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HBO & composite cables


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#1 OFFLINE   horace clark

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:40 AM

SD tv in garage connected to hr20 via composite cables. Press and hold exit button to watch tv. No problem until today trying to watch HBO. Get message that the program is content protected. I can view every other channel except HBO. This wasn't the case last week. Something new?

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#2 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:02 AM

SD tv in garage connected to hr20 via composite cables. Press and hold exit button to watch tv. No problem until today trying to watch HBO. Get message that the program is content protected. I can view every other channel except HBO. This wasn't the case last week. Something new?


My composite is working for hbo. Just checked. HR21 and H24.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:12 AM

Mine is working as well as can be expected also. Someone else posted on another thread about component and HBO. You might try restarting your DVR.
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#4 OFFLINE   horace clark

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:43 AM

Just did a reboot. Still get the same message.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:06 PM

I've checked both my HR20's and they work fine. What software version is yours on.
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#6 OFFLINE   horace clark

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:41 PM

I've checked both my HR20's and they work fine. What software version is yours on.


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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:55 PM

HBO pushing to "analog sunset" starting from composite analog output... :(

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:56 PM

Noticed something strange this week also regarding HBO. Although my Sony is connected via HDMI I get the message that my "set is not compatible with....."displayed too briefly to read in its entirety. It is displayed when changing between HBO channels. Same TV, same HR20 for nearly six years, never a problem prior to this.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:06 PM

Turn on the TV that the HDMI cable is connected to, or if the cable is just hanging on the back of the IRD, remove it and things should work. The ird can't confirm that the device that the HDMI cable is plugged into is a HDCP compliant TV and that's what the error is about.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:12 PM

hanging HDMI cable has same HW 'value' as HDMI slot itself - so, it is not a factor here

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:22 PM

Looking at some tech tips on a DirecTv site it appears that they have introduced HDCP content protection on the premium movie channels this month. It should only affect older model HDTV's that aren't HDCP compliant connected via HDMI. The work around is to use component cables and to remove the HDMI cable.

Why would this be affecting your composite connected TV. Who Knows!

Try disconnecting the HDMI cable from the back of your HR20.

"Analog sunset" doesn't apply to cable and satellite STB's, I don't think.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:40 PM

hbo and cinemax just enabled hdcp....showtime and starz to follow
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:56 PM

HBO is changing, adding copywrite protection to its channels. It's supposed to be something that only effects HDMI connections to tvs that are too old to have proper HDCP protection, but this could conceivably affect other types of connections. HBO and Cinemax just started doing this and Starz and Showtime are slated to follow later this month. Other channels may follow, at the digression of their owners.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:59 PM

Do you have another TV connected to the same receiver?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:07 PM

Looking at some tech tips on a DirecTv site it appears that they have introduced HDCP content protection on the premium movie channels this month. It should only affect older model HDTV's that aren't HDCP compliant connected via HDMI. The work around is to use component cables and to remove the HDMI cable.

Why would this be affecting your composite connected TV. Who Knows!


With HDMI and composite connected the receiver is expecting an HDMI handshake that his HDCP compliant. If the TV hooked up via HDMI is not turned on that handshake won't happen.

"Analog sunset" doesn't apply to cable and satellite STB's, I don't think.


It does.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:33 PM

With HDMI and composite connected the receiver is expecting an HDMI handshake that his HDCP compliant. If the TV hooked up via HDMI is not turned on that handshake won't happen.



It does.


Well thats an easy fix.


I am open to education, I googled and it mostly concerned bluerays with exclusions for STB's. Links would be good. TIA.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:38 PM

I am open to education, I googled and it mostly concerned bluerays with exclusions for STB's. Links would be good. TIA.


Search this site. There was a lengthy thread on it quite a while back.
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:19 PM

After reading this thread, I thought I'd check the TVs on my system. I have one TV that is being fed its signal from the DIRECTV box via a MyWirelessTV wireless transmitter. When I tune that TV to HBO, I get the non-HDCP compliant message. I know that the TV is, in fact, HDCP compliant, and, if I connect the TV directly to a DIRECTV receiver, HBO shows fine. Thus, it would seem that something related to the wireless transmitter is the cause of the signal being blocked.

If anybody can suggest a workaround that will allow me to continue to use the wireless transmitter, I'd appreciate it. The wireless transmitter has only HDMI ports on both the receiver and the transmitter. My first thought is to try to replace the HDMI cable going from the DIRECTV box to the wireless transmitter with a component to HDMI cable coming from the component outputs of the DIRECTV box to the HDMI port on the transmitter, but, before I spend the money on the cable, it would be nice to know if it has a chance of working.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:52 PM

Call your transmitter manufacturer and complain - perhaps they would make new FW for it with non-revoked key.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:00 PM

Search this site. There was a lengthy thread on it quite a while back.


Thanks I searched, "analog sunset" "RunnerFL" "The Merq" and "Earl Bonovich" I didnt get any hits, everything else was mere speculation. I'll roll with what I read on the FCC Website.;)
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