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#51 OFFLINE   pinkertonfloyd

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:47 PM

I wonder if this will be like the transition from Fox Reality to Nat Geo Wild. Fox Reality stuck around on Directv for several months (re-runing the same content over and over) before it finally flipped over to NG Wild.



TV guide is reporting that an Automated version of SoapNet will play until agreements are finalized with certain carriers on carriage of Disney Junior...

I hope DTV is quick... and really... I'd swap Spout for it... (ugh, some of the shows on that channel are creepy!).

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:03 PM

TV guide is reporting that an Automated version of SoapNet will play until agreements are finalized with certain carriers on carriage of Disney Junior...

I hope DTV is quick... and really... I'd swap Spout for it... (ugh, some of the shows on that channel are creepy!).


I hope DTV stands up to ESPN / Disney and takes up time so they can run out of HD room so they are not forced to take Disney Junior HD.
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:20 PM

I hope DTV stands up to ESPN / Disney and takes up time so they can run out of HD room so they are not forced to take Disney Junior HD.


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Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:22 AM

If we get another fracking Disney channel before BBCAHD, thats some BS. Period.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 11:44 AM

I used to love BBC America a decade ago when they ran episodes of Casualty and Holby City. I only watch it now for Doctor Who since SyFy dropped it and Law & Order UK. Torchwood going to Starz also put another nail in the BBCA coffin for me.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 12:57 PM

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:26 PM

If we get another fracking Disney channel before BBCAHD, thats some BS. Period.


I doubt it's over a "lack of bandwidth".

I had BBCAHD on my IPTV carrier, and while I like BBCA... they didn't have much HD content. (Top Gear and Dr. Who was about it... although good ones, a couple HD shows does not make an HD channel).

I'd be okay with Disney using the same SD as Soap, at least for now... then the "bandwidth" issue is moot.

although I have a feeling, that some of the reasoning behind making a Junior Channel is that currently they have to slip it in the morning, getting rid of it in the morning would allow them to condense the east/west into one channel, as the timing won't be as big of a deal. Be interesting what they do.

As for COST, Disney makes a TON off these channels, and non-commerical means nothing.

I have no CLUE why DTV moved Baby First from pay to free... I was fine with it as pay (I even paid for it for awhile).

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:44 AM

If we get another fracking Disney channel before BBCAHD, thats some BS. Period.


I too would love to have BBCA in HD BUT, and it's a big but, I do not want a non-channel, i.e. a loop of SoapNet programming, of any kind vs. a newly available original channel, no matter what the programming niche it fills. That's just a completely bogus fill on DirecTV's part to boost channel count. If you don't want to pay for Disney Jr., at least step up and admit that to your customers--that you're dropping their channel count less than four weeks after raising their rates--in lieu of force feeding them looped programming and calling it a "channel."

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:28 AM

If they want a looped kids channel they should just add Qubo

Edited by NewForceFiveFan, 22 March 2012 - 09:36 AM.


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Posted 22 March 2012 - 10:50 AM

I had BBCAHD on my IPTV carrier, and while I like BBCA... they didn't have much HD content. (Top Gear and Dr. Who was about it... although good ones, a couple HD shows does not make an HD channel).


I never took into account how many HD programmes are actually on BBCA, perhaps that is why its HD feed has never been added after all this time. If it rings true, I may have to withdraw my support for its addition.

I have a feeling, that some of the reasoning behind making a Junior Channel is that currently they have to slip it in the morning, getting rid of it in the morning would allow them to condense the east/west into one channel, as the timing won't be as big of a deal. Be interesting what they do.


Well FWIW, on D* there isn't a Disney West HD, thus I would welcome a combining of resources so there wouldn't be a net loss of HD Channels but with a gain in West Coast primetime viewers. It will be an entirely different issue if Disney wants Junior in full time HD :(

Edited by espnjason, 22 March 2012 - 02:25 PM.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:05 PM

It's funny to read all the moms begging on DirecTV's Facebook page for Disney Junior to babysit their kids, or read how many will cancel if DirecTV doesn't pick it up.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:31 PM

I want it for the wonderful world of disney movies (or whatever they'll call them now). I like to watch Little Einsteins WITH my boys, too. So there. I would like this channel. If you didn't watch TV as kids how did we get so desperate to watch it now?

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:33 PM

It's funny to read all the moms begging on DirecTV's Facebook page for Disney Junior to babysit their kids, or read how many will cancel if DirecTV doesn't pick it up.


I don't have sympathy for them. When I was a kid, Disney was a premium channel.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:16 PM

I don't have sympathy for them. When I was a kid, Disney was a premium channel.


I was going to do your family a favor and hookup the Disney Channel, for free. Well, forget it.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:22 PM

Disney Jr. is where the magic begins, except on Direct TV..

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:32 PM

Disney Jr. is where the magic begins, except on Direct TV..


I don't want to pay for a ad free disney channel that is part of the basic package.

Put it along with the other Disney channels or don't pick it up.

Do you want to be paying $2-$4 /mo a sub for this??
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 07:18 PM

Do you want to be paying $2-$4 /mo a sub for this??


YES!!!

I would gladly pay $2-$4 more a month to receive Disney Junior on Directv.

I have two young children, and the brief Disney Junior block of programming, that airs on regular Disney channel in the mornings, is absolutely perfect for my kids.

