Jump to content


Welcome to DBSTalk


Sign In 

Create Account
Welcome to DBSTalk. Our community covers all aspects of video delivery solutions including: Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS), Cable Television, and Internet Protocol Television (IPTV). We also have forums to discuss popular television programs, home theater equipment, and internet streaming service providers. Members of our community include experts who can help you solve technical problems, industry professionals, company representatives, and novices who are here to learn.

Like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community. Sign-up is a free and simple process that requires minimal information. Be a part of our community by signing in or creating an account. The Digital Bit Stream starts here!
  • Reply to existing topics or start a discussion of your own
  • Subscribe to topics and forums and get email updates
  • Send private personal messages (PM) to other forum members
  • Customize your profile page and make new friends
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
- - - - -

Sonic Tap : Where's the Jazz?


  • Please log in to reply
25 replies to this topic

#1 OFFLINE   Tiebmbr

Tiebmbr

    Godfather

  • Registered
  • 356 posts
Joined: Mar 27, 2007

Posted 23 January 2012 - 07:53 PM

I'm experiencing an odd issue where my Sonic Tap channels are starting to disappear...so far, it's up to almost a dozen which have been removed. They are neither in my guide, nor directly accessible, and in the last few days, I've lost Jazz, Metro Blend, Piano, PUMP!, Familiar Favorites, Irish, and Tranquility...just to name a few.

I called D*, and the rep told me that I was right, those channels are no longer there, but if I looked through the other channels, I might find one that had music that was similar. Thing is, I knew those channels were all missing because I LIKED THOSE CHANNELS.

So, she didn't really answer my question...where did they go, and are they coming back?!?

Might I add, this is not reciever specific. I have three linked via MRV, and none are recieving thse stations.

Anyone else experiencing this? :confused:
What did Shakespeare say? "Cowards die a thousand deaths, the brave man... only 500"?

...Ads Help To Support This SIte...

#2 OFFLINE   MikeW

MikeW

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 2,540 posts
Joined: May 16, 2002

Posted 23 January 2012 - 08:21 PM

Did you recently change your LNB? These channels are on the 119 sat. If you have a 3LNB setup, you will not get these channels.

I have Piano on right now, so it is not "down".

#3 OFFLINE   scott0702

scott0702

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 214 posts
Joined: Nov 25, 2006

Posted 23 January 2012 - 08:21 PM

I just checked and those channels are still there. Not sure why the rep is confirming those channels are no longer there.

#4 OFFLINE   dpeters11

dpeters11

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 12,892 posts
  • LocationCincinnati
Joined: May 30, 2007

Posted 23 January 2012 - 08:24 PM

I know I've recently listened to Jazz, and I haven't had a 5lnb since MRV went official. I may see if I can look through GCT's data and see when it changed.

#5 OFFLINE   MikeW

MikeW

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 2,540 posts
Joined: May 16, 2002

Posted 23 January 2012 - 08:30 PM

Here are the music channels at 119

807 SonicTap: Rat Pack
815 SonicTap: Holidays & Happenings
824 SonicTap: Groove Lounge
852 SonicTap: Jazz
853 SonicTap: Metro Blend
855 SonicTap: Great Standards
861 SonicTap: PUMP!
865 SonicTap: Piano
870 SonicTap: Fiesta Tropical
873 SonicTap: Regional Mexican
876 SonicTap: Mariachi
877 SonicTap: Carnaval Brasileiro
880 SonicTap: Familiar Favorites
881 SonicTap: Italian Bistro Blend
882 SonicTap: Italian Contemporary
883 SonicTap: Irish
884 SonicTap: Tranquility

#6 OFFLINE   dpeters11

dpeters11

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 12,892 posts
  • LocationCincinnati
Joined: May 30, 2007

Posted 23 January 2012 - 08:39 PM

I knew the international ones were there and Holidays, but some of those others seem recent. At least SatelliteRacer's news dulls the pain a bit.

Edited by dpeters11, 23 January 2012 - 08:45 PM.


#7 OFFLINE   rbpeirce

rbpeirce

    Godfather

  • Registered
  • 407 posts
Joined: Feb 23, 2006

Posted 24 January 2012 - 08:28 AM

I usually listen to 850 and it is still there. I don't like it as much as the XM stations but I haven't found a ST channel I like better.

#8 OFFLINE   Tiebmbr

Tiebmbr

    Godfather

  • Topic Starter
  • Registered
  • 356 posts
Joined: Mar 27, 2007

Posted 24 January 2012 - 10:48 AM

after talking to ANOTHER CSR, she's not seeing those channels either. It appears as though mine new setup with a single LNB is a common installation configuration for MRV, but that "listening to music channels is something she normally doesn't do." She said that this installation, by putting a single LNB on my dish for the SWIM, I would no longer be able to see the 119 sat.

She assured me that they did set it up correctly, (which I suppose they did) but I'd still like to be able to see all the sats that are up there, I mean who wouldn't. She's getting another installer to come out and replace my LNB.

Thanks for the info, DBS buds!

Edited by Tiebmbr, 24 January 2012 - 11:36 AM.

What did Shakespeare say? "Cowards die a thousand deaths, the brave man... only 500"?

#9 OFFLINE   dpeters11

dpeters11

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 12,892 posts
  • LocationCincinnati
Joined: May 30, 2007

Posted 24 January 2012 - 12:31 PM

This is correct. The normal method of installing MRV includes a LNB that doesn't see 119. They can put you back on the old LNB and use a separate SWM module.

According to SatelliteRacer in the new prices thread, Pandora is coming very soon, so at least for Internet connected DVRs, this likely will become less of an issue. In the past it's mostly affected people that listened to some of the International Sonic Tap channels, or wanted to start listening to Christmas music before Thanksgiving.

