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Alcatraz - Series Premier Jan. 16, 2012


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#26 OFFLINE   Scott Kocourek

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:39 AM

We got throught the second episode last night. I think it will be a keeper, although there are a few things that concern me like why these people come back after 50 years and are not completely freaked out at the changes. How the guy in the second episode looked at a modern mini security camera and knew that someone was watching him. The little things may get to me.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:52 AM

We got throught the second episode last night. I think it will be a keeper, although there are a few things that concern me like why these people come back after 50 years and are not completely freaked out at the changes. How the guy in the second episode looked at a modern mini security camera and knew that someone was watching him. The little things may get to me.


I wondered that too at first but then thought there's probably an explanation for that. Since we don't know how they are coming back, or how they even left, yet it's possible they already somehow know stuff like that.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:51 AM

I wondered that too at first but then thought there's probably an explanation for that. Since we don't know how they are coming back, or how they even left, yet it's possible they already somehow know stuff like that.

Well if the goal of the show, in order to keep you coming back for more, is to leave a ton of unanswered questions? Then the show is very successful.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:54 AM

I liked it. I thought it was very good for a premier. Very few shows have really good first episodes (Lost is an obvious exception). Most shows take a few episodes to find their way, and get better as they go along.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:56 AM

Well if the goal of the show, in order to keep you coming back for more, is to leave a ton of unanswered questions? Then the show is very successful.


The goal of pretty much every show out there is to get you to come back next week because of unanswered questions...
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:00 AM

We got throught the second episode last night. I think it will be a keeper, although there are a few things that concern me like why these people come back after 50 years and are not completely freaked out at the changes. How the guy in the second episode looked at a modern mini security camera and knew that someone was watching him. The little things may get to me.

Time will tell.


I also looked at it that with the second episode we weren't following him around from the time he showed up. He could have already had his "shock and awe" moment, but it wasn't shown to us.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:53 AM

I liked it, definitely a keeper.

...Asking for a ticket on the return from Alcatraz, how silly was that (I know, the point was he actually had one in his pocket -mystery!- but really?


Yeah, that stuck out a bit!
Also, being sent on an errand- to the gun shop for example- Bam! they're off the rock and in the shop with no boat, car or walking, instantly (yes, I know cuts are a part of movie/show making!) whereas the actual would take at least a half hour.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 11:00 AM

@Phrelin- Loved your synopsis!

Perhaps we'll find out that for the last 50 years these "gents" have been playing in Zombie movies, thus learning about modern day SF. The big secret will be how they got upgraded from zombiedom to their physical selves from 50 years back.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 11:28 AM

Yeah, that stuck out a bit!
Also, being sent on an errand- to the gun shop for example- Bam! they're off the rock and in the shop with no boat, car or walking, instantly (yes, I know cuts are a part of movie/show making!) whereas the actual would take at least a half hour.


If we had to see them go from the island to the mainland every time they do the show would get VERY boring. Same with going to the hidden location where they are keeping the re-captured. For that they established that it was way out in the woods somewhere once, that's good enough for me. :)
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:25 PM

Under Alcatraz seems to be a very inconvenient place for their headquarters. Its got to take at least 30 minutes to get to the boat, back to the dock, and into a car. That seems like a lot of wasted time.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:34 PM

Under Alcatraz seems to be a very inconvenient place for their headquarters. Its got to take at least 30 minutes to get to the boat, back to the dock, and into a car. That seems like a lot of wasted time.


Yeah, but it sounds cool to have a hidden "bat cave" under Alcatraz. :)
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:44 PM

Under Alcatraz seems to be a very inconvenient place for their headquarters. Its got to take at least 30 minutes to get to the boat, back to the dock, and into a car. That seems like a lot of wasted time.


Thank Heavens for cuts! :rolleyes:

I bet, though, that a few times we'll see some operation getting to or from the island in heavy seas, including the dark and stormy night bits, where the urgency to get there is high.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:56 PM

I bet, though, that a few times we'll see some operation getting to or from the island in heavy seas, including the dark and stormy night bits, where the urgency to get there is high.