I am already very upset that DTV is not carrying it from the launch date. (Between this, and other recent grievances, I am just about ready to drop DTV altogether... The tug of war between my local FOX affiliate and DTV, which carried on for several weeks during NFL playoffs was completely unacceptable.)

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:24 PM

YES!!!

I would gladly pay $2-$4 more a month to receive Disney Junior on Directv.

I have two young children, and the brief Disney Junior block of programming, that airs on regular Disney channel in the mornings, is absolutely perfect for my kids.

I am already very upset that DTV is not carrying it from the launch date. (Between this, and other recent grievances, I am just about ready to drop DTV altogether... The tug of war between my local FOX affiliate and DTV, which carried on for several weeks during NFL playoffs was completely unacceptable.)

I don't want to pay for this and don't want to be forced to pay for it.

Disney should be premium and they can use it as a plus (NO out side ad's)
I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:42 PM

Disney used to be a premium, and it didnt fly. That is why they force everyone to take it to get ESPN's,

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 08:48 PM

Disney used to be a premium, and it didnt fly. That is why they force everyone to take it to get ESPN's,


at least put it in choice ultimate
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:09 PM

I don't have sympathy for them. When I was a kid, Disney was a premium channel.


Oh damn, I'm too old to be laughing this hard.

When I was a kid, Disney was named Walt and he was on Sunday night every week for an hour or two for free on NBC (assuming the weather cooperated and the 17inch large screen TV wasn't on the fritz). What a liar though "Wonderful World of Color" -- HA sure, as long as you want all 3 colors (Black, white, and gray).

Finally they changed the name to Wonderful World of Disney and lo and behold it came in Color (but no Uncle Walt so they were still lying) on our now gigantic Brand New 20 inch behemoth. My young mind was all messed up -- Color meant B&W with Disney, but Disney meant color but no Disney -- BUT it was still free and an Sunday night every week so all was right with the world.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:26 AM

Disney used to be a premium, and it didnt fly. That is why they force everyone to take it to get ESPN's,


Didn't fly? It was a premium level service for like 12 years. Hardly seems like it "didn't fly."

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:57 AM

When I was a kid, Disney was named Walt and he was on Sunday night every week for an hour or two for free on NBC (assuming the weather cooperated and the 17inch large screen TV wasn't on the fritz). What a liar though "Wonderful World of Color" -- HA sure, as long as you want all 3 colors (Black, white, and gray).


WAAAYYY off topic (and long before my time) but ... Disney renamed the show "Wonderful World of Color" when it moved to NBC in 1961 (thanks Wikipedia for the dates) and it most certainly WAS shown in color, hence the name. Now, whether you had the capacity to receive it in color at that time was a major question, as color TV penetration was slim at that point. It was one of Disney's major gripes with ABC ... That they drug their feet on promised color broadcasting; and one reason why their relationship soured at that time. (Ironic, since Disney now owns ABC.) ALL the Disney shows were SHOT in color, at Walt's insistence, including the first 5-6 years worth that aired on ABC in B&W under the "Walt Disney Presents" title ... Many of which were later re-aired on NBC, in color.

And, by the way, to bring it back around, not that it's ANYBODY'S business, but my five-year-old watches less than 2 hours of TV per day, max (often one in the morning, one at night, with me). I like the Disney channels, and PBS, because they offer high-quality, commercial-free and (for the most part) smart children's programming. Those commercials are C-R-A-P for kids who don't understand marketing and believe them verbatim.

One day of watching something at a friend's house and my son was convinced Sketchers were the best shoes ever ... Because the commercial said so. And remembered enough to ask me, repeatedly, what brand all his shoes were and would I get him Sketcher's next time. Now, this was a learning/educational moment as a parent as I work(ed) to explain branding and marketing and how companies try and 'trick' kids but, all in all, I'd prefer to skip the ads altogether, if possible, until he's old enough to employ more mature critical thinking to the evaluation of corporate claims.

But even if I didn't have a child I would be ticked off at DirecTV for airing a programming loop, which is what SoapNET is, of today, versus an actual channel. Disney Jr. isn't a new addition ... It's a rebranding. And like the rebrand or not, it's a replacement for an existing channel, not a new channel anyone is asking for. DirecTV can not, by existing contractual obligation (to the Disney company, not us), drop the channel completely, so they go into this legal loop limbo that provides zero benefit to consumers. It's a corporate game of chicken--with the subscribers as the only guaranteed losers--that has absolutely zilch to do with gaining/losing any other HD or non-HD channel in the universe.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:57 AM

I don't want to pay for this and don't want to be forced to pay for it.

Disney should be premium and they can use it as a plus (NO out side ad's)


And at the same token... i don't want to be forced to pay for 75% of the channels I'm forced to get, that YOU probably enjoy.

I'd pay extra for Disney Junior, if DTV even offered it at all. But sadly, DTV is not even making it a premium option.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:05 AM

WAAAYYY off topic (and long before my time) but ... Disney renamed the show "Wonderful World of Color" when it moved to NBC in 1961 (thanks Wikipedia for the dates) and it most certainly WAS shown in color, hence the name.


Sigh. Yes it's way off target and yes Wonderful World of Color was sent out in Color from the 1st moment -- hence the entire attempted joke when all you had was a B&W console TV. I guess my tongue wasn't planted deep enough into cheek for that post

Unfortunately for me, not way before my time.




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