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How many of you with Directv think Dish is getting better than Directv


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#61 OFFLINE   Scott Kocourek

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:06 AM

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:10 AM

I've considered Dish because of the Hopper/Joey. I would wait a few months to see how the software shakes out in the real world. I won't do anything until after summer. I'm rather highly invested with DirecTV, so it will take alot to get me to switch.


I saw the combo at CES, and while it's a real innovation to record the networks in primetime so you can go back and catch what you "missed", the Joey's are not so clever.
Plus, I have so many things recorded in the queue, I don't want to know about more things I might want to watch! ;)
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:29 AM

Until Dish gets the NFLST it will NEVER be better than DIRECTV!


I'm not sure sure that DISH could come up with something that is equivalent to the 10 tuners of my 2 HR34s.


2 Hoppers would give you effectively 9 tuners during prime time and 6 otherwise.

But I have to ask, what in the world can you want to watch that would have you need 10 tuners at any given time? The most I've ever had going at once were 5 of the 6 tuners I have and that very rarely.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:31 AM

But I have to ask, what in the world can you want to watch that would have you need 10 tuners at any given time? The most I've ever had going at once were 5 of the 6 tuners I have and that very rarely.

This might be more important with a multi-viewer household.
I know I can't find that much to record at one time, but figure if there were kids here, there might be more.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:39 AM

Dish has SiriusXM? Now there's a reason not to get Dish (post merger XM).;)

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:40 AM

Typical answers
should of been expected



Which company lost overall subscribers again for the year?
Which company pulled it's top end receiver?
Which company released a new top end receiver?
Which company increased it's fees per receiver to be like a cable model?
Which company gets higher customer satisfaction ratings of the two?
Which company has been cited multiple times for carrying channels it wasn't authorized to?
Which company has been regulated by the government due to not following federal guidelines?
Which company spends more money on court costs?
Which company loses more court cases?

So I guess if those are "Typical questions" than it makes DISH still a better company? DISH has proven over and over again that they think small when it comes to their customers. The new hopper joey aspect proves that even more. Why limit yourself to a set hardware limit and yet they've done just that intentionally. Charlie lives in the past and is still scared of his shadow. He thinks that every customer is out there to rip him off and that if they allowed the same amount of receivers, tuners, and equipment on accounts that DIRECTV did that they would be ripped off somehow. Until the board is replaced this is how it will always be with DISH and since Charlie is the controlling stock holder this is how it will be. I could use an Al Davis analogy as when he started he did go against the grain and was innovative. However as he gets older he does more damage to his company than good.

There's a difference between cost and value don't get them confused. If DISH meets your needs than more power to you but if you want to judge a company based on success it's already been proven who the better company is. No one company will ever be for everyone so having choices is good.

So the bottom line to customers is still what company has products, services, and an overall experience that meets their needs. 7 million more customers have already proven which company meets that overall compared to the other.

FYI typical responses don't make them any less correct or valid. If you asked someone if 1+1=2 you would get a typical response.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:41 AM

2 Hoppers would give you effectively 9 tuners during prime time and 6 otherwise.

But I have to ask, what in the world can you want to watch that would have you need 10 tuners at any given time? The most I've ever had going at once were 5 of the 6 tuners I have and that very rarely.


So, 1 HR34 and 2 HD receivers are much better than 1 Hopper and 2 Joey's.

The 2 HD receivers will not use any of the 5 HR34 tuners when watching live TV.

The 2 Joeys use 2 of the 3 Hopper tuners leaving you only 1 Tuner to Record.

That is a big setback.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:14 PM

re: Hooper. What good is recording the entire prime time on the networks if you are only interested in maybe 50% of those shows?
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:18 PM

This might be more important with a multi-viewer household.


I can very easily see a household of 5 or more needing it. we are a house of 3 and often have recording conflicts between the kids shows and ours..

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:37 PM

Until Dish has the amount of sports packages, they aren't even in the same ballpark... no provider is for that matter.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:38 PM

So, 1 HR34 and 2 HD receivers are much better than 1 Hopper and 2 Joey's.

