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#1 OFFLINE   skaman74

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:28 PM

Why the heck is the tigers talk show blacked out even though I have the sports pack and EI. Also can I watch replays of games if I have the sports pack, say CSN California is replaying the royals @ As why is it blackout.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:42 PM

FS Detroit blacks out Tigers Weekly and Tigers Live for out of market viewers. There was a long thread about this last year too.

They put Tigers Live and Tigers Weekly clips on their website though.

http://www.foxsports...com/pages/video

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#3 OFFLINE   skaman74

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:47 PM

Can you send me a link of that thread.

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#4 OFFLINE   Coca Cola Kid

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:49 PM

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 03:51 PM

FYI this is becoming very common. Many regional sports networks (under instruction from the teams) black out much of the programming related to the local professional teams. MLB seems to be the worst. With EI you get the games, but everything else is at the whim of the team.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 04:28 PM

I've seen several MLB,NHL & NFL sports magazine shows blacked out.Pees me off to no end.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 04:48 PM

I've seen several MLB,NHL & NFL sports magazine shows blacked out.Pees me off to no end.


Just another reason why most if not all sports blackout rules are without doubt the most idiotic, ignorant, and most ill-uninformed TV rules on this earth.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:24 PM

Just another reason why most if not all sports blackout rules are without doubt the most idiotic, ignorant, and most ill-uninformed TV rules on this earth.


+1. Sports Pack is total ripoff unless you're a soccer fanatic who's fluent in Spanish.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:36 PM

+1. Sports Pack is total ripoff unless you're a soccer fanatic who's fluent in Spanish.


It depends what you want the sports pack for. I dont need 12+ FOX regional channels all showing the same thing.
I'm an Arizona State fan and FS Arizona does a good job showing their games..in the long run Im glad I have it.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:05 PM

FYI this is becoming very common. Many regional sports networks (under instruction from the teams) black out much of the programming related to the local professional teams. MLB seems to be the worst. With EI you get the games, but everything else is at the whim of the team.


I can't figure out why teams (and networks) want to do this. What makes this a good idea for the decision makers? Even if all the advertising in a show is local, what the benefit of excluding millions of potential viewers? It would be great to build brand presence if nothing else.

Baseball is by far the worst. The fact that they blackout games that were played 4 years ago 3000 miles away from me makes me want to throw remotes all around the rec room. :lol:

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:52 AM

The most egregious example I ever saw was that the funeral of Harmon Killebrew last year was blacked out on Fox Sports North.

I e-mailed some folks at MLB about it, but not surprisingly, I never received a reply and it apparently accomplished nothing.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:21 AM

I can't figure out why teams (and networks) want to do this. What makes this a good idea for the decision makers? Even if all the advertising in a show is local, what the benefit of excluding millions of potential viewers? It would be great to build brand presence if nothing else.


The only logical reason I can think of is that the stations selling the ad time don't want the advertisers paying a local rate and then giving them the potential for many more eyeballs. As to why they wouldn't just charge more for the ads, I have no idea... maybe the contracts are already set, or maybe they're just too lazy to calculate a realistic number of viewers without a blackout.

OK, maybe that's not as logical as I originally thought.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:39 PM

It about ads. Even if one FOX Sports channel is able to charge more because they will broadcast to more eyes, the other local FOX Sports will not and the ad buyers will want to pay less. It just protects each channels market from one another.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:45 PM

It about ads. Even if one FOX Sports channel is able to charge more because they will broadcast to more eyes, the other local FOX Sports will not and the ad buyers will want to pay less. It just protects each channels market from one another.


Me wanting to watch Tigers Weekly because I'm a Tigers fan but being blacked out is not going to lead to me watching Cardinals Weekly because I live in Cardinals territory. Same principle for Fox Saturday Baseball. Whoever is paying more money for regional exclusivity is just screwing themselves over.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:22 PM

Why the heck is the tigers talk show blacked out even though I have the sports pack and EI. Also can I watch replays of games if I have the sports pack, say CSN California is replaying the royals @ As why is it blackout.


Copyright issues. MLB owns the copyright to all baseball game films and videotapes. They charge by the audience size for usage. Most RSNs do not want to pay the charge for a national feed of MLB-copyrighted content. If the MLB-copyrighted content rises above a certain percentage of show content, they either have to pay or black it out in the non-home area.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:30 PM

Copyright issues. MLB owns the copyright to all baseball game films and videotapes. They charge by the audience size for usage. Most RSNs do not want to pay the charge for a national feed of MLB-copyrighted content. If the MLB-copyrighted content rises above a certain percentage of show content, they either have to pay or black it out in the non-home area.


Thanks for the clarification. It's very clear MLB wants it's audience, future pool of potential players, and the sport in general to fade away.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:31 PM

Thanks for the clarification. It's very clear MLB wants it's audience, future pool of potential players, and the sport in general to fade away.


Faded away for me 2 years ago. I just got tired of blackouts and quit subscribing.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:37 PM

Faded away for me 2 years ago. I just got tired of blackouts and quit subscribing.


MLB is the worst online at removing content also. It's not just about this.




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