivers and replace them with HD only; dropping duplicate SD channels. Though, it may be much cheaper to expand the satellite fleet.

The bottom line. HD is a problem for cable and DirecTV, as well. There is only so much a cable or satellite can handle, because HD requires so much bandwidth.




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