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#51 OFFLINE   Rich

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 08:01 AM

I just bought a Sammy e6500 from Amazon. I tried two Sammy d6500s and they didn't work, but this is supposed to be the best one and I just gotta see if it works. Should have it Saturday, I'll post then.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:39 AM

I just bought a Sammy e6500 from Amazon. I tried two Sammy d6500s and they didn't work, but this is supposed to be the best one and I just gotta see if it works. Should have it Saturday, I'll post then.

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Rich, when you post could you check a couple things?

Does it have front usb and does it play "avi" files ?

Does it upconvert regular DVD's ?

Does it connect to internet, if so, wired,wireless,or both?

Thanks:)
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 12:10 PM

Rich, when you post could you check a couple things?

Does it have front usb and does it play "avi" files ?

Does it upconvert regular DVD's ?

Does it connect to internet, if so, wired,wireless,or both?

Thanks:)
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I'm a bit leery about this BD player. I know it's both wireless and wire capable, I know it upscales standard DVDs, but I don't know if it upscales as my three Sammys do to 1080/60p. If it only upscales to 720p, as one reviewer on Amazon (who I don't believe) reports, the thing's going straight back.

I'll post about the other things you asked about when I get it running, if I can.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:01 AM

Just read a review on Amazon that said the Sammy e6500 only upscales standard DVDs to 720p. Not sure I believe that, but I was gonna buy one today and now I'm kinda hesitant again.

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Since Samsung stopped using the Silicon Optics chip and started using their own. The PQ has gone to sh!t. Got LG! And don't look back. Now for monitors, and that's displays only, that's Samsung.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:48 AM

Since Samsung stopped using the Silicon Optics chip and started using their own. The PQ has gone to sh!t. Got LG! And don't look back. Now for monitors, and that's displays only, that's Samsung.


Perhaps I'll try one of the LGs if this e6500 doesn't work as well (at least) as my other three Sammys. Those three Sammys are three years old. When did Sammy stop using the Silicon Optics chip?

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:45 AM

Since Samsung stopped using the Silicon Optics chip and started using their own. The PQ has gone to sh!t. Got LG! And don't look back. Now for monitors, and that's displays only, that's Samsung.


Personal observation, or cites, please?
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:05 PM

OK, it was delivered a bit ago and I've got it set up. Checked NetFlix and its being upscaled to 1080p/60, so that reviewer on Amazon was wrong. It does play avi and is both wired and wireless. I set it up for wired. It does have a USB connection on the front panel in a door.

Haven't tried to upscale a DVD yet...huh, no door, just insert the disc as you do in a car...OK, it's upscaling a standard DVD to 1080p/60...PQ is good, sound is good, looks like a keeper...so far.

The remote is smaller than my other Sammy remotes and not backlit...at least you can tell the front from the back, can't do that on the other Sammy remotes. Lotta buttons for a small remote, but not as bad as I thought it would be from the reviews.

I'll post with any problems, but this looks a whole lot better than the d6500s.

Questions? Feel free to ask.

@Drew: No replay button.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:52 PM

Sounds good!

Re the lack of lighted remote- I can usually squint to see the buttons to operate it, but unless I am doing something special, I just use the remote from the Sammy plasma.

I do hope we hear more about the PQ from CO.
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Posted 09 June 2012 - 07:01 PM

OK, it was delivered a bit ago and I've got it set up. Checked NetFlix and its being upscaled to 1080p/60, so that reviewer on Amazon was wrong. It does play avi and is both wired and wireless. I set it up for wired. It does have a USB connection on the front panel in a door.

Haven't tried to upscale a DVD yet...huh, no door, just insert the disc as you do in a car...OK, it's upscaling a standard DVD to 1080p/60...PQ is good, sound is good, looks like a keeper...so far.

The remote is smaller than my other Sammy remotes and not backlit...at least you can tell the front from the back, can't do that on the other Sammy remotes. Lotta buttons for a small remote, but not as bad as I thought it would be from the reviews.

I'll post with any problems, but this looks a whole lot better than the d6500s.

Questions? Feel free to ask.

@Drew: No replay button.

