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The Un-Reality of Reality TV


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#51 OFFLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:48 AM

I don't think any of the Nick channels show Fakeality. Or Disney for that matter. Can't swear to it though. I'd add Hub to the maybe list.


Nick has reality shows. One that comes to mind is called "Camp Orange".

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:04 AM

Nick has reality shows. One that comes to mind is called "Camp Orange".

If COPS is reality tv then ID is nothing but reality tv.

OK, like, I see where this is going...according to prevailing illogical logic, all tv shows, with the possible exception of tightly-scripted shows fall into the ever-widening category of "reality". Given that, then it follows that news, sports and weather programs must also be termed reality shows except that such shows fall in the sub-category of "real" reality.

No matter how pure and well-meaning a shows' motives are, whenever a camera is present, it somwhow changes things so that the reality is altered.

Think Jane Goodall, whose original intent was to unobtrusively observe her primate subjects and who ended up injecting herself directly into their daily existence.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:06 AM

OK, like, I see where this is going...according to prevailing illogical logic, all tv shows, with the possible exception of tightly-scripted shows fall into the ever-widening category of "reality". Given that, then it follows that news, sports and weather programs must also be termed reality shows except that such shows fall in the sub-category of "real" reality.

No matter how pure and well-meaning a shows' motives are, whenever a camera is present, it somwhow changes things so that the reality is altered.

Think Jane Goodall, whose original intent was to unobtrusively observe her primate subjects and who ended up injecting herself directly into their daily existence.


That's not what I meant at all. Someone previously called COPS a reality show and I said if COPS is then the shows on ID are too.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:52 AM

Makes one want to ask: So what if it's Reality or Scripted? If you enjoy it and derive entertainment from it, does it matter if it's one or the other?
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:39 AM

How do we catergorize "news" shows that give us "news" of what happens on their networks [fake] "reality" shows??

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:43 AM

That's not what I meant at all. Someone previously called COPS a reality show and I said if COPS is then the shows on ID are too.


I don't see COPS or anything like it on ID. COPS is taped live, as it happens on the streets, no actors, no scripts, no recreations.

ID shows re-enactments and news-type documentaries (48 Hours). Nothing that would fall into the realm of 'Housewives', et al.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:32 PM

I don't see COPS or anything like it on ID. COPS is taped live, as it happens on the streets, no actors, no scripts, no recreations.

ID shows re-enactments and news-type documentaries (48 Hours). Nothing that would fall into the realm of 'Housewives', et al.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:51 PM

More like potato, zu-cchi-ni.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 02:02 PM

That's not what I meant at all. Someone previously called COPS a reality show and I said if COPS is then the shows on ID are too.

Actually, I shouldn not have quoted you at all. My comments were more directed toward the entire thread and the ever-widening reality net we seem to be casting.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

People's tastes in entertainment tv programming change over time. In the 50s westerns were big and there were lots of them on the air. In the 80s there were numerous soaps like Dallas and Dynasty. Recently, crime dramas like CSI and Law and Order were hot, but they're starting to fade.

Reality-type programs are big right now and come in many forms. They're popular and often cheap to produce, so in this world of 200 channels, networks like cheap. But sooner or later their popularity will fade and something else will take their place - just look at how the ratings for American Idol have slipped in the last 2-3 seasons.

My original post was about my personal frustration that the abundance of shows in this category were crowding out more traditional dramas and comedies. But the audience speaks with their remotes and right now the clickers are tuning to Real Housewives and Biggest Loser.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 05:25 PM

My original post was about my personal frustration that the abundance of shows in this category were crowding out more traditional dramas and comedies. But the audience speaks with their remotes and right now the clickers are tuning to Real Housewives and Biggest Loser.

I guess my perspective is from 1958 when basically we had access to three channels (ABC, CBS, NBC) that offered a total of 67 programs during prime time (8 to 11, Mon-Sat, 7-11 Sun). Right now - not counting Disney, Nikelodian, and premium package channels - using the Futon Critic search engine I come up with 81 scripted new-episode shows currently being aired:

