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DIRECTV Domestic & LatinAm Transponder Maps: New Data 6/27/2012


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#61 OFFLINE   Gary Toma

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 06:21 PM

Something like session/internal or fake or phantom network# ... The net#150 is not in current system tables for sure.


On the theory that '150' might be an phantom for DOD access or MRV, I disconnected the IP cable from a unit, then rebooted the unit with no internet connectivity. The '150' still remained.

Maybe it is a network that is forthcoming - the Receivers are being prepared to have it fired up. We'll see.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 12:52 PM

New HD CONUS Channels in *TEST Status
None - No New HD CONUS Channels in *TEST



New HD-DMA Activity
None - No New HD-DMA Activity

DMAs Continuing in *TEST Status:

Eugene, OR
Medford-Klamath Falls, OR




New HD LIL Channels in *TEST Status

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
25|536|*WNEU|60|A3 Boston 60 WNEU TMO
39|550|*WSNS|44|Chicago, IL
51|562|*KXTX|39|Dallas, TX
54|565|*KDEN|25|A3 Denver 25 KDEN TMO (D10)
54|565|*KDEN|25|A3 Denver 25 KDEN TMO (D11)
67|578|*WBSF|14|Flint, MI
83|594|*KNVO|48|Harlingen-Weslaco-Brownsville-McAllen, TX
83|594|*KTLM|40|Harlingen-Weslaco-Brownsville-McAllen, TX
90|601|*KTMD|47|A3 Houston 47 KTMD TMO
108|619|*KBLR|39|Las Vegas, NV
108|619|*KINC|15|Las Vegas, NV
113|624|*KVEA|52|Los Angeles, CA
123|634|*WSCV|51|Miami, FL
128|639|*WFGX|35|Mobile, AL – Pensacola, FL
134|645|*WLNY|55|New York, NY
134|645|*WNJU|47|New York, NY




New HD LIL Channels Moved from *TEST To Active

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
115|626|KJTV|34|Lubbock, TX
115|626|KLCW|22|Lubbock, TX
198|709|KAGS|23|A3 Waco 23 KAGS NBC




HD LIL Channels Deleted, No Longer Active
None – No HD LIL Channels Removed From Service



SD LIL Channel Changes

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
62|573|*KTVC|36|Eugene, OR
195|706|CW|55|Tyler-Longview, TX




SEE THE “LIL” TAB in THE TPN MAP EXCEL FOR COMPLETE DETAILS ON THESE AND ALL OTHER CHANNELS

Edited by gct, 14 June 2012 - 05:05 PM.



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Posted 14 June 2012 - 03:55 PM

Running late --

Sorry to be running late. Just uploaded the new 6/13/12 TPN Map.

Thanks once again to Doctor J!!


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Posted 14 June 2012 - 05:32 PM


MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
134|645|*WLNY|55|New York, NY
134|645|*WNJU|47|New York, NY

I'm honestly surprised that DIRECTV is carry TV-55 (WLNY) in HD this quickly. CBS bought the channel only a couple of months ago and converted from SD to HD and here DIRECTV is already testing it!

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:12 PM

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
113|624|*KVEA|52|Los Angeles, CA



Well ... while of no use to me. Spanish local KVEA-DT 52 HD (TMO) coming to the L.A. market. But good for those spanish speaking among us here and will bring to 12 the total number of HD locals carried by DIRECTV in this market.

According to the spreadsheet I suppose it will use spotbeam A4BB (Antenna 4 Beam 11) Tp. 22 from D10 or 12. I guess its no wonder Tp. 22 has been lit up at 100 on my 103(s) signal strength screen for the past few months in addition to the regular Tps. 19 and 21.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:27 PM

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
54|565|*KDEN|25|A3 Denver 25 KDEN TMO (D10)
54|565|*KDEN|25|A3 Denver 25 KDEN TMO (D11)



Odd duplication of one local station on two test channels on two different satellites? :confused:

And boy, sure seems DIRECTV has struck a deal to carry a group of Telemundo (TMO) affiliate stations here.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:31 PM

Odd duplication of one local station on two test channels on two different satellites? :confused:

And boy, sure seems DIRECTV has struck a deal to carry a group of Telemundo (TMO) affiliate stations here.



HoTat2,

I believe the Denver DMA is gigantic in terms of geography covered. It may be that they need two beams to cover the entire DMA.

It would be some interesting homework!


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Posted 15 June 2012 - 01:11 AM

HoTat2,

I believe the Denver DMA is gigantic in terms of geography covered. It may be that they need two beams to cover the entire DMA.

It would be some interesting homework!


Yeah it could be;

Never seen that before though.

