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ASK DBSTALK: When is 921 Version L1.44 (L1.45?) coming?

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#41 OFFLINE   rudolpht



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Posted 15 January 2004 - 04:04 PM

To bad Dish does not offer an option, like many computer software companies, to download a beta version of their software, with no Technical Support

What's different than what we have other than the bug discovery is more consistent???

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Posted 15 January 2004 - 09:53 PM

I am curious, are the HDNet movies, even older ones shown in HD? By that I mean are they equivalent to sitting in a theatre and watching the movie on film through an HD lens? Does this make sense?

All HDNET movies are High def. Also all shows such as Hogans Heros and Charlie's Angels. They have the pictures rescaned for the file in Highdef. For the movies they are in orignal aspect ratio. For the old TV shows they remat them to 16x9 if necessary.

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 05:46 AM

If DBS stopped doing local channels and dumped the OTA features off the 921, I wouldn't miss it one bit. But that is just me.

Amen. Local channels have destroyed Dish quality and pushed many to watching HD only. If Dish ever starts watering down HD quality then I am permanently gone from the satellite scene.

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Posted 16 January 2004 - 10:38 AM

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#45 OFFLINE   Rodney



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Posted 16 January 2004 - 01:22 PM

If the beta release is experiencing any problems, and assuming the OTA fix did not create those problems, it sure would be nice if Dish would expeditiously release the OTA fix and resolve the other problems in a later update.

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 03:44 AM

The way things are going, I predict that the incompetant software developers (working on this for over a year) will remain in constant conflict with the beta testers. This will keep the distribution of 921's down to a tiny trickle until DirecTV releases the HDTIVO end of March (D*'s announced release). At that time Charlie will blow his stack at the developers and put the release of full current inventory for sale, then begin to fire and hire until they get the system working on the fundamental operations. He has to lock in the DVR potential customers or lose them to D*.

I suspect that the only salvation for the 921 will be if E* can do a mass release a minimum of 30 days prior to the HDTIVO. If they wait until after the fact, then only two things will rectify their blunder on software incompetance. It will be either a drastically reduced price as compared to the HDTIVO or if E* adds a whole new lineup of new HD channels.

Compared to the HDTIVO-
To be released enmass on March 31st, off the shelf at all D* dealers.
To be full beta proven version, ie no consumer beta program for several months.
(This is what the reps at DirecTV stated consistently all 4 days of the CES show)

A gut feeling on my part- Considering the confidence level of the direcTV people on the ready status of the HDTIVO I would not be surprised if they release the HDTIVO a month early just to smack E* in the face by surprise. That move would be devastating to E* 921 sales and subscribers.

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 08:39 AM

E* has to turn on DishWire. This is their only positive differentiator from HDTiVo (only one OTA tuner is a negative differentiator, as are the bugs).
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Posted 17 January 2004 - 08:48 AM

E* has to turn on DishWire. This is their only positive differentiator from HDTiVo (only one OTA tuner is a negative differentiator, as are the bugs).


I think from another thread I am following that E* is close to turing on the Firewire for DVHS us only very soon. Stay tuned for more info soon...
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Posted 17 January 2004 - 08:54 AM

Well I don't know if they will be fixing the problems in time. Look at all the screwed up new receivers and problems since last quarter. Nothing they have released in the new line has worked well. The 811 has to dark an image on the output. The 921 has ota tuner problems, among other things. The new 522 doesn't work like it was suppossed to with the single mode pip. None of the hd receivers have been released in good quantities in time for the X-mas season and now not in time for the Super Bowl . Something is definately going wrong with this batch of receivers. You would think they could have these receivers all working like advertised since they have been talking about them since last CES show in 03. Charlie is definately screwing up any advantage he had over Directv and Rupert.

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 11:37 AM

You also have to take into account that the 921 is really new technology. Yes they have had some practice on the 721 with dual tuners, but now they have gone to 3 tuners (OTA+2DBS). You can expect problems here.

Where I see the main screw up of Dish is with the 811. This should be a simple box, a small upgrade from the 6000. The problems could be the result of cost cutting gone wild, i.e. they tried to cut the cost of the 6000 down to the point that they could practically give them away. Cheap components giving them manufacturing problems and quality control issues, making some of them give a really dark picture, and not getting the needed yield to meet demand.

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 04:27 PM

My 921 rebooted itself twice today and than locked up solid after the second time. I called advanced support and they logged the issue (possibly they were sending one of thier daily updates?) any way he told me 1.44 (not 1.43) would be released in a few days.

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 04:34 PM

sgt940, if you can reproduce the steps that you went through before your 921 rebooted, please post them as a bug report in the 921 forum so the developers will see it.
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#53 OFFLINE   denier


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Posted 22 January 2004 - 02:39 AM

my local retailer just told me the new software release is coming this friday jan 23.
can anyone confirm this??

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Posted 23 January 2004 - 01:08 PM

Well, can anyone out there confirm the SW version 1.44 or 1.45 has been released???

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Posted 23 January 2004 - 01:19 PM

Yes L1.45 has been released. Do a search for L1.45 and you'll find a number of threads about it already.
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Posted 23 January 2004 - 02:40 PM

I would guess version 1.45 is solving a lot of problems. Does this foreshadow a mass release of 921s in the VERY near future?

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Posted 23 January 2004 - 03:44 PM

Scott G reported that you have to reboot after download to get the OTA upgrade to work properly

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Posted 26 January 2004 - 03:55 PM

So I asked back on page #1 of this thread if there was anything worth watching in HD. I stand by my belief that the HD package is completely overpriced at $9.99 for 4 channels. The price should be lowered to $4.99, or more channels should be added without a price increase.

ESPNHD is a joke; most of the time it runs SD programming horribly stretched to 16:9 as its "HD content". Considering how infrequently actual HD content is shown on the channel, and how poor the channel looks with the stretch applied, this channel really ought to be free if you already are getting ESPN.

The other channels? I would accept a few commercials here and there, particularly between programs, if we could get the price down a little. Right now one pays a premium in the hope that someday there will be additional HD content; there may be at some point, but sadly one may have to pay even more to get it. Shouldn't these be part of the Top 150 or America's Everything Package, besides?

... In any case, back to the topic at hand. Now that L145 is out, any thoughts on what Dish is planning for the next set of software fixes and next target date for a software release? There are certainly plenty more bugs to be squashed!

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