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How many of you with Directv think Dish is getting better than Directv


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#126 OFFLINE   azarby

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:15 AM

My wife will record as many as 5-6 programs in the same time slot, very few of wich are on the regular broadcast channels. Add to that my 1-2, which hmeans that there have been as many as 8. Not very often, but it happens. If the grandson is over, that chewe up one more tuner.


A little clarification is needed here. She actually records 3-4 programs for latter playback while watching two other programs live delayed, bouncing back and forth between them.

#127 OFFLINE   mdavej

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 10:52 AM

Both DirecTV and TWC offer my locals in HD while DISH does not. End of discussion.

It's only the end if you can't get them OTA either. Works out great for me because I can record 4 things at once on my 722k (2 OTA + 2 Sat).

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:04 PM

Yes definitely looking better not to mention having E! In HD which I'm totally lost as to why directv doesn't I used to watch it before got directv.

They have many more has I'm interested in too.


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Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:23 PM

E! You really that junk?


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Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:25 PM

My daughter in Florida has Dish. I had DirecTV before I switched to FiOS. We both have 40-inch HD sets. I couldn't tell the difference in PQ between the two systems, although obviously this wasn't a side-by-side comparison. I preferred the music channels on Dish over SonicTap.

I can't really see much difference in HD PQ between FiOS and DirecTV. However, the SD PQ on FiOS is much better than on DirecTV, at least on TCM, the one SD channel that I watch fairly often.
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:34 PM

After 8+ years with Dish and 4+ years with DirecTV my experience is that...

With Dish the customer exists for the convenience of the company and that attitude seems to be from the very top on down to the phone lines.

With DirecTV the company exists for the convenience of the customer... or at least they give me the illusion that it does.

Sat TV has been far more enjoyable with DirecTV than with Dish from a hardware, service, and attitude standpoint.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 01:48 PM

One man's candy can be another man's poison.

Yep, amazing how judgmental everyone is. So it's frowned upon for those that want to watch the Academy Awards Red Carpet in HD. Yep, it's on other channels as well, but some might like the E! coverage. Everyone's an expert.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:07 PM

"It's no surprise that we can't have peace in this world when we can't even discuss television providers without angry exchanges..."

More's the pity. Up to this point, I've read the posts with a sense of bemusement. Upon further reflection, being this is television, the tone of the discussion is embarrassing, and not funny at all.

Sign of the times, I suppose, and we all think we have God on our side.
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:25 PM

This is like a bunch of rednecks fighting over who makes the best pickup.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:50 PM

This is like a bunch of rednecks fighting over who makes the best pickup.

I was thinking drunks in a sport's bar arguing over their team, but guess it's the same thing.
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#136 OFFLINE   dah_sab

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:55 PM

I recently switched from DISH to DirecTV.

What I miss from DISH: what I consider to be the slightly better GUI, RAI (Italian TV,) BBCA in HD, OTA local recording (better PQ,) local subchannels, no ads in the guide, manual recordings which show program info.

What I like about DirecTV: GolTV (essential for the soccer fanatic,) every single Champions League game, Fox Soccer Plus HD, Audience Channel, not paying for locals guide info, easier "season pass" setup, Whole Home w/4 total tuners & more storage space rather than one w/2 + OTA, no charge for extra DVRs, YouTube (when it's there, & so far not on 59e, dammit,) (seriously, wtf?) only one dish, 6 channels of Australian Open tennis during the first week of the tournament (and I'm assuming similar for other tournaments,) 2 custom Favorites, DirecTV subtitles, show info (cast, etc,) HDMI that works.

I'm sure there's more, I just can't think of it right now. I'm very happy now, though I was initially regretting it before I discovered trick play. Not having that (or rather not knowing it was there,) would've made me seriously consider switching back. I consider myself very tech-knowledgeable & yet I didn't discover this for about 6 weeks. Probably says more about me than DirecTV.

So yeah, I'm very happy I switched after some initial trepidation.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:58 PM

What I miss from DISH: OTA local recording (better PQ,) local subchannels.

Maybe I'm not understanding this, but adding an AM-21 will do this for you.
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:51 PM

This has been an interesting read. It's been awhile since I did an Dish vs. DirecTV comparison and I am surprised. Currently, I have Choice Xtra (68.99) and found the Dish America’s Top 250 to be a close match (69.99). Dish has the following in HD which DirecTV does not:

8)

ENCORE
ID
H2
HALL MC HD
TCM
DIY
BBCHD
FMC
TMC
TMC XTRA
FXHD
NatGeo Wild

: |

TRUTV
TV LAND
LMN
E!
STYLE
OWN

OTHER PROS:
You can attach an external HD to the Dish 722 DVR and still use the internal drive. Their DVR svc is $6/mo and HD is free.