Anyhow gct, on another topic I notice on the Network Decoder tab of this latest map you now have D5 at 110w (Network 2) in the pink color for spotbeams and labeled for "MPEG2 SD LIL"

When did the CONUS beamed D5 become a spotbeam bird for SD LiLs? ;)

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:31 AM

Odd duplication of one local station on two test channels on two different satellites? :confused:

And boy, sure seems DIRECTV has struck a deal to carry a group of Telemundo (TMO) affiliate stations here.


I think it's the size of the Denver DMA.
ALL of Denver's HD channels are duplicates on D-11 and D-10/12 and have been for years.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:37 AM

Yeah it could be;

Never seen that before though.

Anyhow gct, on another topic I notice on the Network Decoder tab of this latest map you now have D5 at 110w (Network 2) in the pink color for spotbeams and labeled for "MPEG2 SD LIL"

When did the CONUS beamed D5 become a spotbeam bird for SD LiLs? ;)


SAT 110 is doing strange things right now .
Very little activity but the guide info pid on TPN 12 which had been dark for many weeks shows up this week on TPN 10. Our sorting is not fully "right" yet.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:43 AM

HoTat2,

I believe the Denver DMA is gigantic in terms of geography covered. It may be that they need two beams to cover the entire DMA.

It would be some interesting homework!


Remember my review of the D-10/12 and D-11 Spotbeams of last year??

We have exact data on D-10/12. A few D-11 beams suggest D-11 beams of same designation shifted UP and RIGHT ie: NorthEast by 150 to 200 miles.
Thus the same beam ,simultaneously from D-10 and D-11 covers almost double the area in a SW to NE axis.

Doctor j

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 08:04 AM

I think it's the size of the Denver DMA.
ALL of Denver's HD channels are duplicates on D-11 and D-10/12 and have been for years.

Doctor j


Good grief ... hadn't even noticed that about the Denver, CO. market up till now.

Thanks Dr. j, my bad :imwith:

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 12:20 PM

Yeah it could be;

...Anyhow gct, on another topic I notice on the Network Decoder tab of this latest map you now have D5 at 110w (Network 2) in the pink color for spotbeams and labeled for "MPEG2 SD LIL"

When did the CONUS beamed D5 become a spotbeam bird for SD LiLs? ;)


Very sharp eyes there, HoTat2. I am very much impressed! Actually, I am having trouble keeping up with D5's gyrations:

Last week, D5 transitioned from a previously CONUS bird, to one which was providing about a half-dozen 'Ad Addressable' SD channels into Local Market #113 - the Los Angeles DMA. Hence the change in the Network Decoder.

This week, D5 is providing about 23 test channels to Puerto Rico. I guess those are still 'spot' beams so the Network Decoder is still close to correct.

Attached is an little Excel of D5 channels for this week. Not all these channels made it into yesterday's TPN Map, only because there were some technical issues with D5 PIDs that did not get resolved until late yesterday evening.

A bigger view of what is going on with DIRECTV and DIRECTV-Panamericana is a whole giant topic all its own. Examples - Puerto Rico has been told that while they now have 14 HD channels, they will have 30 by year end. Puerto Rico is supposedly to become a part of the Domestic Network - obviously to free up resources on G3C. DIRECTV-Latin America (DLA) is a gigantic market -- with gigantic revenues and gigantic growth. But this is a whole 'nother topic....


EDIT 6/20/12
The attachment is removed. Please see the current TPN Map for the most current D5 channel status.

Edited by gct, 20 June 2012 - 05:25 PM.



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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:02 PM

Every indication we have is that D5 is morphing into a very different animal. It is going to be very interesting to watch this play out.

Edited by gct, 15 June 2012 - 11:46 PM.



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Posted 18 June 2012 - 02:38 PM

Good grief ... hadn't even noticed that about the Denver, CO. market up till now.

Thanks Dr. j, my bad :imwith:


Don't worry. It's easier to "see" some of these things if you sort every HD-LIL channel (1473 now) by DMA Market, Satellite, +/or Transponder EVERY week.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 06:26 PM

Attached is a small Excel of the D5 channels as of today, 6/18/12. Once again, thanks to Doctor J!

This is not the CONUS D5 of the past. And not the D5 providing LIL SD 'Ad Push' channels of a couple of weeks ago.

Welcome to heavy duty testing to Puerto Rico.

EDIT: 6/20/12 -
The attachment is deleted. See the current TPN Map for current data!

Edited by gct, 20 June 2012 - 05:24 PM.



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Posted 20 June 2012 - 11:21 AM

Very sharp eyes there, HoTat2. I am very much impressed! Actually, I am having trouble keeping up with D5's gyrations:

Last week, D5 transitioned from a previously CONUS bird, to one which was providing about a half-dozen 'Ad Addressable' SD channels into Local Market #113 - the Los Angeles DMA. Hence the change in the Network Decoder.

