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#1 OFFLINE   jlefevre1

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:20 PM

Here is my present system. HR20-700, H21-100, H20-100, H23-600, H21-20, Slim Line disk with all 4 lines brought in to 16 port multi switch. 3 coaxes to the HR-20-700 ( 2 tuners and off air antenna ), and 2 wires brought to the H20-100 ( sat and off air ) . These are the only 2 tuners that need off air. I ave an unused AMI ( or whatever it is ) that goes off air to USB.

I will beg , borrow, or trick D into a new H34 with the 5 tuners. I will put the AMI on it to get the off air back. All of the boxes are up to date software wise but I have noticed that the H20-100 does not have the new guide system like the others have upgraded to over the last month.

So with the H34 ( 5 tuners ) and the 4 other boxes that is 9 tuners. The slimline disk I have has a less than 6 month old regular LNB and a fresh aiming check by D due to a failure so is working fine. If I understand right then changing it to a SWM LNB would not work since they only support 8 tuners and I would have 9.

So I think I will buy the SWM16, and a power supply, and one 4 way and one 8 way splitter ( thinking to the future here ) and then there are the coax to ethernet thingies. I know I need at least one to make a wired ethernet connection somewhere ( not a problem I have it available at several locations that the D boxes and the SWM16 will be at ). I then throw away all the C band converters ( or whatever that thing is at the back of every receiver )

What else might I need ? I have heard the HR20- 700 can be a problem on SWIM but as I said I am going to get D to fix that. The other old receiver is the H20-100 that still has the old menu system. If that is a problem then I will need a new one there and a AMI ( OTA antennat require at that location also )

My OTA is all wired separate so do not need diplexers at all. I have Telephone lines at the HR20 and the H20 for CID.

D quoted me $447.00 to do the install. They will show up at the wrong time, not speak english, and have the wrong parts. I will probably spend more than that but I have read on the forums that they will not install SWM's on residences which leaves me short the use of all 5 tuners on the H34 ( which will be a problem ) plus any future expansion ( I have 4 TV locations right now that have no D box and am using one of the receivers to modulate onto an HD UHF channel that come in on the antenna from one of the receivers mounted in a closet with IR repeaters )

Any pointer appreciated

Jim

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#2 OFFLINE   carl6

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:43 PM

The H20 can't be used, so it needs to be replaced. I would keep the HR20 and drop the H20, so you would have ten tuners (HR34, HR20, H21, H21 & H23).

DirecTV WILL install an SWM16, and that would be included in the $447 price you were quoted.

The OTA Tuner is an AM21, just for info.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:44 PM

HR20-700's are not a problem on SWM's. The 100's have an additional connection but all work fine.

Not sure what you mean by not installing SWM's on residences. That's not correct.
You will end up with a SWM16. The incoming 4 lines connect to that.

The H20 is not compatible. Suggest H24 or H25 to replace it or just get rid of the H20 and replace that with the HR34 if no additonal boxes are needed.

So you will need a SWM16, DECA boxes for everything older than HR24/H24's and you need splitters, all green label. Price all that out plus HR34 cost and see if you you really can do it better and cheaper.

If the $447 includes the HR34, WHDVR connections with DECA units everywhere, and something like a CCK for internet connectivity, it may not be a bad deal vs. if you went and purchase everything yourself.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:54 PM

^ Not only that, but getting it installed, too. That's a really good price. When you price it out, add in hiring a guy for 3 hours, or whatever it takes, to install all this stuff. By the time DirecTV pays the installer, they are covering their costs on a deal like this but no more.

jlefevre1, be there and make sure they install it right, but I've found I can get my local installers to do what I want them to do. You'll be fine.
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#5 OFFLINE   Telcoguru

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:35 AM

I thought that the SWM-16 had inputs for the OTA so why would you run the extra coax to the receivers?
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:58 AM

I thought that the SWM-16 had inputs for the OTA so why would you run the extra coax to the receivers?

They don't.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:27 AM

So even though it says it contains a built-in di-plexer for combining off-air signals with DIRECTV satellite signals onto a single home-run wire to the dwelling it doesn't work?
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:06 AM

So even though it says it contains a built-in di-plexer for combining off-air signals with DIRECTV satellite signals onto a single home-run wire to the dwelling it doesn't work?


The SWM8 says it has the built in diplexer, and it does. The SWM16 does not. Two completely different devices.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:39 AM

I thought that the SWM-16 had inputs for the OTA so why would you run the extra coax to the receivers?


They don't.


So even though it says it contains a built-in di-plexer for combining off-air signals with DIRECTV satellite signals onto a single home-run wire to the dwelling it doesn't work?

Your "I thought" was about the SWiM-16, which doesn't have an OTA input.
The SWM8 & SWiM-32 have it.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:24 PM

So even though it says it contains a built-in di-plexer for combining off-air signals with DIRECTV satellite signals onto a single home-run wire to the dwelling it doesn't work?


Carl6 is correct the SWM8 does have the OTA but it won't work for the whole home DVR.
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