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How to get >2Tb storage??


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#121 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 02:44 PM

EXACTLY!!! :)

I have lost 2 Hard Drives and it was Very Painful!!! :nono2:

Buy better drives.

!rolling

[You must have known that was coming.... :D]

But you, David, and I are pretty much on the same page that there is certainly a viable desire for the ability to store content for extended periods of time.
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#122 OFFLINE   dod1450

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 02:48 PM

Is there a way on configuring for Raid 6? I use Raid 6 for Petabyte disk storage

I don't think you have many options. RAID 0 would increase capacity, but if you lose one drive, you lose all data. I don't think there are any economical ways to get RAID5, plus the 2TB limit would still apply.

Swapping drives, you'd have to keep the Series links and such current on both drives.

Sounds like you've done a lot of recording in a few weeks. I thought a 2TB should be able to handle more than 400 hours of MPEG4 HD.



#123 OFFLINE   Richierich

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 02:48 PM

Buy better drives.

!rolling

[You must have known that was coming.... :D]


They were Stock TiVo Drives in 2 HR10-250s that Eventually Died!!! :rolleyes:

Edited by Richierich, 16 July 2012 - 11:37 AM.

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#124 OFFLINE   hdtvfan0001

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 02:49 PM

There were Stock TiVo Drives in 2 HR10-250s that Eventually Died!!! :rolleyes:

:lol: Well that explains it... :D
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:35 PM

That was indeed the plan for some time.


Uh huh... I just think your "source", that you're more than happy to tout that you know, was blowing smoke you know where...

All that said, recent DirecTV presentations to the financial community have "hinted" that this is now on their roadmap. For that reason, as well as the HR34 added recording loss risk exposure, I suspect we may actually see some form of solution sooner than later.


Numerous things have been "hinted" at over the years in various presentations and have still never come to fruition.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:39 PM

Archiving is something that every content provider is against due to the very nature of their business. If you can save something permanently on a HD why would you buy their box sets? Why would you buy the movies.


Exactly... Content providers wouldn't allow "permanent storage" of their content.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:41 PM

But you, David, and I are pretty much on the same page that there is certainly a viable desire for the ability to store content for extended periods of time.


But a desire doesn't mean you'll get what you want.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:43 PM

Is there a way on configuring for Raid 6? I use Raid 6 for Petabyte disk storage


Using RAID 6 would be like trying to swat a fly with a tank. RAID 1 is all you need.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:46 PM

Exactly... Content providers wouldn't allow "permanent storage" of their content.


Well, Archiving Recordings is No More a Means of "Permanent Storage" than Storing those Recordings on a DVR, you are just Storing a Copy of your Original Recording on a Backup Storage Device such as a USB External Drive off of a Nomad Device Not for Viewing Purposes but for the Purpose of Archiving.

With Nomad right now you are Storing another version of your Original Recording on Nomad prior to Nomad Offloading a Transcoded Version to your Mobile Device.

Also, you have already paid for the right to Store and View those Recordings on your DVR so why not be able to Archive them for your Own Purposes.

With Nomad you are already Storing those Recordings on Nomad and also your Mobile Device so I don't see a Content Protection Issue.

It is not like I am letting someone else View these Recordings on their Device.

Edited by Richierich, 09 May 2012 - 04:02 PM.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:58 PM

Exactly... Content providers wouldn't allow "permanent storage" of their content.


Utterly bee s ! :down:

Then wouldn't be CD, DVD and Blu Ray disks, not telling about VHS cassettes.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:02 PM

Utterly bee s ! :down:

Then wouldn't be CD, DVD and Blu Ray disks, not telling about VHS cassettes.


There's a difference between a blu-ray that the content providers make and distribute and you holding on to a recording forever.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:08 PM

There's a difference between a blu-ray that the content providers make and distribute and you holding on to a recording forever.


What is the Difference between me Storing a Recording on my DVR for Viewing versus Storing that same Recording on a Backup External Drive for Purposes of Archiving???

I have already paid for the Right to View and Contain that Source Material on my DVR so what is the Big Deal of making a Copy that only I can use???
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:15 PM

What is the Difference between me Storing a Recording on my DVR for Viewing versus Storing that same Recording on a Backup External Drive for Purposes of Archiving???


Depending upon the content anywhere from $20 to $100+. Paying for HBO isn't considered you paying to "own" a movie you record.

I'm not saying the providers are right and I'm certainly not saying that their blu-ray prices are great but it is their content and their copyright.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:28 PM

Fair Use Act does not limiting your copy by time frame.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:42 PM

Depending upon the content anywhere from $20 to $100+. Paying for HBO isn't considered you paying to "own" a movie you record.

I'm not saying the providers are right and I'm certainly not saying that their blu-ray prices are great but it is their content and their copyright.


You are talking about Movies and TV Series Stuff and I am just talking about Recording everyday stuff like a Newscast or Diners, Driveins and Dives.

I have Paid for the Right to have those Recordings in my House for Viewing and if I want to make a Copy for Backup Purposes why would they care as long as no one else can View it.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:09 PM

Fair Use Act does not limiting your copy by time frame.


The fair use act doesn't even apply here.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:10 PM

You are talking about Movies and TV Series Stuff and I am just talking about Recording everyday stuff like a Newscast or Diners, Driveins and Dives.


Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives IS a TV Series...

I have Paid for the Right to have those Recordings in my House for Viewing and if I want to make a Copy for Backup Purposes why would they care as long as no one else can View it.


It doesn't matter why they care, the point is they do.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:11 PM

Really ? ! The CD, DVD, VHS are the copies. Not originals.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:12 PM

Really ? ! The CD, DVD, VHS are the copies. Not originals.


Exactly! Fair Use Act only covers your usage of an original. If you're talking about a recording made by a DVR, which we are but I'm not sure you are, then you do NOT own an "original".
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:15 PM

Currently none of the providers offer protection against HDD failure, and realistically thats not what most are asking for.

The archive system that brand E uses comes pretty close. The idea being that a drive that isn't plugged in isn't likely to fail. If you're so inclined, you can record a show more than once and make archive copies to different hard drives. None of this necessarily requires external hardware or computers.

Given how easy it would be to implement account-based keys (given that they're already dealing with exchanging keys for WHDS), you pretty much have to assume that DIRECTV is committed to not doing it (unless you have reliable insight to the contrary).

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