This week, D5 is providing about 23 test channels to Puerto Rico. I guess those are still 'spot' beams so the Network Decoder is still close to correct.

Attached is an little Excel of D5 channels for this week. Not all these channels made it into yesterday's TPN Map, only because there were some technical issues with D5 PIDs that did not get resolved until late yesterday evening.

A bigger view of what is going on with DIRECTV and DIRECTV-Panamericana is a whole giant topic all its own. Examples - Puerto Rico has been told that while they now have 14 HD channels, they will have 30 by year end. Puerto Rico is supposedly to become a part of the Domestic Network - obviously to free up resources on G3C. DIRECTV-Latin America (DLA) is a gigantic market -- with gigantic revenues and gigantic growth. But this is a whole 'nother topic....


So gct, to try and gain some understanding of what might be going on here with D5. As a best guess for now anyways, are we looking at a potential move of Puerto Rico's programming from DIRECTV Latin America to DIRECTV USA on D5?

That there could eventually be no more "Beam PR" (GLA-2) channels that are at present formally part of DLA to serve Puerto Rico and the Caribbean from the G3C bird?

And with the future D14 destined to supply LiLs and re-directed HD nationals through Ka-band spotbeams to PR and the Caribbean ala the way Hawaii is served, what does that mean for the required subscriber equipment in those locations?

A big replacement program of MPEG-4 receivers and new type of ODU for 99, 101, 103, and 110? Or perhaps the 1.2m AL-Hi dish pair for those areas?


I also notice that D5's posted interactive beam map appears to have a spotbeam for PR and the Caribbean that would make it suitable for serving that region. But I can find no mention of this in any satellite specs. I can find listed for either DIRECTV-5 or its former name "Tempo 1."

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 02:18 PM

New HD CONUS Channels in *TEST
None - No New HD Channels in *TEST

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New HD-DMA Activity
TWO NEW HD MARKETS MOVED FROM *TEST TO ACTIVE


Market 62, Network 573, Eugene, OR

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
62|573|KEZI|9|A3 Eugene 09 KEZI ABC
62|573|KVAL|13|A3 Eugene 13 KVAL CBS
62|573|KMTR|16|A3 Eugene 16 KMTR NBC
62|573|KEPB|28|A3 Eugene 28 KEPB PBS
62|573|KLSR|34|A3 Eugene 34 KLSR FOX




Market 120, Network 631, Alturas, CA –- Medford-Klamath Falls, OR

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
120|631|KOBI|5|A3 Medford 05 KOBI NBC
120|631|KSYS|8|A3 Medford 08 KSYS PBS
120|631|KTVL|10|A3 Medford 10 KTVL CBS
120|631|KDRV|12|A3 Medford 12 KDRV ABC
120|631|KMVU|26|A3 Medford 26 KMVU FOX


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New HD LIL Channels in *TEST
None – No New HD LIL Channels in Test Status

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

New SD LIL Channels in *TEST

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
147|658|*WMGM|40|Philadelphia, PA


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New HD LIL Channels Moved from *TEST To Active

MKT|NET|NAME|CHL|NOTES
67|578|WBSF|14|Flint-Saginaw-Bay City, MI


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HD LIL Channels Deleted, No Longer Active
None – No HD LIL Channels Removed From Service

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

SEE THE “LIL” TAB in THE TPN MAP EXCEL FOR COMPLETE DETAILS ON THESE AND ALL OTHER CHANNELS

Edited by gct, 20 June 2012 - 08:27 PM.



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Posted 20 June 2012 - 03:42 PM

After the two HD Local DMAs Activated Today,
here is an overview of DIRECTV Local-Into-Local Service

(this is from the LIL Market tab of the TPN Map Excel)


|# DMAs|% of DMAs|Population|% of US
DMA Has HD Locals|183|87.1%|111,931,420|97.6%
DMA Has SD Locals Only|11|5.2%|1,980,150|1.7%
DMA Has No Local Service|16|7.6%|737,740|0.6%
TOTAL US DMAs|210||114,649,310|



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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:43 PM

....That there could eventually be no more "Beam PR" (GLA-2) channels that are at present formally part of DLA to serve Puerto Rico and the Caribbean from the G3C bird?


One guess at a time - and I dearly invite any DLA folks to chime in -

I would guess that D5 will supplement the existing GLA net. The promised, "... 15 more HD channels by year end." for PR gobbles up all the resources that D5 has to give. And that assumes we will soon see MPEG4 testing on D5.

Oddly enough, we are seeing 5 MPEG4 test channels on D7S recently. Maybe D7S plays into the DTV Latinamericana scheme.





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