Rich


Thanks Rich

Would you say PQ on this one is as good if not better that your older ones? I know you were impressed with th PQ on the others as we had a similar conversion some time back, as I also have a "tempermental" sammy, but PQ on AVI movies are quite good.

chris

By the way, what's the difference between 'replay" and the back button?

Edited by satcrazy, 09 June 2012 - 07:07 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2012 - 08:33 AM

Thanks Rich

Would you say PQ on this one is as good if not better that your older ones? I know you were impressed with th PQ on the others as we had a similar conversion some time back, as I also have a "tempermental" sammy, but PQ on AVI movies are quite good.


About the same PQ, but this e6500 appears to be a bit better on the software and hardware. It connected immediately to my home network, something two d6500s and a d5700 couldn't do.

By the way, what's the difference between 'replay" and the back button?


When Drew started this thread, I was a bit confused about that too. Seems like he's looking for a button much like the 8 second back button on the D* remotes. Haven't seen any BD players that do that. My "smart" Panny plasma has an interesting NetFlix application on it that does allow for incremental "backs", instead of just putting the film in reverse and running at whatever speed you set it at, it jumps backward one time, mimicking the back button on the D* remotes. Nice, but the PQ isn't the equal of any of my Sammy BD players.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:06 AM

When Drew started this thread, I was a bit confused about that too. Seems like he's looking for a button much like the 8 second back button on the D* remotes. Haven't seen any BD players that do that. My "smart" Panny plasma has an interesting NetFlix application on it that does allow for incremental "backs", instead of just putting the film in reverse and running at whatever speed you set it at, it jumps backward one time, mimicking the back button on the D* remotes. Nice, but the PQ isn't the equal of any of my Sammy BD players.

Rich

I mentioned it earlier in the thread that Sony has it, but this is definitely rare on DVD and BD remotes. For streaming media, Roku has Instant Replay as well. I think (hope, really) this is something more devices will support, as folks are used to this ability from DVRs.

I have the Sony BDPS550 BD player and it includes the traditional Chapter Prev and Chapter Next buttons, but also includes REPLAY and ADVANCE buttons, which jumps back about 10 seconds and forward about 30 seconds during playback, working just like counterparts on DVRs. I never use ADVANCE, but I use REPLAY often.

The keys are in the center of the remote just above the PLAY button.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:12 PM

Talk about some very worthless reviews on that e6500. Rich when you're done you should write a review there so there's something actually worth reading.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:23 AM

My Sony BDP-S1700ES has the Replay and Advance option. Nice features. Wonders whe Sony didn't include them on the BDP-S780?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 12:50 PM

Talk about some very worthless reviews on that e6500. Rich when you're done you should write a review there so there's something actually worth reading.


Done, here's the link. I use "rich584" when I write reviews and sign them "Rich".

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 12:51 PM

My Sony BDP-S1700ES has the Replay and Advance option. Nice features. Wonders whe Sony didn't include them on the BDP-S780?


I gotta wonder why the Sammys don't have it, but I can usually work around that. Would be nice to see that feature become more prevalent on all devices.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:31 AM

Done, here's the link. I use "rich584" when I write reviews and sign them "Rich".

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Well your review convinced me I'm going to try it out. 3d BR is the only thing I never upgraded to but with almost more 3D movies than I have non 3D I can do it without feeling the need to go buy more movies.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 12:33 PM

Well your review convinced me I'm going to try it out. 3d BR is the only thing I never upgraded to but with almost more 3D movies than I have non 3D I can do it without feeling the need to go buy more movies.


If you do buy one and it doesn't work immediately, send it right back and get another one. Amazon's got them for $177, which is a bit much, but if it works it will be worth the price. Don't even try Samsung tech support, they'll end up telling you to get another one. Apparently there are still bad units out there. Can't believe I got one that worked.

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 11:39 AM

Well, it's been ten days with the new e6500 and I have very few complaints. The remote, while much smaller, is actually easier to use and sends its commands much better than my older Sammys. You don't have to point the remote directly at the set.

