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DIRECTV Domestic & LatinAm Transponder Maps: New Data 6/27/2012


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#76 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 06:26 PM

Attached is a small Excel of the D5 channels as of today, 6/18/12. Once again, thanks to Doctor J!

This is not the CONUS D5 of the past. And not the D5 providing LIL SD 'Ad Push' channels of a couple of weeks ago.

Welcome to heavy duty testing to Puerto Rico.

EDIT: 6/20/12 -
The attachment is deleted. See the current TPN Map for current data!

Edited by gct, 20 June 2012 - 05:24 PM.



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Posted 20 June 2012 - 11:21 AM

Very sharp eyes there, HoTat2. I am very much impressed! Actually, I am having trouble keeping up with D5's gyrations:

Last week, D5 transitioned from a previously CONUS bird, to one which was providing about a half-dozen 'Ad Addressable' SD channels into Local Market #113 - the Los Angeles DMA. Hence the change in the Network Decoder.

This week, D5 is providing about 23 test channels to Puerto Rico. I guess those are still 'spot' beams so the Network Decoder is still close to correct.

Attached is an little Excel of D5 channels for this week. Not all these channels made it into yesterday's TPN Map, only because there were some technical issues with D5 PIDs that did not get resolved until late yesterday evening.

A bigger view of what is going on with DIRECTV and DIRECTV-Panamericana is a whole giant topic all its own. Examples - Puerto Rico has been told that while they now have 14 HD channels, they will have 30 by year end. Puerto Rico is supposedly to become a part of the Domestic Network - obviously to free up resources on G3C. DIRECTV-Latin America (DLA) is a gigantic market -- with gigantic revenues and gigantic growth. But this is a whole 'nother topic....


So gct, to try and gain some understanding of what might be going on here with D5. As a best guess for now anyways, are we looking at a potential move of Puerto Rico's programming from DIRECTV Latin America to DIRECTV USA on D5?

That there could eventually be no more "Beam PR" (GLA-2) channels that are at present formally part of DLA to serve Puerto Rico and the Caribbean from the G3C bird?

And with the future D14 destined to supply LiLs and re-directed HD nationals through Ka-band spotbeams to PR and the Caribbean ala the way Hawaii is served, what does that mean for the required subscriber equipment in those locations?

A big replacement program of MPEG-4 receivers and new type of ODU for 99, 101, 103, and 110? Or perhaps the 1.2m AL-Hi dish pair for those areas?


I also notice that D5's posted interactive beam map appears to have a spotbeam for PR and the Caribbean that would make it suitable for serving that region. But I can find no mention of this in any satellite specs. I can find listed for either DIRECTV-5 or its former name "Tempo 1."

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 02:18 PM

New HD CONUS Channels in *TEST
None - No New HD Channels in *TEST

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New HD-DMA Activity
TWO NEW HD MARKETS MOVED FROM *TEST TO ACTIVE


Market 62, Network 573, Eugene, OR

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
62|573|KEZI|9|A3 Eugene 09 KEZI ABC
62|573|KVAL|13|A3 Eugene 13 KVAL CBS
62|573|KMTR|16|A3 Eugene 16 KMTR NBC
62|573|KEPB|28|A3 Eugene 28 KEPB PBS
62|573|KLSR|34|A3 Eugene 34 KLSR FOX




Market 120, Network 631, Alturas, CA –- Medford-Klamath Falls, OR

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
120|631|KOBI|5|A3 Medford 05 KOBI NBC
120|631|KSYS|8|A3 Medford 08 KSYS PBS
120|631|KTVL|10|A3 Medford 10 KTVL CBS
120|631|KDRV|12|A3 Medford 12 KDRV ABC
120|631|KMVU|26|A3 Medford 26 KMVU FOX


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New HD LIL Channels in *TEST
None – No New HD LIL Channels in Test Status

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New SD LIL Channels in *TEST

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
147|658|*WMGM|40|Philadelphia, PA


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New HD LIL Channels Moved from *TEST To Active

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
67|578|WBSF|14|Flint-Saginaw-Bay City, MI


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HD LIL Channels Deleted, No Longer Active
None – No HD LIL Channels Removed From Service

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SEE THE “LIL” TAB in THE TPN MAP EXCEL FOR COMPLETE DETAILS ON THESE AND ALL OTHER CHANNELS

Edited by gct, 20 June 2012 - 08:27 PM.



