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#1 OFFLINE   majikmarker

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 04:48 PM

Based on the ratings, I guess I already know the answer to this question but....Did anyone else watch this? It was awful!

I'm wondering because during the opening on-foot chase around the Lincoln Memorial, I could have sworn I saw two dimentional cutouts (or Photoshop-type additions) instead of actual "extras".

Did anyone else notice this? or was it just me/my TV, or how it was shot.

It seemed like it was made on the cheap but I have never noticed something like this on other pilots.

Just curious...

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 04:55 PM

I didn't notice any cut outs but I liked the show.

I did, however, see a couple of Cylons though. I'll keep it on the Series Link for a while I think.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 05:57 PM

I strongly dislike ending the opening scene with the jump back six weeks.

The rest was just OK IMO. I'll keep it on the recording schedule for now but no telling when I will get around to watching any more. I read somewhere that NBC ordered a full 22 episodes so it will likely be around for awhile.

Do like the ex-Cylons though. :)

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:35 PM

I'm wondering because during the opening on-foot chase around the Lincoln Memorial, I could have sworn I saw two dimentional cutouts (or Photoshop-type additions) instead of actual "extras".

Since I haven't watched it yet, I'll check.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:59 AM

OK, picked up the "cutouts" effect - my wife saw it faster than I did. I believe it was the result of the deliberate overexposure of that scene as when I froze it and advanced it in slomo the people were clearly extras.

We enjoyed the premier. The show has a solid story, good writing and superb acting. The ongoing plot is likely to be complex while weekly stories I'm sure will be like any other criminal law practice procedural.

As I noted in my ratings thread, if you didn't see the premier with all the backstory I don't know how you're going to pick everything that's going on. Whoever at NBC bought this show deserves congratulations. Whoever set up the schedule is an idiot.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 05:27 AM

NBC just can't catch a break. The overnight ratings were a disaster, maybe in part because of the OT in the Denver/Pittsburgh football game. But you'd think they could get more people to sample such a high-profile show with a well-known story.

I'm beginning to think NBC could put on nekkid supermodels and everybody would still watch an NCIS rerun on CBS ;)
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 06:11 AM

For some perspective on the ratings, it was NBCs lowest rated regular season drama premiere ever, and 46% lower than the premiere of The Cape.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 07:11 AM

I'm beginning to think NBC could put on nekkid supermodels and everybody would still watch an NCIS rerun on CBS ;)

You may be right about that! :P

We watched The Firm last night and enjoyed it. But we also enjoyed Prime Suspect, Life and Studio 60, so I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:37 AM

Rats. I missed recording the premier due to an uncaught schedule conflict (I could easily have removed the conflict by cancelling a cable-channel program that would be repeated later). No problem, I'll just grab it from NBC VOD -- except, at least as of last night, it wasn't available there. :nono2:

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:46 AM

Watched about 30 minutes........it's a no go for me.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:01 AM

Rats. I missed recording the premier due to an uncaught schedule conflict (I could easily have removed the conflict by cancelling a cable-channel program that would be repeated later). No problem, I'll just grab it from NBC VOD -- except, at least as of last night, it wasn't available there.


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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:04 AM

We missed the premier also, but noticed that it is ariing again this weekend. The second episode and future episodes are now on Thursday nights starting this week.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 10:27 AM

My wife liked it, but I thought it was oppressively dark and foreboding. Of course, it was the pilot, so there was no room for character development. Without it, I can see the potential for the same traps that befell "V" and "Flash Forward" -- an overinsistence on a relentlessly dark story arc without interesting characters.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 08:25 PM

I think it would have made a better one hour show. Did anyone notice Josh Lucas is a ringer for Grisham? Surprised it did not have the Southern nuance seen in his books.

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 12:17 AM

I did, however, see a couple of Cylons though.


Need I be interested?:confused::confused::confused:

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 06:13 AM

Need I be interested?:confused::confused::confused:


It's worth a look with these two involved (IMO of course).

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 04:48 PM

Bad news, the ratings for the Thursday episode were down to a 1.0 - even lower than Prime Suspect got in that time slot before it was cancelled.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 04:35 PM

Watched the pilot and the first episode today (snowy weather here, so it's a stay-at-home saturday...) Yeah, the pilot was slow, especially the first hour and the double flash-back at the beginning was a bit annoying. But I'd say the show improved in the second hour and in the first one-hour episode.

It's difficult to judge the show without thinking of the movie. The show doesn't have the exhilarating tension of the movie and in some ways the visual references to the movie only make it worse. I also think the actress playing Abby, the wife, is fairly weak here, with no real definition.

And as much as I like Callum Keith Rennie, his Ray is nothing like the Ray in the movie - hapless bumbler vs. smart and streetwise. In several scenes I thought he upstaged Josh Lucas, which a supporting character shouldn't do.

Sounds like a hate the show, but I don't really, it's not half bad, but it just doesn't stand up to what was a roller-coaster ride fun time of a movie.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 01:57 PM

Looks like The Firm is being sent to Saturday night to die quietly. Link

I've only seen the pilot, have the rest recorded. Is it worth bothering with?

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 02:00 PM

Personally I don't think so. It's one thing for a great series that just can't get the ratings, but The Firm just isn't one of them.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 02:07 PM

Looks like The Firm is being sent to Saturday night to die quietly. Link

I've only seen the pilot, have the rest recorded. Is it worth bothering with?


Personally I don't think so. It's one thing for a great series that just can't get the ratings, but The Firm just isn't one of them.


On that note...Deleted all episodes.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 02:32 PM

I think it would have made a better one hour show. Did anyone notice Josh Lucas is a ringer for Grisham? Surprised it did not have the Southern nuance seen in his books.


My wife mentioned it both times that we watched the show. She is quite the Grisham fan.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 03:01 PM

Looks like The Firm is being sent to Saturday night to die quietly. Link

As I noted in the ratings thread, "The Firm" pulled 62% fewer in the demo and 31% fewer in total viewers than the two half-hour comedies averaged last year. And one of those comedies was "Outsourced."

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 04:08 PM

So far my wife and I are still watching and find it worth the time. Hopefully if it doesn't last that NBC at least shows remaining episodes they have in the can.I,m still don't understand why NBC gave an even better show Prime Suspect in same time slot a quick hook.They will never build any following for their network at this rate.NBC gets the worst ratings on a whole so, they should just bite the bullet and let some shows gain a audience. Instead of rapidly replacing or even as Harry's Law keep moving it all over the schedule which hasn't worked either.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:44 PM

I know this show is cancelled and the end (or cliffhanger) is near, but this is one of the best shows I've watched in a while. It's almost on par with how I felt when Journeyman died. Probably the only difference is that I expected it this time whereas with Journeyman I somewhat expected it to continue.
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