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Alcatraz - Series Premier Jan. 16, 2012


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#41 OFFLINE   Drew2k

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 10:59 PM

I finally caught up on the pilot and the next episode, haven't seen the episode from 1/23 yet.

I liked what I saw, but clearly see the hand behind "Lost" at the wheel, feeding out some information, leaving clues, again showing us numbers... but it's enough to keep me coming back.

So far we've seen two prisoners return, but no guards. We also saw that the doctor is from 1963, which was a nice surprise I did NOT expect, but answers Hurley's question about why she was so nonplussed about everything.

I wasn't bothered by the '63 cons not being concerned about the changes over the last 48 years - I'm sure there will be some explanation for it. To me it's apparent that something changed with the first con: he was arrested for robbing a "post office" and went to federal prison, got involved in a fight and someone else died, went to Alcatraz. By Hurley's accounts, he was NOT a violent person when he went in to Alcatraz. But when he came out in 2012, he was very comfortable attacking and killing. So ... what was done to him between '63 and now that changed him?

Will be fun to find out...

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#42 OFFLINE   renbutler

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 09:46 AM

Hurley? :lol:

I know, it's really hard to separate him from that character.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 12:20 PM

Easier to use the names I know than the new names I'm learning! ;)

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:47 PM

On the wall of the '63s room they have pictures of 256 prisoners and 46 guards. But as Hurley pointed out when he and Rebecca went down to the room under the barracks, the guards lived on the rock with their families. With the kids going back and forth to school in San Francisco by boat every day. So there should have been 20 to 30 wives and an unknown number of children taken as well.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:46 PM

On the wall of the '63s room they have pictures of 256 prisoners and 46 guards. But as Hurley pointed out when he and Rebecca went down to the room under the barracks, the guards lived on the rock with their families. With the kids going back and forth to school in San Francisco by boat every day. So there should have been 20 to 30 wives and an unknown number of children taken as well.


Since it was in the process of closing, it's feasible that the wives and kids had been removed already, making new homes on the mainland.
But it's up to the writers.
I hope folks can use the name of today's characters; some of us don't know Hurley from Ben Hur.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 08:59 PM

Since it was in the process of closing, it's feasible that the wives and kids had been removed already, making new homes on the mainland.
But it's up to the writers.


I think that is the most logical scenario.

#47 OFFLINE   Drew2k

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 08:59 PM

Since it was in the process of closing, it's feasible that the wives and kids had been removed already, making new homes on the mainland.
But it's up to the writers.
I hope folks can use the name of today's characters; some of us don't know Hurley from Ben Hur.

I thought that the 'authorities" in 1963 decided to announce the closing only AFTER everyone had disappeared... in other words, a cover up. In that case, I guess there should be some family members on the wall, along with maintenance and medical staffs for that matter.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 09:17 PM

I thought that the 'authorities" in 1963 decided to announce the closing only AFTER everyone had disappeared... in other words, a cover up. In that case, I guess there should be some family members on the wall, along with maintenance and medical staffs for that matter.


Either scenario works fine; we'll see what the writers come up with! I missed the coverup dialog, but like the idea!

Heh: Wonder if all living creatures were so transmutated.... so we'd have dogs, rats, fleas and cockroaches in the mix!
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 09:18 PM

Unless all these guards came from extremely small families, relatives are going to raise questions.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 10:05 PM

I thought that the 'authorities" in 1963 decided to announce the closing only AFTER everyone had disappeared... in other words, a cover up. In that case, I guess there should be some family members on the wall, along with maintenance and medical staffs for that matter.


No, it was closing anyways. In the opening scene the boat is coming back to get more prisoners for transfer.
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Posted 25 January 2012 - 08:08 AM

This weeks episode did give us another non-prisoner returnee. One of my favorite actors.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 12:13 PM

This weeks episode did give us another non-prisoner returnee. One of my favorite actors.

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I might be wrong but wasn't he in the previous episode back treating one of the prisoners.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 01:11 PM

I might be wrong but wasn't he in the previous episode back treating one of the prisoners.


Yes, he was in the pilot.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 02:51 PM

Yes, he was in the pilot.

I remember seeing him previously in the then but I don't remember if he was shown in the now. But at my age I'm doing good to remember what I had for breakfast this morning.:P
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Posted 25 January 2012 - 03:08 PM

This weeks episode did give us another non-prisoner returnee. One of my favorite actors.

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Thanks for posting that. I've always enjoyed his work, but didn't know his name. I probably spent 2 hours this week googling trying to figure out his name since he isn't listed in the credits.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 04:21 PM

Actually, he was in the credits of the pilot. And IMDb now has his "Alcatraz" pilot credit on his page and on the episode page.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 05:10 PM

Actually, he was in the credits of the pilot. And IMDb now has his "Alcatraz" pilot credit on his page and on the episode page.

Thanks. I had only checked the main page on IMDB. And I vaguely recall him listed on the credits in the last episode. I wonder when Fox will include him on the Alcatraz site?
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Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:36 PM

No, it was closing anyways. In the opening scene the boat is coming back to get more prisoners for transfer.

Thanks. I was trying to pay attention, but I must have missed a line in the opening dialog...




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