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#21 OFFLINE   HoTat2

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:47 AM

Good point! We who want TCM, BBCA, DIY, etc., do not necessarily fit the profile of the typical Directv customer. As Satelliteracer has pointed out there is more coming. However, until D14 shows up bandwidth will continue to be somewhat scarce and Directv needs to be somewhat selective in what they add, irrespective of any negotiation difficulties with the individual channels.


But starting with truTV HD and now the upcoming E! HD, if DIRECTV is going to make this their new standard of loading six HD channels per Ka-band transponder instead of 5, won't that make for a fair amount of new available channel space for national HD on D10, 11, and 12 even before D14 is launched?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:30 AM

Does it make a difference on the type of content that a HD channel displays on wheter or not it is a good candidiate to load a transponder with 6HD channels instead of 5? For example, E! HD might not be as intensive and take up less bandwith as a channel with lots of motion like ESPN. Or do they use the same bandwith regarless?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:32 AM

But starting with truTV HD and now the upcoming E! HD, if DIRECTV is going to make this their new standard of loading six HD channels per Ka-band transponder instead of 5, won't that make for a fair amount of new available channel space for national HD on D10, 11, and 12 even before D14 is launched?


hope so but also hope pq doesn't erode either.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:44 AM

You've also got to look at what else is on the transponder, like where TruTV is. We're not exactly talking about one like TPN11 on D10 or something.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:10 AM

oh boy, more trashy celebrity gossip now in HD, thanks D*!

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:07 PM

And I continue to wait for BBC HD...

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

I do not know if there is any truth to this, but I read elsewhere, that the reason that DirecTV is adding E! HD is that NBCUniversal has required them to add it in order to be able to broadcast all of their Olympic coverage. Perhaps some of you might know if there is any validity to that.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:44 PM

Why does DTV always pick channels that aren't that popular? E, Tru TV, what about TCM, TV Land, DIY, etc? I would even take QVC over Tru TV....


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:36 PM

Why does DTV always pick channels that aren't that popular? E, Tru TV, what about TCM, TV Land, DIY, etc? I would even take QVC over Tru TV....


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:44 PM

Why does DTV always pick channels that aren't that popular? E, Tru TV, what about TCM, TV Land, DIY, etc? I would even take QVC over Tru TV....


They add channels as deals are reached. At times, you have a parent company that owns multiple channels and the channels DirecTV doesn't carry won't get added (or considered) until that retrans deal is up for renegotiation.

It's about far more than potential revenue or popularity. Folks tend to dramatically oversimplify the process.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:47 PM

Companies modify contracts all the time without waiting for the existing contract to end.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:48 PM

+1


Which channels did they skip over and not launch that are so much more popular? Certainly not BBCA. Most certainly not TCM or Lifetime Movie Network.


Imagine when I woke up this morning to see DTV is adding another HD channel and the all the griping, bitching, complaining from those here about which channel they were launching. I was nearly knocked over by a feather from the shock.

All of the popular channels are already launched. We're into the weeds, the tier 2 and tier 3 channels right now. DTV has always known this and with limited bandwidth, you don't go crazy launching HD for stuff very few care about or watch.

E! was probably the correct next step based on ratings and subscribers (what base packages are penetrated). BBCA is much further down that list.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:48 PM

Companies modify contracts all the time without waiting for the existing contract to end.


Not if they aren't allowed to. That would be a breach of contract.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:51 PM

Companies modify contracts all the time without waiting for the existing contract to end.


Content and service providers? Not so much.
DTV = Digital Television

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:51 PM

Next Wednesday is not April 25. It's April 18.

I welcome all basic-cable channels in HD. (DirecTV has lots of catching up to do.)




And other providers have lots of catching up to do with DTV on HD Sports. That's why I have DTV, that's what I care about, not adding the dregs of channels in HD that a few others have but lack any of the sports I want.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:53 PM

Companies modify contracts all the time without waiting for the existing contract to end.


I believe you meant to use the word renegotiate in place of modify.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

I should have been more clear. I didn't mean for one side to unilaterally modify the contract (which would definitely void the contract). By "modify the contract" I meant when both companies agree to renegotiate a single item or portion of the contract without renegotiating the entire contract, because it would benefit both parties. It happens all the time in the business world.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:58 PM

I should have been more clear. I didn't mean for one side to unilaterally modify the contract (which would definitely void the contract). By "modify the contract" I meant when both companies agree to renegotiate a single item or portion of the contract without renegotiating the entire contract, because it would benefit both parties. It happens all the time in the business world.


In some portions of the business world, yes.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:59 PM

... HD Sports. That's why I have DTV, that's what I care about


And DirecTv loves you and your wallet. Since you already have just about every sports channel known to man, and some that must have been put on the air just to get $$$ from DirecTv, perhaps it is time for some of those non-sports channel add ons. E! is a start. Wouldnt have been my first, of even 8th choice, but its a start.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:22 PM

I think its funny how people are mad they added a new channel in HD but not the one they watch. Did it ever cross your mind that you didnt watch that channel because it was in SD??

You would be surprised at how many people would watch DIY, military channel, G4 if they were in HD
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