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#126 OFFLINE   sppunk

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:56 AM

Keep in mind you can't go to choice xtra classic, it's not a current package.


Right, I'm aware. I currently have Xtra Classic, but want to see what I'd lose by dropping to Choice.

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#127 OFFLINE   twiseguy

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:24 AM

I have Choice Xtra Classic with HD & HD Extra Pack.

I want to drop the HD Extra Pack, but Direct TV is telling me I have to change my package to Choice Extra, losing some of my current channels, in order to do this. (I am NOT going up, only budget so much a month for TV)

I don`t see where dropping HD Extra has anything to do with my current, grandfathered package.

Anyone else have to do the same thing if they drop HBO, etc?

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:19 PM

I have Choice Xtra Classic with HD & HD Extra Pack.

I want to drop the HD Extra Pack, but Direct TV is telling me I have to change my package to Choice Extra, losing some of my current channels, in order to do this. (I am NOT going up, only budget so much a month for TV)

I don`t see where dropping HD Extra has anything to do with my current, grandfathered package.

Anyone else have to do the same thing if they drop HBO, etc?


Are you trying to do it online? If so, you'll have to call in. For some reason they never fixed up the online system to process things for people with grandfathered packages. If you did call in, then it sounds like you got a misinformed csr. I've added and dropped many packages over the last 8 years or so I've had a grandfathered package (including the HD Extra pack). As long as you call in, they should be able to do it for you.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:59 PM

Are you trying to do it online? If so, you'll have to call in. For some reason they never fixed up the online system to process things for people with grandfathered packages. If you did call in, then it sounds like you got a misinformed csr. I've added and dropped many packages over the last 8 years or so I've had a grandfathered package (including the HD Extra pack). As long as you call in, they should be able to do it for you.


Thanks for the response. I tried online first, then tried on the phone with the same response. Certainly is possible the CSR is misinformed, won`t be the first time. Will try again when I return home next week.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 01:36 PM

Of course, I should have known you would spin it some way. :)


+1.

Glad to see the PAC 12 get their own network, also glad to see Larry Scott on the College Athletics scene.He's a huge net Plus for College Athletics.

That said though the PAC 12 viewership for either CFB or CBB pales in comparison to the SEC, always has, will continue to pale in the future also. Even after said network gets off the ground.

Edited by davidatl14, 01 March 2012 - 04:30 PM.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:27 PM

Just called in to drop the HD extra pk.(My 3 months was up). I have the Choice Extra Classic. Nothing else was changed. 20 seconds later the guy said I can give you HD x pK for free for 3 months.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:43 PM

Of course, I should have known you would spin it some way. :)



You can call it whatever you want. It's marketing 101. It's not the total number of viewers, it is the viewers that will purchase the product you are trying to sell.

And fact remains that out west the Pac 12 dominates; that's why the channel is available out west on the major cable systems. Whether Directv carries it nationwide or out west, the fixed cost is already needing to happen (i.e. the bandwidth). If the price is low enough to carry nationwide it will happen. The only question is whether the added variable costs (cost to carry the channel nationwide) are less than the addition of new revenue (from customers who subscribe to Directv on the east costs simply because this channel is on Directv and not the competing cable company). Again marketing 101.

If the Pac 12 can get this market share when the games don't even show on the east coast, imagine what the viewership can be if they are shown on the east coast.

Good day.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:57 PM

Right, I'm aware. I currently have Xtra Classic, but want to see what I'd lose by dropping to Choice.


You can go to the page to change your package and compare. You just can't go back once you change.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:36 AM

You can call it whatever you want. It's marketing 101. It's not the total number of viewers, it is the viewers that will purchase the product you are trying to sell.

And fact remains that out west the Pac 12 dominates; that's why the channel is available out west on the major cable systems. Whether Directv carries it nationwide or out west, the fixed cost is already needing to happen (i.e. the bandwidth). If the price is low enough to carry nationwide it will happen. The only question is whether the added variable costs (cost to carry the channel nationwide) are less than the addition of new revenue (from customers who subscribe to Directv on the east costs simply because this channel is on Directv and not the competing cable company). Again marketing 101.

If the Pac 12 can get this market share when the games don't even show on the east coast, imagine what the viewership can be if they are shown on the east coast.

Good day.


More Left coast spin.

The Pac 12 games are shown now on the East Coast.

They(Pac 12) will never have the eyeballs the SEC or Big Ten for that matter do.

Also ad rates charged are higher for the SEC and Big Ten, so despite your spin about the customer base, the SEC and other BCS Conferences have more eyeballs, higher ad rates charged, more buying power and just as affluent viewers as the Pac 12 .

Bottom Line:

College Football is far more important to far more people in the South and Mid west than it is in the PAC 12 viewing areas.

No amount of Larry Scott brilliance is going to change those demographics.

Larry Scott is very good for College athletics, I'm glad to see the PAC 12 start their own network, I hope it's wildly successful. I welcome more shots and time slots to view Pac 12 football. It's a top notch conference.

Still though, they will never have the TV audience,fan base or unbridled passion, National acclaim or talent base that is present in the SEC.

In closing and trying to move it to a TV discussion versus CFB,

I do hope DirecTV does have the PAC 12 Network and all the sub nets made available from Day 1 as part of the Sports Pack ASAP. Looking forward to the network going live.

Edited by davidatl14, 02 March 2012 - 07:45 AM.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:48 AM

Many Pac 12 games are NOT shown on the east coast. It's gotten better, but not all. When ABC does it's regional telecasts it Pac-12 does not always get to the east coast. The Fox RSNs don't usually carry the Pac-12 games Pac-12 carries if there is a regional matchup in their territory that that they have rights to.