BODY OF PROOF on ABC Tuesday
CASTLE on ABC Monday
DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES on ABC Sunday
GREY'S ANATOMY on ABC Thursday
HAPPY ENDINGS on ABC Wednesday
LAST MAN STANDING on ABC Tuesday
MIDDLE, THE on ABC Wednesday
MODERN FAMILY on ABC Wednesday
ONCE UPON A TIME on ABC Sunday
PAN AM on ABC Sunday
PRIVATE PRACTICE on ABC Thursday
REVENGE on ABC Wednesday
SUBURGATORY on ABC Wednesday
JANE BY DESIGN on ABC FAMILY Tuesday
LYING GAME, THE on ABC FAMILY Monday
PRETTY LITTLE LIARS on ABC FAMILY Monday
SWITCHED AT BIRTH on ABC FAMILY Tuesday
DELOCATED! on ADULT SWIM Thursday
FADES, THE on BBC AMERICA Saturday
MISTRESSES on BBC AMERICA Wednesday
GAME, THE on BET Tuesday
LET'S STAY TOGETHER on BET Tuesday
LEVEL UP on CARTOON Tuesday
2 BROKE GIRLS on CBS Monday
BIG BANG THEORY, THE on CBS Thursday
BLUE BLOODS on CBS Friday
CRIMINAL MINDS on CBS Wednesday
CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION on CBS Wednesday
CSI: MIAMI on CBS Sunday
CSI: NEW YORK on CBS Friday
GIFTED MAN, A on CBS Friday
GOOD WIFE, THE on CBS Sunday
HAWAII FIVE-0 on CBS Monday
HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER on CBS Monday
MENTALIST, THE on CBS Thursday
MIKE & MOLLY on CBS Monday
NCIS on CBS Tuesday
NCIS: LOS ANGELES on CBS Tuesday
PERSON OF INTEREST on CBS Thursday
ROB on CBS Thursday
TWO AND A HALF MEN on CBS Monday
UNFORGETTABLE on CBS Tuesday
90210 on CW Tuesday
GOSSIP GIRL on CW Monday
HART OF DIXIE on CW Monday
NIKITA on CW Friday
ONE TREE HILL on CW Wednesday
RINGER on CW Tuesday
SECRET CIRCLE, THE on CW Thursday
SUPERNATURAL on CW Friday
VAMPIRE DIARIES, THE on CW Thursday
ALCATRAZ on FOX Monday
FINDER, THE on FOX Thursday
FRINGE on FOX Friday
GLEE on FOX Tuesday
HOUSE on FOX Monday
NEW GIRL on FOX Tuesday
RAISING HOPE on FOX Tuesday
JUSTIFIED on FX Tuesday
RL STINE'S THE HAUNTING HOUR: THE SERIES on HUB Sunday
INCREASINGLY POOR DECISIONS OF TODD MARGARET, THE on IFC Friday
I JUST WANT MY PANTS BACK on MTV Thursday
30 ROCK on NBC Thursday
ARE YOU THERE, CHELSEA? on NBC Wednesday
FIRM, THE on NBC Thursday
GRIMM on NBC Friday
LAW & ORDER: SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT on NBC Wednesday
OFFICE, THE on NBC Thursday
PARENTHOOD on NBC Tuesday
PARKS & RECREATION on NBC Thursday
UP ALL NIGHT on NBC Thursday
WHITNEY on NBC Wednesday
MASTERPIECE! on PBS Sunday
BEING HUMAN on SYFY Monday
LOST GIRL on SYFY Monday
MERLIN on SYFY Friday
TYLER PERRY'S HOUSE OF PAYNE on TBS Friday
SOUTHLAND on TNT Tuesday
HOT IN CLEVELAND on TV LAND Wednesday
ROYAL PAINS on USA Wednesday
WHITE COLLAR on USA Tuesday

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 12:07 PM

Is anyone else out there getting turned off by all the "reality" shows taking over tv? Maybe I'm in the minority, but most of this stuff is garbage. Yeah, they get ratings, but at some point I'd think people would start tuning these shows out.

Bickering housewives, obviously staged events, contestants/participants encouraged to act like spoiled brats, its all just so phony. But in a world of 200 channels, they draw what amounts to a large audience these days.

Last year, one of my once favorite channels - History - saw a huge increase in ratings. Was it from a 12-part series on the Chester A Arthur administration? an in-depth exploration of the women's suffrage movement? Nope. Ice Road Truckers and Pawn Stars. Arrrrrrrrrgh!


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Posted 16 February 2012 - 02:25 PM

The only "reality" show I watch was Extreme Makeover: Home Edition. It started out just as that. Making over homes of needy or deserving families. Then it morphed into building a new house in seven days. These houses were modest. Then they got to be large and ostentatious. I have no doubt that the houses were built in seven days, but there had to be a lot of up front planning to pull it off. Even with mortgages being paid off, you had to think about property taxes etc. And whether the people could keep up with the maintenance. The finale of this show had them building seven homes in a tornado devastated area. Now this show was NOT inexpensive to produce. Kudus to ABC and all of their sponsors. Was I a little disappointed that this show came to and end? Yes, but it was obvious that they couldn't top the previous show week after week. IMO, they really didn't need to top themselves. Just present a story and help out a family.

Another show that went this route was This Old House. I liked this from an educational standpoint learning about construction etc. Then they went off track showing you showrooms and then the final result.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 02:38 PM

Ditto on "This Old House".

Started out as a good guide for do-it-yourselfers to build a deck, or replace a toilet or bathroom sink or upgrade windows and doors -- projects that might cost a few hundred dollars and could be done in a weekend.

Turned into tearing a place down nearly to the foundation and doing a near full rebuild requiring multiple contractors, several weeks (or months) and many thousands of dollars.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 03:18 PM

Ditto on "This Old House".

Started out as a good guide for do-it-yourselfers to build a deck, or replace a toilet or bathroom sink or upgrade windows and doors -- projects that might cost a few hundred dollars and could be done in a weekend.

Turned into tearing a place down nearly to the foundation and doing a near full rebuild requiring multiple contractors, several weeks (or months) and many thousands of dollars.

When they remodeled a barn into a home and the only things they salvage were a few boards and pegs was when I stopped watching it.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 04:10 PM

I remember that one. That's probably about the same time I stopped.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:57 PM

Ditto on "This Old House".

Started out as a good guide for do-it-yourselfers to build a deck, or replace a toilet or bathroom sink or upgrade windows and doors -- projects that might cost a few hundred dollars and could be done in a weekend.

Turned into tearing a place down nearly to the foundation and doing a near full rebuild requiring multiple contractors, several weeks (or months) and many thousands of dollars.


Well, tens or hundreds of thousands, based on the last one I watched....
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 07:13 PM

I just happened to see a listing for one on tonight. It mentioned Hurricane Irene, so I'd say it's pretty current.

Said it was Part 2 of 10.


Huh???

They used to do a project in one or two shows.
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