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Posted 20 June 2012 - 03:42 PM

After the two HD Local DMAs Activated Today,
here is an overview of DIRECTV Local-Into-Local Service

(this is from the LIL Market tab of the TPN Map Excel)


|# DMAs|% of DMAs|Population|% of US
DMA Has HD Locals|183|87.1%|111,931,420|97.6%
DMA Has SD Locals Only|11|5.2%|1,980,150|1.7%
DMA Has No Local Service|16|7.6%|737,740|0.6%
TOTAL US DMAs|210||114,649,310|



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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:43 PM

....That there could eventually be no more "Beam PR" (GLA-2) channels that are at present formally part of DLA to serve Puerto Rico and the Caribbean from the G3C bird?


One guess at a time - and I dearly invite any DLA folks to chime in -

I would guess that D5 will supplement the existing GLA net. The promised, "... 15 more HD channels by year end." for PR gobbles up all the resources that D5 has to give. And that assumes we will soon see MPEG4 testing on D5.

Oddly enough, we are seeing 5 MPEG4 test channels on D7S recently. Maybe D7S plays into the DTV Latinamericana scheme.


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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:54 PM

...and with the future D14 destined to supply LiLs and re-directed HD nationals through Ka-band spotbeams to PR and the Caribbean ala the way Hawaii is served, what does that mean for the required subscriber equipment in those locations?

A big replacement program of MPEG-4 receivers and new type of ODU for 99, 101, 103, and 110? Or perhaps the 1.2m AL-Hi dish pair for those areas?


More guessing:
I don't think any big hardware changes are planned or necessary.

Reason 1: they are six months away from the promise of doubled HD programming, and not even a whisper of any equipment changes has been made.

Reason 2: remember the Latin folks have their own hardware lineup -- they have a LHR-22 receiver, for example. DLA (DIRECTV Latin America) has had lots of time to get the embedded HD receiver base positioned properly. And like the US several years ago, HD is a new kid on the block; the growth boom will be triggered when they reach a critical mass of HD programming.

Edited by gct, 21 June 2012 - 12:41 PM.



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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:03 PM

....are we looking at a potential move of Puerto Rico's programming from DIRECTV Latin America to DIRECTV USA on D5?


We are looking at an 'already announced' move of Puerto Rico's programming from DLA resources to DTV-US resources.

How they plan to accomplish this is open for all of us to guess. D5 has become an apparent player in all of this, but D5 by itself is just a small player in what will become a some very big changes.


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Posted 21 June 2012 - 03:50 AM

A couple comments Gary:


Latam use a LHR22 no an 24 and Although I think as you do that the D5 is going to play an important part on what is happening with PR I think that the complement for this will be DTV-14

Another thing I don't think that the channel from Beam PR on G3C will leave as must people on Latam doesn't have coverage by this beam. Beside a lot of PR programming is on Spanish and as DTV use everywhere sport to get clients in PR they use Spanish channel as Dish can't offer that properly.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 05:19 AM

A couple comments Gary:


Latam use a LHR22 no an 24 and Although I think as you do that the D5 is going to play an important part on what is happening with PR I think that the complement for this will be DTV-14

Another thing I don't think that the channel from Beam PR on G3C will leave as must people on Latam doesn't have coverage by this beam. Beside a lot of PR programming is on Spanish and as DTV use everywhere sport to get clients in PR they use Spanish channel as Dish can't offer that properly.


