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#1 OFFLINE   kevinturcotte

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:00 PM

My Onkyo A/V receiver has died, and I need to replace it. Now kinda seems like a bad time to get a new receiver though, with 4k resolution on the horizon. I'm wondering if there are any receivers out there that are capable of dealing with a 4k resolution though? Much rather purchase one of these and be future proof (For awhile, of course lol).

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:04 PM

http://www.superfi.c...-upscaling.aspx
http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B004V8KWQO

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#3 OFFLINE   kevinturcotte

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:06 PM

http://www.superfi.c...-upscaling.aspx
http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B004V8KWQO


I don't want it to just upconvert, I want it to actually be able to process and output a 4k signal.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:14 PM

I don't want it to just upconvert, I want it to actually be able to process and output a 4k signal.


Probably need to wait until they come out with a 4K monitor, and release specs, but HDMI switching is switching. If 4K is so great, it shouldnt need any processing, nor would I want to introduce anything of the sort in my path...

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:16 PM

I guess processing was the wrong word. I want it to accept a native 4k signal and pass it unmolested to my 4k display (But also be able to downconvert to 1080p until I upgrade to a 4k Tv).

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:19 PM

I guess processing was the wrong word. I want it to accept a native 4k signal and pass it unmolested to my 4k display (But also be able to downconvert to 1080p until I upgrade to a 4k Tv).


I would submit, that given the past, the receiver/satellite box/cable box will be the one responsible for downconverting, and you should not need any external device to do any more than switching. I dont see DirecTv coming out with a receiver that outputs 4K with no way to output it at 1080 as well. It just doesnt play into their previous record on new equipment. Every box to date, has had backwards compatability at LEAST one step backwards, and usually two steps backwards.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:21 PM

I know, but I wouldn't want to get an A/V receiver that could ONLY output a 4k signal. Just let me select (My Tv supports x, y, and z). Then when I finally upgrade to a 4k Tv, I don't have to do out and buy ANOTHER A/V receiver for 4k resolution.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:24 PM

Then just make sure you get one that has pass-through switching.
Im not up on the specs for HDMI 1.4a, but if it can handle that resolution/bitrate, then you should be ok. Now if they are going to have to come out with a new HDMI spec for it, then nothing today will work.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:27 PM

Are you really purchasing electronics based on what "might" be an affordable technology in 4-5 years?
If you stop responding to them or put them on ignore, then eventually they'll go away.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:31 PM

Might read up on this: http://reviews.cnet....tion-explained/

Current prices of the few available ones are in the $50K to $300K range :)

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:07 PM

I wouldn't say it wise idea to buy 4k AV box for future deployment. Absolutely immature idea.
You should slip on it a couple years before shell your money.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:48 PM

HDMI 1.4 supports 4K

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 04:03 AM

I wouldn't say it wise idea to buy 4k AV box for future deployment. Absolutely immature idea.
You should slip on it a couple years before shell your money.

4k content in any quantity and delivery of it....is probably 3+ years away. Many of us learned that first hand at CES 2012, as confirmed by at least 5 different manufacturers there.

So I'd agree it's premature to invest in hardware at this point.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:07 AM

4k content in any quantity and delivery of it....is probably 3+ years away. Many of us learned that first hand at CES 2012, as confirmed by at least 5 different manufacturers there.

So I'd agree it's premature to invest in hardware at this point.


Or even actually worry about buying something today, because it will probably be time for a new one by the time 4k is a reality for us to actually be getting it from broadcasters.

Heck there arent even that many 4k theaters in the country yet. When in Chicago I go to one called movieco...the PQ is fantastic.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:09 AM

The way everybody's been talking, I thought hardware might actually be out soon this year (And maybe already out). I realize there isn't any content there yet (Well, that we can get our hands on).
So just look for HDMI 1.4 ports and be done? Any differences between 1.4, 1.4a, and 1.4b?

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:16 AM

Who knows, you may actually need to replace the new A/V receiver before 4K is affordable.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:21 AM

Who knows, you may actually need to replace the new A/V receiver before 4K is affordable.


True. This one only lasted 2 years. Like to get more time out of the new one though!
Is there anything big looming on the horizon, tech wise, in say the next month or 2 that would be worth waiting for?

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:24 AM

True. This one only lasted 2 years. Like to get more time out of the new one though!
Is there anything big looming on the horizon, tech wise, in say the next month or 2 that would be worth waiting for?



What model Onkyo did you have? Maybe take it and get it repaired.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:28 AM

What model Onkyo did you have? Maybe take it and get it repaired.


It's the Onkyo TX-NR5007. It's already been repaired 3 times under warranty for the SAME problem, and now it's happened a 4th time. They said it's gonna be close to $500 to get it fixed. They said it's a known hardware issue, so it will probably keep happening.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:55 AM

It's the Onkyo TX-NR5007. It's already been repaired 3 times under warranty for the SAME problem, and now it's happened a 4th time. They said it's gonna be close to $500 to get it fixed. They said it's a known hardware issue, so it will probably keep happening.


No more Onkyo for you I hope.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:22 AM

Pioneer just released their new line of receivers. HDMI 1.4 all around, networked (except the very cheapest), built-in AirPlay, BlueTooth streaming (with adaptor), Good video conversion, DLNA 7 compliant.

Seems like all the stuff you can put in! They need to make these receivers with software capabilities. You should be able to download Apps for things like Pandora, Sirius, etc. It can't be that difficult. My TV does it so they should be able to.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:52 PM

my onkyo 809 av receiver has some kind of 4k but i didnt pay much attention to it since no one broadcast in that format ,although i read somewhere that there is a 4k demo on you tube ,but i havent checked that out because even if ma av receiver puts out 4k i dont have a 4k tv so whats the point?

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:41 PM

You'll need to buy 4K TV set, now ! That's the point. :D

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:01 AM

my onkyo 809 av receiver has some kind of 4k but i didnt pay much attention to it since no one broadcast in that format ,although i read somewhere that there is a 4k demo on you tube ,but i havent checked that out because even if ma av receiver puts out 4k i dont have a 4k tv so whats the point?


I think there are AVRs that can upconvert and output to 4k, but don't think there are any that can actually accept a native 4k signal.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:14 AM

As I posted on another thread the difference between 4K and 1080p can only be seen on sets with a screen larger than 55" with the viewer seated close to the TV. Prices for today's 4k HDTVs range between $18,000.00 and $500,000.00. Combine that with high unemployment in a poor economy and limited 4K source material. I just don't see 4K making a big splash the way HD did when it was introduced.

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