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DBSTALK First Look: 2nd Generation DECA


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#1 OFFLINE   Stuart Sweet

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:08 PM

The new DECA is here!

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DECA-2 First Look


The DECA2 is not available from third parties yet. Some installers have reported having them on trucks.

Click through to read the exclusive first look! As always, the latest version of Adobe Reader is recommended.

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#2 OFFLINE   spartanstew

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:11 PM

Nice job, Stu.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:19 PM

Nice work as always. :)

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:23 PM

Great job!

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:26 PM

While the network and cLink LEDs may have been combined, the old network LED was pointless.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:27 PM

Nice, as usual!
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:28 PM

Nice First Look.

The new form factor looks good.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:29 PM

Nice job as usual.

Does this one run a little cooler the the white one?

See post My Setup for configuration info.


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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:37 PM

Looks good Stuart!
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:37 PM

I wonder if this one has any future proof stuff in it for MOCA.

Nice form factor.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 05:46 PM

Nice job as usual.

Does this one run a little cooler the the white one?


Hard to say after a short test. The one it replaced was in a very well ventilated area and stayed cool... so far this one is too.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:07 PM

Very nice

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:42 PM

In speaking with the Entropic folks at CES back in January, and seeing the prototype version there....they indicated that this version would probably support MOCA v1.1.

Entropic indicated there was really no significant difference between MOCA 1.0 and 1.1, but still curious if any of the testers confirmed which version is supported in the new units.

The next version of DECA, we were told, would be supporting MOCA 2.0 - not until 2013 most likely based on the reported information at CES. That next version will ramp up the bandwidth/speed support further.

The new units in this form factor appeared to be very well constructed and durable. The smaller size will surely be appreciated by installers.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:25 PM

In speaking with the Entropic folks at CES back in January, and seeing the prototype version there....they indicated that this version would probably support MOCA v1.1.

Entropic indicated there was really no significant difference between MOCA 1.0 and 1.1, but still curious if any of the testers confirmed which version is supported in the new units.

The next version of DECA, we were told, would be supporting MOCA 2.0 - not until 2013 most likely based on the reported information at CES. That next version will ramp up the bandwidth/speed support further.

The new units in this form factor appeared to be very well constructed and durable. The smaller size will surely be appreciated by installers.

I tend to think DECA is 1.1:


The MoCA 1.0 offers greater than 100 Mpbs MAC rates and 270 Mbps PHY rate. Products with MoCA 1.0 embedded are available from several companies and include set top boxes, routers and gateways, bridges and ONTs.
The operating frequency is 850-1500, well above the ranges employed by other CE devices and services. This is another benefit of the technology, as it does not interfere with other devices and services already in use.

MoCA 1.1 is an extension to MoCA 1.0 and offers 175 Mpbs MAC rates (PHY rate remains the same), parameterized quality of service (PQoS) for provisioning and bandwidth management of real time data requests for video applications, and 16 node network extension.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:34 PM

Looks good. Thanks for the report. :D

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:03 PM

Nice work Stuart.
Glad to see it finally out there. The first generation was so big it didn't fit behind my HR20. This so much nicer.

Appreciate the info on 1.1 VOS. That was my impression at CES. The rep at the booth said something about 2.0 next year and it was necessary to fully provide multimedia support to the RVU clients. I tried to probe on the exact details of what it can add that RVU can't do today and he couldn't or wouldn't explain further.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:18 PM

Appreciate the info on 1.1 VOS. That was my impression at CES. The rep at the booth said something about 2.0 next year and it was necessary to fully provide multimedia support to the RVU clients. I tried to probe on the exact details of what it can add that RVU can't do today and he couldn't or wouldn't explain further.

I've heard from someone with a redh, that 2.0 isn't going to be coming for some time [if at all], since 1.1 seems to be enough for the purpose.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:36 PM

As far as I know, this new DECA is still a 1.1 adapter. It's not the multifrequency, multiprovider universal DECA 2.0 device that was shown at CES (although that one looked a lot like this one.)
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:03 PM

Nice work Stuart!

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:05 PM

As far as I know, this new DECA is still a 1.1 adapter. It's not the multifrequency, multiprovider universal DECA 2.0 device that was shown at CES (although that one looked a lot like this one.)

From what I've read, 2.0 uses twice the bandwidth. so 525-575 MHz, would become 500-600 MHz, which would still fit with the 475-625 MHz filter/splitter ranges.
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