CONS:
HD offerings on Premium channels are not up to par - this is a bummer for me. Lower HD resolution? Inferior customer service - especially if it’s off shore.

I’ve been pleased with DirecTV so switching to Dish would not be an easy choice. I’d enjoy to hear from more of you except for emotional fanboys.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:57 PM

This has been an interesting read. It's been awhile since I did an Dish vs. DirecTV comparison and I am surprised. Currently, I have Choice Xtra (68.99) and found the Dish America’s Top 250 to be a close match (69.99). Dish has the following in HD which DirecTV does not:

8)

ENCORE
ID
H2
HALL MC HD
TCM
DIY
BBCHD
FMC
TMC
TMC XTRA
FXHD
NatGeo Wild

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TRUTV
TV LAND
LMN
E!
STYLE
OWN

OTHER PROS:
You can attach an external HD to the Dish 722 DVR and still use the internal drive. Their DVR svc is $6/mo and HD is free.

CONS:
HD offerings on Premium channels are not up to par - this is a bummer for me. Lower HD resolution? Inferior customer service - especially if it’s off shore.

I’ve been pleased with DirecTV so switching to Dish would not be an easy choice. I’d enjoy to hear from more of you except for emotional fanboys.


Am I crazy or does D have FX, TMC and Encore in HD?

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:19 PM

You're correct, my mistake. I should have said "while D has TMC and Encore in HD" they are premium channels and not part of the Choice Xtra package. - Thx

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:21 PM

This is like a bunch of rednecks fighting over who makes the best pickup.


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#142 OFFLINE   zimm7778

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:25 PM

This has been an interesting read. It's been awhile since I did an Dish vs. DirecTV comparison and I am surprised. Currently, I have Choice Xtra (68.99) and found the Dish America’s Top 250 to be a close match (69.99). Dish has the following in HD which DirecTV does not:

8)

ENCORE
ID
H2
HALL MC HD
TCM
DIY
BBCHD
FMC
TMC
TMC XTRA
FXHD
NatGeo Wild

: |

TRUTV
TV LAND
LMN
E!
STYLE
OWN

OTHER PROS:
You can attach an external HD to the Dish 722 DVR and still use the internal drive. Their DVR svc is $6/mo and HD is free.

CONS:
HD offerings on Premium channels are not up to par - this is a bummer for me. Lower HD resolution? Inferior customer service - especially if it’s off shore.

I’ve been pleased with DirecTV so switching to Dish would not be an easy choice. I’d enjoy to hear from more of you except for emotional fanboys.


As someone stated earlier, Dish can have 200 more HD channels than Directv but if you don't watch those channels it doesn't matter to you. Before the Fall of 2007 the average person could really gripe about Directv's severe lack of HD content. That changed over those couple of months as I'd say most of the most important channels had their HD channels light up on D*. Over the last 4+ years they've slowly added more. To many there are some glaring omissions. To me, there aren't. I don't have premium movie channels although most of those are now in HD as well. I don't care about most any other basic channel not up. I watch GSN but I only watch the old game shows on there so it not being in HD isn't an issue. I never even look at what's on TruTV until the basketball tournament. I don't care about DIY, Military channels, or anything else I can really think of other than perhaps Headline News but even that I just want so the once in a blue moon I go buy the channel it looks nicer. This boils down to what you are most interested in. I love sports. I sub to Extra Innings, Center Ice, and Sunday Ticket. Every other channel I care about is available in HD or the fact that it's in SD doesn't bug me. I just bought a 3D TV this week so seeing the few things in 3D from Directv are also cool, not sure if Dish has any 3D programming. They may, I just don't know. Im also content with the Directv equipment and the costs each month for having it. Theres also something to be said for having a service so long you pretty much know where everything is and not having to relearn new channel numbers. So, I'm satisfied with Directv and have no plans to switch. But as stated, others may feel differently.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:31 PM

Both DirecTV and TWC offer my locals in HD while DISH does not. End of discussion.


It's only the end if you can't get them OTA either.


CBS-HD is a sub-channel of the local ABC affiliate (WENY) in 480i and FOX-HD is a low power feed about 18 miles away and I can't pick it up with a chimney-mounted antenna. Sorry, but it just looks bad on DISHs end when the other two providers offer HD locals and they don't.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 10:06 PM

Maybe I'm not understanding this, but adding an AM-21 will do this for you.


Yes and no. The AM21, just like the HR20, it gets the OTA data from some D* database and that isn't always complete. With E*, the OTA scans for whatever is available.

That said, I think someone said that the AM21 with the HR34 does a scan although I could be misremembering.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 10:25 PM

I’ve been pleased with DirecTV so switching to Dish would not be an easy choice. I’d enjoy to hear from more of you except for emotional fanboys.


