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RUMOR: Pay Per View Window Expanded to 48 Hours


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#26 OFFLINE   georule

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 07:23 PM

We do 6-8 VoD PPV/year, so this'll be welcome at times. Even as few as 28-36 hours would have been handy a couple times. If you consider your viewing windows are often the same time-frame each day, 24 hours basically cuts you off just as you're getting to your next opportunity.

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#27 OFFLINE   kevinwmsn

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 07:36 PM

I wonder if PPV #s are down?
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:14 PM

I haven't bought a PPV since the viewing window was put in and this will not change my mind at all.
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:34 PM

I think this is great news for those who rent DIRECTV PPV movies, as it gives them longer to view the movies, but it's not going to entice me to rent a DIRECTV movie.

Why? The old Netflix and Premiums argument: For one monthly payment that's just a few bucks more than DIRECTV charges for a single PPV I can stream movies from a huge Netflix library and watch them as many times as I want during the month. I also have the Premium package, so I can be patient for the movies to go from PPV to the Premiums and I can record and watch those as many times as I want.

Until DIRECTV goes the unlimited streaming route I'll be sticking with my delayed gratification plan...

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 08:53 PM

Good deal. I used to buy about 1-2 per month but lately have lots of HD built up and just haven't had the time, but nice to know of the extended view time now. Very nice.
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Posted 13 March 2012 - 09:01 PM

I'd be more interested if it was lower priced and I could take it with me on my Nomad as I travel.

So if I start my travel on Monday but only watch half, I'd need the ability to watch the second half a few days later.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 09:55 PM

We do the same here. I hate renting then having to return and waiting in a line and outside as that is the only choice for redbox around here. Its worth the extra money for the ease of use.:)

Cool, we use the PPV option for our movies. I like not having to go get them or return them.



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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:29 PM

Finally. That's what I think. :)

With kids, it's sometimes hard to finish a movie in one sitting and I always wanted more time. So if this rumor really comes to fruition, it will be a welcome change.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:13 AM

Sounds like revenues are down, maybe way down if they're finally budging on their 24-hour limit.

As for me I watch zero PPVs now, mostly because of the time limit but then also am not in the habit of using PPV. Will I watch more PPVs? Even an expanded time limit is a major impediment as I rarely get a movie watched in one sitting and I'm unlikely to spend the money and start watching a show I may never be able to finish, and now I'm still not in the habit of using PPV.

If these companies want me to use their service regularly then they've got to get me using it at all, and I don't think this small time limit expansion will do it.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:19 AM

It will certainly change it from a "no way" to an option. Most of the times when we do watch a movie, it is a spur of the moment type thing and this change will at least allow us 2 nights to finish watching it. It is a welcome change.

I started a thread a couple of years ago about if it was the studios forcing this, then why did Uverse have 48-hour windows on some movies. I do wonder if PPV's are down and the studios see this as a reason why.

And while I don't rent enough movies that the price is a consideration, I do think they are not even close to being competitive with the other options out there. If I rented 2-3 a week then it would matter, but a couple a year, it doesn't. Yes, I realize that you pay something for convenience, but 5-6X more?

On the other hand, if I am sitting on my couch and decide I want to watch a movie, then my options are 1) pay DirecTV $6, 2) pay Redbox or BB $1+ and use a gallon of gas ($4) and hope they have the movie I want while taking 15+ minutes to do it. At that point, it becomes competitive. But for those who plan ahead and have NF or stop by RB/BB on the way home, it is not.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:29 AM

It will certainly change it from a "no way" to an option. Most of the times when we do watch a movie, it is a spur of the moment type thing and this change will at least allow us 2 nights to finish watching it. It is a welcome change.

I started a thread a couple of years ago about if it was the studios forcing this, then why did Uverse have 48-hour windows on some movies. I do wonder if PPV's are down and the studios see this as a reason why.

And while I don't rent enough movies that the price is a consideration, I do think they are not even close to being competitive with the other options out there. If I rented 2-3 a week then it would matter, but a couple a year, it doesn't. Yes, I realize that you pay something for convenience, but 5-6X more?