Hi egakagoc2xi;

Allow me help you a bit with the grammar here, and then you can confirm whether or not I'm reading you correctly.

Are you essentially saying?

A few comments gct:

In Latin America they use the LHR22, not the 24. And although I feel as you do that D5 is going to play an important role in what's happening with Puerto Rico, I think the complement for this will be resources on the future D14 satellite as well.

Additionally, I don't think the channels from Beam PR on G3C will leave since this beam covers most of the population in Latin America. Besides a lot of PR programming is in Spanish. And much as DIRECTV uses sports to gain clients everywhere, they use Spanish channels in Puerto Rico in a similar way to attract customers since Dish Network can't offer them there properly.


Edited by HoTat2, 21 June 2012 - 05:30 AM.


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Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:19 AM

Hi egakagoc2xi;

Allow me help you a bit with the grammar here, and then you can confirm whether or not I'm reading you correctly.

Are you essentially saying?


Pretty much, but the beam PR doesn't cover much of Latam in fact I can't see it

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:26 AM

Pretty much, but the beam PR doesn't cover much of Latam in fact I can't see it


OK;

So you meant to say in that part of your statement that you don't think Beam PR will leave G3C since that beam does not cover most of Latin America?

I'm not sure I understand the connection. Why does Beam PR's lack of coverage over Latin America cause you to think it won't eventually leave the G3C satellite in the future?

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:44 AM

OK;

So you meant to say in that part of your statement that you don't think Beam PR will leave G3C since that beam does not cover most of Latin America?

I'm not sure I understand the connection. Why does Beam PR's lack of coverage over Latin America cause you to think it won't eventually leave the G3C satellite in the future?


Right now DTV PR has 14 HD channels and 11 SD channel on that beam. If they remove those channels then they will lose that space since the rest of Latam won't be able to use it.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:46 AM

Guys you must remember DLA-1 and DLA-2 for 2014 and 2015 I don't know of those satellite will cover PR and G3C active live ends on 2017

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:56 AM

Right now DTV PR has 14 HD channels and 11 SD channel on that beam. If they remove those channels then they will lose that space since the rest of Latam won't be able to use it.


Ah, I've got you now;

You'll have to pardon me, slowing down in my middle age here ... :)

What you're saying is that if Beam PR is removed, then its spectrum will pretty much go to waste then, since most of DLA outside of Puerto Rico can't receive the beam anyway.

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 11:04 AM

Ah, I've got you now;

You'll have to pardon me, slowing down in my middle age here ... :)

What you're saying is that if Beam PR is removed, then its spectrum will pretty much go to waste then, since most of DLA outside of Puerto Rico can't receive the beam anyway.


Correct

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 09:38 PM

New HD CONUS Channels in *TEST Status
None - No New HD CONUS Channels in *TEST



New HD-MARKET Activity
None - No New HD-MARKETS In *TEST



New HD LIL Channels in *TEST Status


MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
73|584|*WCJB|21|Gainesville, FL
147|658|*WWSI|62|Philadelphia, PA
147|658|*WFMZ|69|Philadellphia, PA
147|658|*WMCN|44|Philadellphia, PA
169|680|*KSTS|48|San Francisco, CA




New HD LIL Channels Moved from *TEST To Active


MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
25|536|WGBH|2|A3 Boston 02 WGBH PBS
25|536|WGBX|44|SAP CBS Boston, MA
25|536|WENH|11|SAP Boston, MA
176|687|MNT|12|MNT Sioux Falls, SD



HD LIL Channels Deleted, No Longer Active
None – No HD LIL Channels Removed From Service



NEW SD LIL ChannelS IN *TEST Status
MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
55|566|*KDMI|56|Des Moines, IA




SEE THE “LIL” TAB in THE TPN MAP EXCEL FOR COMPLETE DETAILS ON THESE AND ALL OTHER CHANNELS


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

Closing this thread, covering 2Q/2012. Please see the new thread for TPN Map data for the Third Quarter, 2012.





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