I would say, since the base price is essentially the same, you would have to compare the differences between the two services and see what is most important to you.

More basic HD: advantage Dish, by a wide margin
More sports: advantage DirecTV, by a wide margin
HD premium channels: DirecTV
Picture quality: DirecTV edge slightly for HD, Dish edge for SD
3-D: No comparision. DirecTV. Even if you don't have a 3-D TV now, will you be getting one in the next 2 years?
Equipment and technology: subjective, but I would give DirecTV the edge based on the HR34 and whole-home DVR

If everything were equal (or nearly so) I would go with the provider which offered the lowest price. If you are out of contract with DirecTV (to avoid cancellation fees), I'm sure Dish would give you a great new customer offer which would save you a few bucks. Or you could call DirecTV and tell them you're switching and they will probably give you a pretty good discount as well. And even if you do switch, DirecTV will be bombarding your mailbox with "come back" offers.

If you find something you enjoy with DirecTV (sports, for example) that Dish is deficient in, then it makes no sense to switch, regardless of the price. Although I would still politely speak with DirecTV retention and ask them for a discount based on your considering Dish as an option.

Good luck making your decision.

Edited by jimbo56, 25 February 2012 - 10:30 PM.


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Posted 26 February 2012 - 05:44 AM

I "had" Dish for 3 days last summer in a bed & breakfast. I thought it was beyond horrible. The GUI was awful, the PQ wasn't as good as D* (my B&B had HDTV, and the sets had pretty good PQ on locals). There were so many goofy channels too.

My wife said that E* reminded her of HSN back when they had crazy hosts with "Tootie the horn" while D* was more like QVC. (QVC appealing to a different demographic).

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:26 AM

We had Directv for several years. We decided to go with DISH because at that time their HD content was far superior to DTV. When we bought a new house and tried to use the movers advantage, we were told it would be 30 days! I immediately cancelled and got DTV again.

After 2yrs we will be moving back to DISH in the next 30 days or so.

Over this time period we have noticed no difference in the PQ as far as we're concerned! There probably is but we're just not that into it. Customer service seemed the same from both providers to us.

The one and only reason for us moving back is because I'm not a sports fanatic and my wife loves more free movies. It's really as easy as that as far as we're concerned. To each their own.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:49 AM

Here FIOS is not even offered.. it's Directv, Dish, or Comcast...

Something has to be said about Comcast when 9 of the 10 homes on my block have a Directv dish mounted on the property:lol:


I like this. So true. The same can be said here in my complex. Getting a satellite signal here is HARD due to trees and the weird alignment of the buildings and only being allowed to place the dish on "controlled" patios, half of which face the wrong direction, like mine. My upstairs neighbor let Directv put the dish on his balcony so I could get a signal. Others across the complex do the same. Over half the buildings have satellite dishes, most of which are Directv. I am surprised to see OTA antennas, too.

The complex across the street is more lax with where the dishes can go, there are literally lines of them on the ground with numbers on the back (I assume the unit numbers). If my count is correct, only around 15 or 16 units over there (there are about 40) DON'T have satellite. I don't know what the Dish vs. Directv is over there. There could be more on the other sides of the buildings that I can't see.

This is what happens when Time Warner Cable is the only other option. They're just as bad as Dish with sports. Not all of our RSNs, no Sunday Ticket, faulty equipment, carriage disputes all the time. Yeah, they have the most "HD" of any provider I have ever seen (it's shocking to see what they have in HD, over 23 basic channels that we don't have) - but the PQ is just horrid. Dish isn't horrid, but few FT RSN HD? No ABC Family? ESPNU? How is that even possible!?!? Not to mention the sky-high price...

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:20 AM

i'm actually with both dish and direct right now for a short period of time and I have to say that both have their issue's.

Directs picture quality is slightly better
Directs DVR and on screen guide are better
Direct has more full time HD sports than Dish.

FSAZ is unwatchable most times on Dish.

Dish has more movie channels in HD Epix etc

Sling feature on Dish is very hit and miss mostly miss right now (software issue)

Like the local weather feature on dish (Weatherscan)

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:23 AM

i'm actually with both dish and direct right now for a short period of time and I have to say that both have their issue's.

Directs picture quality is slightly better
Directs DVR and on screen guide are better
Direct has more full time HD sports than Dish.

FSAZ is unwatchable most times on Dish.

Dish has more movie channels in HD Epix etc

Sling feature on Dish is very hit and miss mostly miss right now (software issue)

Like the local weather feature on dish (Weatherscan)


I forgot to mention that Blockbuster is a joke if you try and watch it on your TV, you have search through 100's or even 1000's of titles, there is no real search function unless i'm totally missing it somewhere




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