On the other hand, if I am sitting on my couch and decide I want to watch a movie, then my options are 1) pay DirecTV $6, 2) pay Redbox or BB $1+ and use a gallon of gas ($4) and hope they have the movie I want while taking 15+ minutes to do it. At that point, it becomes competitive. But for those who plan ahead and have NF or stop by RB/BB on the way home, it is not.


My guess (and it is only a guess) is the time of the viewing window was dependant on D*'s negotiations with the studio and the cut D* would get for each movie. When the window was introduced there were some here that insisted the 24 hrs was a result of the studios only. However, other providers somehow were able to get a 48 hour window (Vudu is another one that offers a 48 hour window).

I think 48 hours is reasonable, 72 would be better IMO. I can see the rationale for making a window (what is the incentive to buy the movie when you get record a PPV and keep it for the life of your hard drive).

The increase window will make D* more of an option for me, however, I still prefer the true on demand and ease with Vudu.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:21 AM

Such a rumor is the Taliban's attempt to undermind DirecTV's PPV market. ;)

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:54 AM

Why not just come up with a PPV package where you get every movie on PPV for a low price like 40-50 bucks a month including events? I Would be all over that.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:58 AM

I can see the rationale for making a window (what is the incentive to buy the movie when you get record a PPV and keep it for the life of your hard drive).


But at the same time, I can wait 6 more months and record it off HBO etc. and keep it for the life of my drive.

I think the best solution would be unlimited viewings as long as it is available on PPV. Lets face it, if you are going to copy it with a capture card, you will do it the first time you watch it.

Now, knowing the above is never going to happen, the second best solution would be 1) unlimited viewings for 48 hours or 2) one complete viewing during the PPV period. DVR's are smart enough to know if you have watched it all the way through, so you could finish watching it on your schedule.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:19 AM

Well it's a good start but they are still to much money
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:24 PM

Why not just come up with a PPV package where you get every movie on PPV for a low price like 40-50 bucks a month including events? I Would be all over that.


i guess people would like that, but on an economic level, it would be impractical. PPV program providers pay a premium to present their programs on the various PPV outlets. And with the economy as it is, and with some PPV program providers struggling like the WWE, they wouldn't make enough revenue on a one price for all model. I'll stay with Netflix, even though the Encore networks are pulling their content.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:27 PM

48 hours, huh? Still not worth it IMO.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:30 PM

Easier to rent from redbox.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:57 PM

Easier to rent from redbox.

That is completely untrue. What could be easier than sitting on your couch and pressing play? You have to leave your house to use Redbox, at least I do.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:03 PM

Easier to rent from redbox.

If it is easier, you must have a Red Box in your house. :lol:
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:39 PM

No thanks Netflix works for me

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:54 PM

I think this is great news for those who rent DIRECTV PPV movies, as it gives them longer to view the movies, but it's not going to entice me to rent a DIRECTV movie.

Why? The old Netflix and Premiums argument: For one monthly payment that's just a few bucks more than DIRECTV charges for a single PPV I can stream movies from a huge Netflix library and watch them as many times as I want during the month. I also have the Premium package, so I can be patient for the movies to go from PPV to the Premiums and I can record and watch those as many times as I want.

Until DIRECTV goes the unlimited streaming route I'll be sticking with my delayed gratification plan...


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:09 PM

PPV is WAY overpriced and really quit watching PPV when they imposed the viewing limits.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:47 PM

PPV is WAY overpriced and really quit watching PPV when they imposed the viewing limits.


For me, it is priced just right. It is worth it for me to have the movie automatically download and show up in my queue along with my other programs every Tuesday when released and I just have to hit play to watch (you can pre-queue most movies while they are still in the theater like Netflix USED to allow you to do).

The only downside was the 24 hour window for us. We would never rent a movie over 90 minutes, but now that should not be an issue anymore since we can split it over two or three days (whatever it turns out to be I guess).

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:10 PM

I hope this turns out to be true. I rent about 10 PPV movies a year and the short viewing window was already irritating. It is great to just make that impulse buy to see a very new movie without even having to raise the recliner!! :)

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