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#1 OFFLINE   Stewart Vernon

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:44 PM

After fiasco with embedded Sling (model 922), new boxes require external one like 722/722k.


Not sure what "fiasco" you are talking about. The 922 has its problems... but from my reading of the forums I saw as many (or more) people having problems using the Sling adapter with their 722 receivers as I did people with 922.

I grant you that having the Sling as an external module makes it easier to replace if there are problems, though... but I don't remember the "fiasco" of which you refer.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:45 PM

You should follow too, not just sit in a past- new flagman ship [813] is sling-less box.
Isn't a fact of abandoning that idea to integrate Sling ? Perhaps you didn't evaluate my words closely .. well here is again:"After fiasco with embedded Sling (model 922)"

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:08 PM

Perhaps you didn't evaluate my words closely .. well here is again:"After fiasco with embedded Sling (model 922)"


I repeat again... What fiasco?

The 922 has its problems... but I'm not aware of the 922 embedded sling being any more problematic than the Sling adapter. In fact, I'm pretty sure we have more threads on this site with people unable to use the Sling adapter than we have 922 users... but that's because there are less 922 users.

The point is... what fiasco with embedded sling? The Sling adapter seems to me to have had more than its fair share of problems with only the traditional Slingbox being recommended by most as the most consistently reliable way to Sling.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:03 PM

You got me kidding... "new flagman ship [813] is sling-less box" - can you deduct something from the fact ? Adding to that - do you know what base is used for it ? No ?
OK - 922. So, where is the embedded Sling from his "parent" ? Ah, been cut ! Why ? Because of perfect work inside of 922 ? Nope. Because, it was fiasco.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:26 PM

You got me kidding... "new flagman ship [813] is sling-less box" - can you deduct something from the fact ?

About as much as we can deduct from the 813 being a OTA tuner-less box. The lack of a built in (or any at this point) OTA tuner does not make the prior built in and add-in modules a fiasco.

DISH made a choice to use an external sling adapter. Now they can charge $$$ for adding sling instead of giving it away as part of the Hopper. Perhaps the research that went into deciding that OTA was not being used also showed that Sling capability was being used to a level worth building it into every box, at additional cost.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:32 PM

I know for sure, a cost of embedded Sling is much lower then external. Not percents but times.

Doesn't matter how we dissect, but the fact is embedded Sling will not be back anymore.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:49 PM

I know for sure, a cost of embedded Sling is much lower then external. Not percents but times.

Ok, just for fun, lets say embedded Sling is three times cheaper than external. But, just for fun, lets say only one in ten users will ever use it. The overall cost goes up paying to put unused hardware in machines. (Not that DISH has not done that before, such as the Ethernet port on ViP 211's. And perhaps the same port on Joey's will not find a use before Hopper / Joey is replaced by the next "best thing" in three years or so.)

Doesn't matter how we dissect, but the fact is embedded Sling will not be back anymore.

Life changes. The concept of a Sling Enabled DVR transmitting content to small Sling Catchers and Sling enabled monitors has been replaced by Hopper / Joey. Better technology? I hope so.

The market for Sling still exists for other portable devices. Having a USB device that integrates into the receiver is a good way to offer it.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:06 PM

So, why you don't accept the plain fact - "no more embedded sling = fiasco of it" ?

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 01:05 AM

Doesn't matter how we dissect, but the fact is embedded Sling will not be back anymore.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:27 AM

So, why you don't accept the plain fact - "no more embedded sling = fiasco of it" ?


Because there is no evidence of any such "fact" of a fiasco... period. I've asked you to please show me where you see evidence of a fiasco, and you haven't... so please let's drop this as it is off-topic for this thread anyway.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:57 AM

BCM7425


Nay, you mistaken by the combined press release - it's http://www.slingmedi...s-01-09-12.html
not Broadcom, what is a vendor of CPU/decoder's chip for echo and dish.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:01 AM

Because there is no evidence of any such "fact" of a fiasco... period. I've asked you to please show me where you see evidence of a fiasco, and you haven't... so please let's drop this as it is off-topic for this thread anyway.


That was you decision to pick me and raise it the off-topic.
I would say last time, to close it - future will tell you.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 04:07 PM

So, why you don't accept the plain fact - "no more embedded sling = fiasco of it" ?

fact
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.

opinion
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
4. Law . the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.

I'll take "opinion" definition #3, to be nice. There is not enough agreement to call the opinion that imbedded Sling is "a complete and ignominious failure" "fact".