And when they need some time to "discuss the case". :lol:
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 04:11 PM

We got throught the second episode last night. I think it will be a keeper, although there are a few things that concern me like why these people come back after 50 years and are not completely freaked out at the changes. How the guy in the second episode looked at a modern mini security camera and knew that someone was watching him. The little things may get to me.

Time will tell.

I thought of this too, but then I realized that they showed a close-up of the camera, then they showed him looking at the camera, then he addressed it directly. Clearly they were sending the audience a message about these people. It's something that they will have to explain the future, but for now we are expected to accept it. After all, if the camera would have thrown them, then "modern" money would look like Monopoly dollars to them, but it doesn't. Somehow, they HAVE been brought up to date. The sniper still used the gun he was the most confortable with though. They each, so far, seem to have come back with a mission, but are allowed leeway to do their own personal business along the way.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:01 PM

There have been surveillance cameras in the US since the early 1960's. It is certainly not incenceivable that he figured out that it was just a smaller, shinier version of what he knew to exist in 1963.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:59 PM

I finally caught up on the pilot and the next episode, haven't seen the episode from 1/23 yet.

I liked what I saw, but clearly see the hand behind "Lost" at the wheel, feeding out some information, leaving clues, again showing us numbers... but it's enough to keep me coming back.

So far we've seen two prisoners return, but no guards. We also saw that the doctor is from 1963, which was a nice surprise I did NOT expect, but answers Hurley's question about why she was so nonplussed about everything.

I wasn't bothered by the '63 cons not being concerned about the changes over the last 48 years - I'm sure there will be some explanation for it. To me it's apparent that something changed with the first con: he was arrested for robbing a "post office" and went to federal prison, got involved in a fight and someone else died, went to Alcatraz. By Hurley's accounts, he was NOT a violent person when he went in to Alcatraz. But when he came out in 2012, he was very comfortable attacking and killing. So ... what was done to him between '63 and now that changed him?

Will be fun to find out...

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 09:46 AM

Hurley? :lol:

I know, it's really hard to separate him from that character.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 12:20 PM

Easier to use the names I know than the new names I'm learning! ;)

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:47 PM

On the wall of the '63s room they have pictures of 256 prisoners and 46 guards. But as Hurley pointed out when he and Rebecca went down to the room under the barracks, the guards lived on the rock with their families. With the kids going back and forth to school in San Francisco by boat every day. So there should have been 20 to 30 wives and an unknown number of children taken as well.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:46 PM

On the wall of the '63s room they have pictures of 256 prisoners and 46 guards. But as Hurley pointed out when he and Rebecca went down to the room under the barracks, the guards lived on the rock with their families. With the kids going back and forth to school in San Francisco by boat every day. So there should have been 20 to 30 wives and an unknown number of children taken as well.


Since it was in the process of closing, it's feasible that the wives and kids had been removed already, making new homes on the mainland.
But it's up to the writers.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 08:59 PM

Since it was in the process of closing, it's feasible that the wives and kids had been removed already, making new homes on the mainland.
But it's up to the writers.


I think that is the most logical scenario.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 08:59 PM

Since it was in the process of closing, it's feasible that the wives and kids had been removed already, making new homes on the mainland.
But it's up to the writers.
I hope folks can use the name of today's characters; some of us don't know Hurley from Ben Hur.

I thought that the 'authorities" in 1963 decided to announce the closing only AFTER everyone had disappeared... in other words, a cover up. In that case, I guess there should be some family members on the wall, along with maintenance and medical staffs for that matter.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 09:17 PM

I thought that the 'authorities" in 1963 decided to announce the closing only AFTER everyone had disappeared... in other words, a cover up. In that case, I guess there should be some family members on the wall, along with maintenance and medical staffs for that matter.


Either scenario works fine; we'll see what the writers come up with! I missed the coverup dialog, but like the idea!

Heh: Wonder if all living creatures were so transmutated.... so we'd have dogs, rats, fleas and cockroaches in the mix!
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 09:18 PM

Unless all these guards came from extremely small families, relatives are going to raise questions.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 10:05 PM

I thought that the 'authorities" in 1963 decided to announce the closing only AFTER everyone had disappeared... in other words, a cover up. In that case, I guess there should be some family members on the wall, along with maintenance and medical staffs for that matter.


No, it was closing anyways. In the opening scene the boat is coming back to get more prisoners for transfer.
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