This is not a competition between SEC and Pac-12. The SEC has it's viewers and that's great. The Pac-12 has it's viewers. I am not clear why some here feel the need to somehow make it an argument between the two conferences because it has nothing to do with that. This has to do with the Pac-12 maximizing it's revenues and being innovative and secure the best deal for itself.

Big 10 and Pac 12 are cutting all sorts of deals. Starting next year (2017 for football due to existing contracts) there will be regular season games between the conference. These will be competitive games with good opponents. That means that a Big 10 team like Ohio State will come to Corvallis, Oregon, etc. That's a big deal and a big game. A game a competitive team will hate to play because it might lose. And these games increase conference rivalries and attract viewers. This is what sports is all about.

The Big 10 and Pac 12 are looking to cut the middle man out of the bowl games and do their own bowl games as well. That's a big deal and means more revenue to both conferences rather than the bowls.

More Left coast spin.

The Pac 12 games are shown now on the East Coast.

They(Pac 12) will never have the eyeballs the SEC or Big Ten for that matter do.

Also ad rates charged are higher for the SEC and Big Ten so despite your spin about the customer base, the SEC and other BCS Conferences have more eyeballs, higher ad rates charged, more buying power and just as affluent viewers as the Pac 12 .

Bottom Line:

College Football is far more important to far more people in the South and Mid west than it is in the PAC 12 viewing areas.

No amount of Larry Scott brilliance is going to change those demographics.

In closing Larry Scott is very good for College athletics, I'm glad to see the PAC 12 start their own network, I hope it's wildly successful. I welcome more shots and time slots to view Pac 12 football. It's a top notch conference.

Still though, they will never have the TV audience,fan base or unbridled passion, National acclaim or talent base that is present in the SEC.

I do hope DirecTV does have them as part of the Sports Pack ASAP. Looking forward to the network going live.



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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:27 PM

Many Pac 12 games are NOT shown on the east coast. It's gotten better, but not all. When ABC does it's regional telecasts it Pac-12 does not always get to the east coast. The Fox RSNs don't usually carry the Pac-12 games Pac-12 carries if there is a regional matchup in their territory that that they have rights to.

This is not a competition between SEC and Pac-12. The SEC has it's viewers and that's great. The Pac-12 has it's viewers. I am not clear why some here feel the need to somehow make it an argument between the two conferences because it has nothing to do with that. This has to do with the Pac-12 maximizing it's revenues and being innovative and secure the best deal for itself.

Big 10 and Pac 12 are cutting all sorts of deals. Starting next year (2017 for football due to existing contracts) there will be regular season games between the conference. These will be competitive games with good opponents. That means that a Big 10 team like Ohio State will come to Corvallis, Oregon, etc. That's a big deal and a big game. A game a competitive team will hate to play because it might lose. And these games increase conference rivalries and attract viewers. This is what sports is all about.

The Big 10 and Pac 12 are looking to cut the middle man out of the bowl games and do their own bowl games as well. That's a big deal and means more revenue to both conferences rather than the bowls.


It probably started in one of two ways: "This channel is a MUST because its the PAC-12 and we are awesome in everything we do" or "Who cares about this channel?! The PAC-12 sucks. SEC is all that matters because it rules." And then it goes on from there. As I stated many posts ago, I do not want this or any other conference or school specific channels available anywhere but it's own college sports tier. I know it won't happen but I can wish. If they had put the 4 pro sport specific channels into a tier of its own, I would have bought it. It isn't that big of a deal.

I think someone needs to look into these conference channels personally. For years the universities and the NCAA have not paid players and hidden behind the "they get a free education" excuse. It's gonna get a whole lot harder to argue that with these channels making conferences money hand over fist and doing so on the backs of those players and not paying them. Before you could always say ESPN isn't owned by us, they are a sports news organization, only some of our games air there, etc. It would be very difficult for Ohio State to make that same argument with the Big Ten Network or even worse Texas's own school channel. And for the record, I was never for paying players before because I understood the free education thing. However, as these networks and all move towards more specific conference and school focused they really are making money off the athletes themselves and for the most part couldn't survive without them.

Edited by zimm7778, 02 March 2012 - 01:38 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2012 - 04:41 PM

Am I correct in seeing on the DTV website, I don't have FSN CIN now that I'm in the Choice Xtra, instead of Choice Ultimate?
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:32 PM

Did you have it prior?

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:34 PM

Did you have it prior?


Yes, I had the channel prior to the "switch".
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:42 PM

Does it actually work? The website has gotten better, but still some channels incorrectly listed as not available. I have choice xtra classic and it says I don't get it either, along with some others.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:11 PM

I checked tonight, the SD channel worked, nothing on the HD channel to check. Their website says I definitely don't get it, or the NHL Network, but it worked as well. This would be a deal breaker for me, the Reds are on that channel. I don't want to magicially have it disappear one day. Are we supposed to get it?
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:56 PM

For a long time when I had total choice plus, the site said I didn't qualify to get the 101 Network, or Audience when the name changed. All packages get it. I wouldn't worry about it, the web lineup has never been totally reliable.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:47 AM

Thanks for the response. I tried online first, then tried on the phone with the same response. Certainly is possible the CSR is misinformed, won`t be the first time. Will try again when I return home next week.


Finally got the HD Extra Pack removed. Called DTV a weeek ago and the CSR told me she removed it, except when I saw my bill today, and the HD Extra Pack is still there, (along with the billing). Tried again today with success. Still have the Choice Xtra Classic intact.

I really wish DTV would do something with these package names. (Choice, Choice Extra, Choice Extra Classic, DirectTV HD Pack, DirectTV HD Extra Pack, etc.)




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