BD discs take a bit longer to load, but I've not had any problem loading BDs or standard DVDs such as I constantly have with my three c5500s. The PQ is the same as the c5500s. I like the progress bar on the c5500s better. The NetFlix button takes forever to load, nice to have it on the remote, but it's quicker to go to the hub and get on NetFlix there.

The Internet browser sux. Expected that. All in all, it's not as "glitchy" as my c5500s. In fact, it's not glitchy at all, I didn't expect that. I like it.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:34 AM

To make things even better, the e6500 downloaded an update that now allows it to play streaming NetFlix content in 5.1 sound! Not sure if all or just some of the NF is in 5.1, but last season's The Killings is.

Just gets better and better, so I bought another one.

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Edited by Rich, 10 July 2012 - 02:19 PM.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 09:22 PM

To make things even better, the e6500 downloaded an update that now allows it to play streaming NetFlix content in 5.1 sound! Not sure if all or just some of the NF is in 5.1, but last season's The Killings is.

Just gets better and better, so I bought another one.

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OK
really looking for another dvd player, and you've posted plenty, the one thing that I really need to know is what video formats will it play back on the USB drive, as I download alot and play back on my usb drive in my dvd player hooked to my plasma. My Sammy is limited, and so far have been lucky with AVI files, but I notice alot of MKV and MP4 files now which it will not play. Converting them takes too long.
So would you be so kind as to list the video formats the USB drive will play back in the e6500?

Thanks Rich

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:35 AM

OK
really looking for another dvd player, and you've posted plenty, the one thing that I really need to know is what video formats will it play back on the USB drive, as I download alot and play back on my usb drive in my dvd player hooked to my plasma. My Sammy is limited, and so far have been lucky with AVI files, but I notice alot of MKV and MP4 files now which it will not play. Converting them takes too long.
So would you be so kind as to list the video formats the USB drive will play back in the e6500?

Thanks Rich


I went to the Sammy website and got nowhere looking for that info. Fortunately, I took a new Sammy e6500 to the beach with us and I have the manual. Let me look...found a list of file extensions and MKV and MP4 are supported, but also found this note: "Some MKV and MP4 format discs may not play, depending on their video resolution and frame rate".

Here's that list:

AVI
MKV
ASF
MP4
3GP
VRO
VOB
PS
TB

That's pretty much all the manual has to say about what you're concerned with. I will say the e6500 is a much better player than the three c5500s I have. The remote (which could be a bit larger) is much better than the remotes for the c5500s.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 09:31 PM

Thanks again for taking the time, Rich.

That is a big help to me.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 06:16 AM

Thanks again for taking the time, Rich.

That is a big help to me.

chris


You're welcome Chris. I'd still be wary of the Samsungs, if you buy one and have the least little bit of trouble connecting or playing discs, send it back immediately. It took many updates to fix almost all the glitches on my three 2 year old c5500s and they still have problems with NetFlix DVDs. Haven't had a problem with one NF disc on my e6500.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 08:34 PM

I'm back.

Been preoccupied with other things, back to the bd thing. after some further research [ media players, bd dvd w/ usb] I came across this.

http://www.cinavia.c...s/message3.html.

Have since found out Sony started this with xbox, continued with BD players, and apparently netgear media players also have this. It supposedly will be incorperated into many others [ players] as well, starting earlier this year. Could be a big problem unless everything [ media] is store-bought.

So, is your e6500 manufactured in 2011 or 2012?


Still happy with it?
thanks rich.

Edited by satcrazy, 16 August 2012 - 10:59 AM.


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Posted 16 August 2012 - 11:23 AM

I'm back.

Been preoccupied with other things, back to the bd thing. after some further research [ media players, bd dvd w/ usb] I came across this.

http://www.cinavia.c...s/message3.html.

Have since found out Sony started this with xbox, continued with BD players, and apparently netgear media players also have this. It supposedly will be incorperated into many others [ players] as well, starting earlier this year. Could be a big problem unless everything [ media] is store-bought.

So, is your e6500 manufactured in 2011 or 2012?


Still happy with it?
thanks rich.


Still happy. Don't know when they were manufactured...2012, just checked. I don't play anything except NetFlix content on them.

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