#10 OFFLINE   PokerJoker

PokerJoker

    Godfather

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 474 posts
  • LocationLas Vegas
Joined: Apr 12, 2008

Posted 24 January 2012 - 12:53 PM

This is correct. The normal method of installing MRV includes a LNB that doesn't see 119. They can put you back on the old LNB and use a separate SWM module.


Be much simpler just to change to an SL5S LNB, still one cable, gets all 5 satellites. The OP will have to rerun Satellite Setup on all receivers, but that's easy.

#11 OFFLINE   Tiebmbr

Tiebmbr

    Godfather

  • Topic Starter
  • Registered
  • 356 posts
Joined: Mar 27, 2007

Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:31 PM

This is correct. The normal method of installing MRV includes a LNB that doesn't see 119. They can put you back on the old LNB and use a separate SWM module.

According to SatelliteRacer in the new prices thread, Pandora is coming very soon, so at least for Internet connected DVRs, this likely will become less of an issue. In the past it's mostly affected people that listened to some of the International Sonic Tap channels, or wanted to start listening to Christmas music before Thanksgiving.


I just think it's odd that a configuration used for MRV would ignore one whole satellite entirely. What if a bunch of other non music-specific stations are moved to 119 in the future? Would I just never be able to receive them?

Even still at the present time, if I'm paying for these 25 or so channels as part of the Premiere Subscription package, I want to get them. Seems rather ridiculous that these CSRs don't understand why that would be when I ask for a solution.

Edited by Tiebmbr, 24 January 2012 - 05:38 PM.

What did Shakespeare say? "Cowards die a thousand deaths, the brave man... only 500"?

#12 OFFLINE   dpeters11

dpeters11

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 12,892 posts
  • LocationCincinnati
Joined: May 30, 2007

Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:50 PM

Be much simpler just to change to an SL5S LNB, still one cable, gets all 5 satellites. The OP will have to rerun Satellite Setup on all receivers, but that's easy.


Not sure why I forgot about that LNB. Though, if someone at some point needed more than 8 tuners, it would be easier for some to add capacity with a normal LNB and swap out for a SWM16.

Edited by dpeters11, 24 January 2012 - 06:07 PM.


#13 OFFLINE   MikeW

MikeW

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 2,540 posts
Joined: May 16, 2002

Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:01 PM

There are also several markets who's SD locals are on 119. Those markets will always have a 5 LNB solution. For the vast majority of folks, not having 119 doesn't seem to affect them. For me, I was having issues because my recievers were not set up correctly. I could see the music channels in the guide, but when I tuned to them, I got different music. I never even thought of the 5 LNB thing until I noticed that the Jack Benny shows were on JLTV (366). When I tuned to that channel, all I got was a black screen. This is when I did the troubleshooting and a phone call to get the 5 LNB. I'm now getting the JLTV channel and I'm enjoying the missing music channels as well.

#14 OFFLINE   awblackmon

awblackmon

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 183 posts
Joined: May 20, 2009

Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:43 PM

I kind of get it that the spanish music would be on the 119 because a lot of the spanish video channels are on 119. As an installer if I am doing a Spanish customer install I will make sure it is with a 5 lnb. That said, I DO NOT understand why DTV does the other music channels on 119. I really think they need to be sent out so that a 3 lnb can be used. I recall a snowy day I had an irrate customer wanting me to climb to the peak of her roof an put on the 5 lab for the holiday music channel. Of course I made her wait until the snow had melted off, but my day would have gone better if I had not had to go up at all.

Edited by awblackmon, 02 February 2012 - 05:43 PM.
spelling


#15 OFFLINE   dod1450

dod1450

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 189 posts
Joined: Dec 16, 2009

Posted 10 February 2012 - 11:04 AM

I have heard the jazz channel with sonic and it is ok. I am very fortuant to have one great jazz channel available OTA, It is KCSM , 91.1 FM and 60.3 TV

#16 OFFLINE   dod1450

dod1450

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 189 posts
Joined: Dec 16, 2009

Posted 10 February 2012 - 11:08 AM

Also I have noticed that the Jewish TV channel is availble on 119. I think D* channel guide ,which has JTV would, make the default of installing a 5LNB dish.

#17 OFFLINE   Devo1237

Devo1237

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 385 posts
Joined: Apr 22, 2008

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:05 PM

Resurrecting this old thread because I just discovered I'm suffering from this same problem. When moving recently, the installer gave me a SL3 dish, and I no longer receive the music stations I always listened to on 119 (specifically Metro Blend). I called to complain so they're sending out a technician next weekend. Anyone know what it'll take to fix the problem? Can they just give me a new LNB (SL5?) that sees all the satellites, or do I need a whole new dish? I do have MRV and some sort of SWM now.

#18 OFFLINE   dpeters11

dpeters11

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 12,892 posts
  • LocationCincinnati
Joined: May 30, 2007

Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

If you have 8 tuners or less, they changed you over to a SL3-SWM. There is an SL5-SWM, but not sure if that is stocked on the trucks.

#19 OFFLINE   Devo1237

Devo1237

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 385 posts
Joined: Apr 22, 2008

Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:45 PM

If you have 8 tuners or less, they changed you over to a SL3-SWM. There is an SL5-SWM, but not sure if that is stocked on the trucks.


Hmm, so I guess I should probably try and talk to the installer before he comes out, so he can change out the SWM? That's a separate part than the LNB, right?

#20 OFFLINE   dpeters11

dpeters11

    Hall Of Fame

  • DBSTalk Club
  • 12,892 posts
  • LocationCincinnati
Joined: May 30, 2007

Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:17 PM

In a normal setup with 8 tuners or less, it is integrated into the LNB.




Protected By... spam firewall...And...