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DIRECTV has lost and got back Tribune stations due to retrans dispute


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#321 OFFLINE   bixler

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#322 OFFLINE   Chuck W

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:35 AM

Well, I'm with Directv on this one. I made sure I complained directly to Tribune. Seems these stations are just getting overly greedy these days.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:40 AM

there sports has gotten better over the years


What are you talking about? They barely show any baseball games anymore. I remember they were pretty much the exclusive broadcaster of Cubs baseball. What are there 10 games this year?

I hope DirecTV holds their ground. I'm in a position to be able to watch them OTA.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:43 AM

yuck; WGN channel 9 is local in the chicagoland area; guess i cant watch the hawks tonight


As others have stated... Put a short piece of wire into the Ant-Coax jack of your TV. Or better yet get a cheap set top antenna. They broadcast on UHF 19, so it should be fairly easy to pickup.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:49 AM

I will say it again from previous posts...

Directv should have never cut corners on the OTA tuners. In Rochester, NY they refuse to carry CW(it is a sub-channel) which has twenty Yankees games. If they had the tuners, then many people would be able to simply watch it with very little problem. It would not cover all, but would make it less onerous to lose a local channel.


Are you sure they are not broadcasting those games on an alternate channel.

For instance, in Chicago if a game is on Comcast Sports Network Alternative, they light up channel 666-1 HD, which is one number higher than the normal 665 Comcast Sports Net.

Just a thought.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:49 AM

So I assume the Cubs games will not appear on MLB EI as well?
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:54 AM

So I assume the Cubs games will not appear on MLB EI as well?


Well the Cubs feeds that are WGN wont appear in EI, but the CSN Chicago feeds will along with the opposing teams feeds.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:55 AM

I'm well within the grade A service contour area for my local CW outlet KTLA-5 in Los Angeles here in South LA, and receive it fine OTA (AM21 on a HR22-100). But its a little funny since the shut-off the CW east DNS feed ch. 394 no longer shows as grayed-out in the CIG guide listings, yet if still gives me a 721 CNA message if I attempt to tune to it.


Same thing in Orange County, CA

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 10:56 AM

I'll save my hostility until Thursday. If I miss the Cubs season opener then I won't be a happy camper.


If this doesn't get solved by Opening Day, you may be ok since you are outside the WGN broadcast area. You might find the game on an alternate channel. I would check the MLB extra channels. You never know what DirecTV might turn on for people outside of the broadcast signal area.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 11:18 AM

Another thing to consider is that other carriers will be watching this closely. If tribune gets away with something here, they will go after other Sat, Cable, Phone, etc. carriers and do the same thing.

I hope DirecTV holds ground.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 11:41 AM

As others have stated... Put a short piece of wire into the Ant-Coax jack of your TV. Or better yet get a cheap set top antenna. They broadcast on UHF 19, so it should be fairly easy to pickup.


I live way too outside of Chicago to pick the channel up via Antenna. I'm on the very finge of their claimed viewing area. So fringe in fact that 2/3 markets can claim this area(the other is Peoria/Moline).
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 11:45 AM

Another thing to consider is that other carriers will be watching this closely. If tribune gets away with something here, they will go after other Sat, Cable, Phone, etc. carriers and do the same thing.

I hope DirecTV holds ground.

Most cable systems have experienced some type of extortion intransigence in negotiations from one media company or another in recent years.

As a Dish subscriber and a long time advocate of prohibiting retransmission fees for local OTA broadcast channels, I hope that DirecTV holds out.

When News Corps' Fox successfully said to affiliates last year it'll be $1 per subscriber per month from each of you and dumped any affiliate that refused, we all knew that we'd soon be paying an additional $5 per month within five years unless the "retransmitters" held their ground.

I'm still of the opinion that if we're going to pay that much, national networks should simply become cable channels and leave the locals to sink or swim individually based on what they can offer that would attract subscribers. The whole 1958 broadcast network model is so out of date.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:00 PM

I thought the FCC passed a regulation that during negotiations the viewers could not be held hostage by forcing the provider to drop the channel. This totally sucks always being in the middle of the negotiation. There is a must-carry rule for cable, why doesn't that must-carry rule apply to DirecTV too!

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:00 PM

I live way too outside of Chicago to pick the channel up via Antenna. I'm on the very finge of their claimed viewing area. So fringe in fact that 2/3 markets can claim this area(the other is Peoria/Moline).


In your case you are outside the OTA range. You should get the alternative 390-399 channels.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:06 PM

Guess I won't be upgrading my HR20 to an HR34 any time soon then.


Just get an AM21 or AM21N and you'll have the same setup but with 5 tuners and a 1TB HD!:D

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:07 PM

I haven't slept in 2 weeks worrying about losing my Tribune channels.

As of 9:20 EDT tonight, I can breathe easier, knowing all is indeed well.


????????? Oh the horror!

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:09 PM

I no longer have Direct but sympathize with what they are doing. Enough already with these networks continuing to raise fees for something that is free. Congress needs to redo all this mess they created. Fortunately, I live near Chicago and have an outstanding OTA, so whatever service I would have would make a no difference to me if they dropped locals. My OTA provides the best HD PQ and if I'm not channel surfing I usually watch network programs OTA most of the time.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:12 PM

I thought the FCC passed a regulation that during negotiations the viewers could not be held hostage by forcing the provider to drop the channel. This totally sucks always being in the middle of the negotiation. There is a must-carry rule for cable, why doesn't that must-carry rule apply to DirecTV too!


The TV station has the choice of Must carry, or Fee based. If they choose Must carry, they cannot demand retrans fees. Most if not all Network stations do not claim Must carry, that is usually used by independents and religious broadcasters.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:20 PM

WGN HD is gone.
Q13 Fox HD and JoeTv HD Seattle went down @12:00 AM.
Q13 Fox SD and JoeTv SD Seattle went down @12:16 AM.


No big deal, watch sometimg else!

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:20 PM

I thought the FCC passed a regulation that during negotiations the viewers could not be held hostage by forcing the provider to drop the channel. This totally sucks always being in the middle of the negotiation. There is a must-carry rule for cable, why doesn't that must-carry rule apply to DirecTV too!


As I understand it, the FCC rule you're talking about is not retroactive, meaning carriage deals signed prior to the rule going into effect can still expire and lead to the channels being withheld. Deals signed after the rule went into effect would be covered. This question came up in the discussion back when Fox's deal was up for renewal back in October.

As for must-carry, that only applies if the station requests that status. Most stations nowadays don't do this because must-carry keeps them from receiving any retrans fees from the providers.




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