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:18 PM

We already did stop the sidetrack/off-topic discussion and switched to PM.

So, no more points will be posted here.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:19 PM

@n-spring what is the Sling adapter for? The CSR told me when I ordered the morning the Hopper doesn't sling.


So you'll need the adapter if you want use it with h2k. Right ? :)

After fiasco with embedded Sling (model 922), new boxes require external one like 722/722k.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:25 PM

No problem ... it is on topic in this thread.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:25 PM

Oh oh ...

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:31 PM

To be fair... someone just posted in the 722 support forum having problems with the Sling adapter :)

I can't remember the last time someone posted in the 922 forum with a Sling problem :)

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:49 AM

My 922 was problamatic from day one!....At one point it did nothing, as for why I bought it(slinging). After 4 months a dozen phone calls and dozens of PMs with Dirt members it slowly got strightend out on Dishes end....I used a Hava player and a Vulcano...It was there end 100% and after a few months it was finaly admitted to me!

Im happy to say it is finaly stable for the last 2 months, it still stumbles from time to time but much better.

I do not live were my setup is, so need someone to go to my home to reset/unplug it for me, I found it unbelievable they didnt build in some sort of total reset?

The idea is watching TV when away from home, wasnt it?
$200 bucks and $4 a month for more, still bogels the mind....and still no BBMP or whatever the name is this month....sure makes you feel all fuzzy inside paying for more and getting less!

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:57 AM

My 922 was problamatic from day one!....At one point it did nothing, as for why I bought it(slinging). After 4 months a dozen phone calls and dozens of PMs with Dirt members it slowly got strightend out on Dishes end....I used a Hava player and a Vulcano...It was there end 100% and after a few months it was finaly admitted to me!

Im happy to say it is finaly stable for the last 2 months, it still stumbles from time to time but much better.

I do not live were my setup is, so need someone to go to my home to reset/unplug it for me, I found it unbelievable they didnt build in some sort of total reset?

The idea is watching TV when away from home, wasnt it?
$200 bucks and $4 a month for more, still bogels the mind....and still no BBMP or whatever the name is this month....sure makes you feel all fuzzy inside paying for more and getting less!


Well I feel I am getting more so much so I bought my VIP922/wMT2.I believe in My Account in Dish Online there is a reboot receiver off to the right? you can click on.;)

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:32 AM

I think those of us with the 922 and using the Sling got accustomed to dealing with the Sling. It is and has been buggy from the beginning, not nearly as buggy now, but for me it still has occasional issues. Drops, freezes, failure to connect, control issues, changing channels.
I soon will be moving to Hopper and have invested in the Sling Adapter, hopefully it works better. I imagine Sling will continue to expand and improve, internet TV seems to be the fact of the future.
In regard to the "Fiasco"? there was a period when Sling was totally unusable for many with the 922, the frustration was voiced here and elsewhere for several months, obviously Dish solved the major programs and moved on....
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:53 AM

In regard to the "Fiasco"? there was a period when Sling was totally unusable for many with the 922, the frustration was voiced here and elsewhere for several months, obviously Dish solved the major programs and moved on....


Agreed. That's how I remember it. A couple of rounds of major issues that have mostly been solved.

What I don't remember is anyone having a 922 with a hardware Sling failure, and especially not in large numbers to be considered a fiasco. I do, however, have lots of evidence on this very site of people with problems using the Sling adapter on 722 receivers.

So... I can't conclude that the embedded Sling resulted in a failure. Sling may have some problems, but those sure seem to be common to the embedded Sling and the Sling adapter... and not unique to the 922.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:30 AM

What fact I'm based my conclusion ?

It is no future implementation of HW embedded Sling.
First new best of the best DVR [XiP813] come without it and remember - 813 based on 922.
Adding to that 922 is a DVR what is no more allowed to add to your account ...

For me it is dead end of the feature, ie fiasco.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:35 PM

Well I feel I am getting more so much so I bought my VIP922/wMT2.I believe in My Account in Dish Online there is a reboot receiver off to the right? you can click on.;)


That is incorrect.....you MUST unplug it to trully reset your box to reboot...and how you can be happy paying $4 more for what? Guess Im harder to please for when I had mine installed it was there "top of the line" stb at the time.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:59 PM

For me it is dead end of the feature, ie fiasco.

If embedding were the problem I might agree. But it isn't.

DISH had problems with ALL of their Sling Adapters. Those problems, including the problems with the 922, have been fixed. The feature, Sling, is not dead and is supported on Day 1 of the latest receiver release.




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