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Fox going to start an ESPN rival?


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#1 OFFLINE   RAD

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 03:36 PM

See http://www.bloomberg...rival-espn.html

Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. (NWSA) is taking steps to start a national U.S. sports network on cable television aimed at challenging Walt Disney Co. (DIS)’s ESPN, according to people with knowledge of the situation.
News Corp. is assembling the required rights from pay-TV carriers and sports organizations, said the people, who requested anonymity because talks are private. While a final decision to move forward hasn’t been made, the company is considering converting its Fuel action-sports network to the new channel, two of the people said.


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Posted 28 March 2012 - 03:56 PM

I think it was only a matter of time. ABC has all the ESPN channels, CBS has CBS Sports channels, NBC has NBC Sports (formerly Versus) and Universal Sports, Fox is the only one that doesn't have a true nationwide sports network (excluding Fox Soccer which I consider a different case).
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 03:59 PM

No channel will rival ESPN anytime soon. It will take decades for a channel to overtake ESPN and I doubt that will ever happen.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 04:02 PM

See http://www.bloomberg...rival-espn.html



So the folks that hate the mouse can now also hate Fox. Either way probably higher rates for us.


but what sports will they put on it?

NASCAR? wait that is on the fox owned speed.

MLB??? TNT/TBS, espn has some rights and fox only has OTA rights.

NBA when the deal in place now is up?
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 04:21 PM

Can only hope they get the NHRA rights and give it something other than the 3rd world/red headed step child treatment that ESPN has always given it.

Though here again other networks such as MAVTV or even FOX's own NASCAR...err I mean SPEED channel are already aligned more towards this genre.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 04:33 PM

Oh good, ANOTHER Sports channel I have 0 interest in but will probably have to pay an extra $3 a month for anyway!

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 04:38 PM

but what sports will they put on it?

NASCAR? wait that is on the fox owned speed.

MLB??? TNT/TBS, espn has some rights and fox only has OTA rights.

NBA when the deal in place now is up?



I don't think the MLB or NBA deals are exclusive for cable. Fox has a ton of local rights to both that they may be able to parlay into some national rights.
As far as I know, the MLB national cable rights could be extended. And Fox has the cable rights to some MLB playoff games. The NBA playoff games are tied up with TNT/TBS/ESPN/ABC...

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 04:58 PM

They would be idiots to do this, they would be competing with themselves in the form of all their local FSNs. Plus I remember they already tried making a pseudo-national FSN by turning all their local FSNs into clones of each other and they gave it up for the most part after a while when it wasn't working.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:25 PM

Maybe Fox Sports is looking to consolidate all its national shows so all the teams within the FSN landscape could have greater control of their RSNs as trended with recent deals.

I'd love to see BDSSP come back.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

hope they their own version of sportscenter. Also if they just play soccer i think only 10% of the country will tune in...so they better get some mlb games and take some nascar and put it on there.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:13 PM

I doubt this. Providers are getting tired of paying Fox an arm and a leg. No chance this gets on Directv anytime soon.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:15 PM

I doubt this. Providers are getting tired of paying Fox an arm and a leg. No chance this gets on Directv anytime soon.


I agree. I dont see any provider jumping up and down to add anything else FOX.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:19 PM

I hope it happens. It means more "world" sports will be aired to fill time and that is a major plus for me! Maybe we'll finally get some Cricket without having to pay an arm and a leg!
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 09:12 PM

Honestly, I always though with the eyes that YES gets (number 1 regional sports network in the country) and the money behind YES, YES could have moved beyond Yankees and Nets coverage to provide general interest sports news and could have given the main ESPN channel a run.

ESPN is not just one channel, though, so if Fox wants to rival ESPN that's a tall order ...

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 10:13 PM

If they play their cards right and get more agressive than CBS and even NBC, and really don't mind settling for #2 (for now) they could do it. There are many sports fans over 30 that tire easy of the Punk family of channels with annoying crawls at the bottom.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:50 AM

I welcome it. I hope it is successful. ESPN is old and stale.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:22 AM

Combine Fox Soccer, Soccer Plus, all the SkySports stuff, and they would have more than enough to run 24-7 with all live global sports.

Sure, it would have some niche sports with rabid fan bases (rugby, cricket, etc.) to start, but that would still be better then what ESPN Classic or Universal Sports have.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:29 AM

No channel will rival ESPN anytime soon. It will take decades for a channel to overtake ESPN and I doubt that will ever happen.


Never say never!

Some 25 years ago, people were saying that this start-up network called Fox would ever be a challenge to the big 3 and yet they are.

Some 15 years ago, people were saying that Fox News could never compete against the likes of CNN and yet it has been the most watched cable news channel for how many years now?

Fox has big pockets and the know-how so while they may not be be a challenge out of the gate, I doubt it will be long before they pose a real challenge to ESPN.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:34 AM

I doubt this. Providers are getting tired of paying Fox an arm and a leg. No chance this gets on Directv anytime soon.


I agree. I dont see any provider jumping up and down to add anything else FOX.


Fox has the know-how to get their channel added and I believe providers will be standing in line to get on board and yes, that includes DirecTV.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:47 AM

Fox has big pockets and the know-how so while they may not be be a challenge out of the gate, I doubt it will be long before they pose a real challenge to ESPN.

ESPN has MLB until 2017 and NFL until 2020. ESPN has SEC Network for like 20 years. They have the ACC locked up pretty tight. NBA and NHL? Who knows how long.

ESPN won't be like broadcast or CNN when Rupert took them on. Content is limited in sports and ESPN controls the really good stuff.




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