The 2 HD receivers will not use any of the 5 HR34 tuners when watching live TV.

The 2 Joeys use 2 of the 3 Hopper tuners leaving you only 1 Tuner to Record.

That is a big setback.


In tuner count, the D* model always comes out ahead in actual numbers. But in effective tuner availability, it depends on what, when and how you watch TV. Having more tuners isn't necessarily an advantage in actual use.

For instance, the only times I've seen an issue with contentions is during prime time and that caused by the broadcast channels. For other channels, they repeat so often it isn't an issue. My viewing is almost 100% recorded, I seldom watch anything live. So more actual tuners isn't a big deal. One Hopper with one Joey would do it for me.

For me an HR34+Hxx would do it or one hopper plus one joey, with no loss of recorded programming. IOW, 6 of one, half-dozen of the other.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 12:38 PM

re: Hooper. What good is recording the entire prime time on the networks if you are only interested in maybe 50% of those shows?


If you want 50% of them recorded, it only takes one tuner to do it.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:02 PM

For me, it's DirecTV vs FiOS. Have never considered Dish to be a tier-1 player, especially with missing my local RSN's in HD.
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:10 PM

For me, it's DirecTV vs FiOS. Have never considered Dish to be a tier-1 player, especially with missing my local RSN's in HD.


Here FIOS is not even offered.. it's Directv, Dish, or Comcast...

Something has to be said about Comcast when 9 of the 10 homes on my block have a Directv dish mounted on the property:lol:

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:25 PM

Here FIOS is not even offered.. it's Directv, Dish, or Comcast...

Something has to be said about Comcast when 9 of the 10 homes on my block have a Directv dish mounted on the property:lol:


Says a lot about DISH too.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:27 PM

Which company lost overall subscribers again for the year?
Which company pulled it's top end receiver?
Which company released a new top end receiver?
Which company increased it's fees per receiver to be like a cable model?
Which company gets higher customer satisfaction ratings of the two?
Which company has been cited multiple times for carrying channels it wasn't authorized to?
Which company has been regulated by the government due to not following federal guidelines?
Which company spends more money on court costs?
Which company loses more court cases?


Nice questions, even if quite of a few of them don't matter as a subscriber. :)

Here's questions I'm much more concerned with:
1. Which one has the channels I want in HD?
2. Which one is least costly for my installation?
3. Is the picture quality good? Yeah, I know D* has blah-blah so much better HD. My eyes don't see much difference, and that really is what matters to me.

All the rest is fodder for discussion and contention!! :)

Both companies are good, both are profitable and both have different views about how to approach the satellite TV market.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:32 PM

Here FIOS is not even offered.. it's Directv, Dish, or Comcast...

Something has to be said about Comcast when 9 of the 10 homes on my block have a Directv dish mounted on the property:lol:


Well, it says you live in a discerning upscale neighborhood! :lol:
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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:36 PM

Nice questions, even if quite of a few of them don't matter as a subscriber. :)

Here's questions I'm much more concerned with:
1. Which one has the channels I want in HD?
2. Which one is least costly for my installation?
3. Is the picture quality good? Yeah, I know D* has blah-blah so much better HD. My eyes don't see much difference, and that really is what matters to me.

All the rest is fodder for discussion and contention!! :)

Both companies are good, both are profitable and both have different views about how to approach the satellite TV market.


A fourth question you should be asking is which of the two satellite providers has a better track record when negotiating with content providers?

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:49 PM

A fourth question you should be asking is which of the two satellite providers has a better track record when negotiating with content providers?


Yep, that's a good question and it does affect the subscriber.

But I've been with both and it has not ever been a big deal with me. Too many channels to watch to start worrying about that. Missed a few shows I liked on occasion, just not enough to seriously bother me.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 01:56 PM

A fourth question you should be asking is which of the two satellite providers has a better track record when negotiating with content providers?


By 'track record' do you mean standing up to excessive rates or rolling over and passing the cost to the consumer...?
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